posted July 26, 2012 12:37 AM            

I see a big difference. One has genuine and pure motives and one simply wants to look good. This is her trying to look good on a grand scale.

I don't equate what mother teresa did with what angelina would do. I don't think a person, who lives a life of purity, honor and dignity would have to ever be put on the same platform as someone who seeks only attention.

Have you noticed a trend of actresses adopting children who are black? Why? Do you think that there is a partially convulted story of ego, fast and easy praise? What about the millions of kids in our foster homes that are beat daily, starved, put into closets, maimed? What about those kids? Can they not help the children at their front gate? What about all those children with mental retardation in orphanages? Did they simply miss them on their walk over to other side of the world? What about those black children in the system being tossed from one family to another? What about their rape, molestation, abuse? Who will "save" those kids?

Basically going to a third world nation bringing a child home is publicity. Short, sweet and the dividend is high.

And so what if she made mistakes in relationships, and her sexual business has nothing to do with all the good she does for others. No one is perfect. I know I am not, by any stretch of the imagination..and I'm willing to bet you aren't either. But aren't we here in order to learn and grow and help those in need?

Are you trying to imply that I have sullied my hands by betraying someone I love? Because to clear it up for you I would never in my wildest imagination be able to live through that sort of guilt and pain. I would never put someone I love through that. It's much much beneath me.

Yes, we are here to learn and grow. So then does murder get a free ticket? I mean, since we are all human. It's ok. We should learn and grow from it? What about stealing from someone? How about molesting children? What if we can research and explore the deeper dimensions of it? Is it then ok to do so?

Yes we are here to learn. If I meet a cheater that is soulfully sorrowful about it then maybe I'll look at it differently. I still would never put that person on a pedestal.

I take the whole person into account before deciding how I feel about them. But if there was a sorrowful murderer, tell me what would you do? Would you absolve them of everything? What about the repercussions of their actions on the lives of all those their actions touched? What about the victims family, what about their family, what about the children who wake up with nightmares, what about those copycat murderers that praise that person and try to take it a notch further?

Yes we are here to learn but some lessons need no explanation. Some limits ought not to be crossed. It's easy to cry and whine about the regret of something; it's another thing to have been strong enough never to have done it.

I put these examples before you to allow you to think about how our actions have consequences. Murder, abuse, suffering, pain , sorrow are things that one should never put upon some innocent person.

Anyway, i'm curious, by your posts towards cheaters, does the hate come from having been cheated on yourself? or a parent/close friend/family member having had experienced it? asking in an unemotionally detached, yet genuinely curious for deeper insight way (gemini moon in 1st)

Yes, I've seen it numerous times. I've seen the repercussions of that silly little act.
While her life moves on with the next movie. They wife is betrayed deeply. Whil she be able to trust and love again? What about the children? Who will sit there and answer all the tough questions? How will they react to their mother's torment. Even if the mother tries to hide it, the children still see through the fake smiles. Will they have healthy relationships?

Also, I am a true romantic. I take love very seriously. I don't think there is anything in this world without it. I'm not speaking of romantic love alone.

But just as I hate seeng a mother abuse her child, I hate seeing cheaters get away.
Why? Because just as the mother made a promise to the child she brought into this world with the basic gift of love, if she then abuses, neglects her child. I can't think anything more devestating and spineless. If you can't be true and pure in love, then what really can you be true and pure in? If you can betray, torment forget the person you love, what then are you capable of doing? What lines can you then cross? Just as I see a serial killer, a neglectful mother, a sociopath, psychopath, with little empathy and presence of mind, I see a cheater.

If in love you can't be trusted, then in nothing else can you be trusted.

posted July 26, 2012 12:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Beautiful Disaster:

Wow honey you need to calm down. You are all over this post like if you were the wife that was cheated on. Chill out. Is it affecting you that much that you're ripping your hair out? yes I said I am not gonna judge kristen. she's still a kid and is gonna make mistakes. He is an old fart and should have known better. I am sure you didn't like her before any of this happened so you probably have some type of hate towards her regardless.

She may be a tom boy or lesbo and may have messed around with a married man but she is very pretty and lots of jealous girls out there hate her for that even before any of this came out.

No ones hands are clean sorry. You're gonna tell me you have never lied or been mean to someone? oh pleaseeee.

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Yeah doll, I dislike bs. Sorry. I have a low tolerance level for nonsense.

I was simply pointing out how hypocritical you sound. If you can judge one person because you like the way she looks or perhaps wish you looked like her. Please really? So if a person looks decent in your eyes it's ok to excuse them? Then why are you hating on rupert? What are you riding your high horse about not being judgemental when you judge just as much as the next person.

Did you just jump the gun and assume I was jealous of her looks? Um like hell I am. Why did you judge me then? hmm? Yeah, so I thought. Are you trying to imply I don't look good without ever having seen me? Yeah non-judgemental diva judges. Shocker.

Fact is she's not good looking even if she has a huge makeup team running behind her trying ot force it. There are prettier girls living in huts that would make you and all those saying she's pretty run.

posted July 26, 2012 12:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Beautiful Disaster:
LOL make it more obvious you are jealous. Almost all the women you mentioned have nice faces. Just admit it already.

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You sound extremely foolish.

I'm sorry I have to ask, how old are you?

posted July 26, 2012 12:49 AM            

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Originally posted by awakemer:
Just because she finds those people having bad vibes and they coincidently are beautiful, does not mean she is jealous.. maybe she is but there is no proof.. who cares if she is jealous anyway? lets talk astrology please.. forget about the drama.

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posted July 26, 2012 01:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
But we keep dissecting Kristen. I would love to get a look
at Rupert's chart, since he is the other part of the
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No dob for him (checked Wikipedia and IMDb)
On my phone,so I can't run his site,but I suppose there is nothing,otherwise Wikipedia would use it as source.

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Originally posted by AriesKat:
Its a shame woman are always tearing other woman apart and giving men a pass. What about Rupert, I have yet to see somone tear him apart and further more how do we know this is even true?

I like Kirsten and Rob and I hope this rumour is false and they do make it work.

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Shame.
But,we are the one who set the boundaries,and quite frankly rule from behind the scene. We also should know better.
There is of course certain pettiness and vain in abundance when the wife enters the arena with the mistress. That's womanly pride.

posted July 26, 2012 01:08 AM            

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Originally posted by sexyaqua30:
CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR!

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posted July 26, 2012 01:15 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Yeah,reckless.

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posted July 26, 2012 01:20 AM            

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Originally posted by sexyaqua30:
I'm very intuitive I always felt she wanted to be mysterious like Johnny Depp but make people gasp like Angelina Jolie in her hay day. It was only a matter time. If this is not what she intended she sure as hell wished bad karma upon herself.

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posted July 26, 2012 01:27 AM            

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Originally posted by sexyaqua30:
CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR!

Just last month, Kristen told Elle US magazine that she craved something 'crazy' to happen. In the interview, she said life was 'so easy' for her and instead she wanted to be 'f**ked over'. She said: 'You can learn so much from bad things. I feel boring. 'I feel like, "Why is everything so easy for me?" 'I can't wait for something crazy to f**king happen to me. Just life. 'I want someone to f**k me over! Do you know what I mean?'

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posted July 26, 2012 01:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
Indeed. Well she is due for some serious excitement. [b]T-Pluto is on her n-Uranus I've had this and was major drama and upheaval. Uranus rules her 8H - any surprises here? More drama to come from 2013/4 when Pluto and Uranus start to rock her Libra Moon and later Aries Sun. Not that DC and Neptune wouldn't also do. And Uranus is transiting her 10H, I suspect it will only get weirder and weirder. [/B]

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posted July 26, 2012 02:07 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
No dob for him (checked Wikipedia and IMDb)
On my phone,so I can't run his site,but I suppose there is nothing,otherwise Wikipedia would use it as source.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by AriesKat:
[b]Its a shame woman are always tearing other woman apart and giving men a pass. What about Rupert, I have yet to see somone tear him apart and further more how do we know this is even true?

I like Kirsten and Rob and I hope this rumour is false and they do make it work.

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Shame.
But,we are the one who set the boundaries,and quite frankly rule from behind the scene. We also should know better.
There is of course certain pettiness and vain in abundance when the wife enters the arena with the mistress. That's womanly pride.

Not false,she admitted to it. [/B][/QUOTE]

She said it out her mouth? Well in that case Im wrong.

posted July 26, 2012 02:29 AM            

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Originally posted by sexyaqua30:
CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR!

Just last month, Kristen told Elle US magazine that she craved something 'crazy' to happen. In the interview, she said life was 'so easy' for her and instead she wanted to be 'f**ked over'. She said: 'You can learn so much from bad things. I feel boring. 'I feel like, "Why is everything so easy for me?" 'I can't wait for something crazy to f**king happen to me. Just life. 'I want someone to f**k me over! Do you know what I mean?'

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What an ungrateful brat!! With her bad attitude, she should be happy she's cast at all. I wonder if its her Pluto in the 5th keeping her above water. Regardless, I'm sure it wont turn out pretty with the way her Neptune is aspecterd (also being ruler of her MC), and it will happen with the world watching.

Apart from the major Neptune action, she has sun semi-square Venus probably contributing to her awkwardness AND its a common aspect among ppl who cheat.

posted July 26, 2012 03:49 AM            

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until she was a lil gnat on the screen next to my precious Charlize in Snow White and the Huntsman.

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Omg I love Charlize Theron! She's one of the actors who'd entice me into seeing a movie just because of her casting. Did you watch Prometheus? Michael Fassbender is in it too, and with Charlize, I was there in a heartbeat! Ngl I'd see a movie if Kristen Stewart was in it.

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I find her phoney and bit of a goner,just no life in her,like strength or passion.

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I like that about her, I dunno why. I think she's cool!

posted July 26, 2012 04:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
I see a big difference. One has genuine and pure motives and one simply wants to look good. This is her trying to look good on a grand scale.

I don't equate what mother teresa did with what angelina would do. I don't think a person, who lives a life of purity, honor and dignity would have to ever be put on the same platform as someone who seeks only attention.

Have you noticed a trend of actresses adopting children who are black? Why? Do you think that there is a partially convulted story of ego, fast and easy praise? What about the millions of kids in our foster homes that are beat daily, starved, put into closets, maimed? What about those kids? Can they not help the children at their front gate? What about all those children with mental retardation in orphanages? Did they simply miss them on their walk over to other side of the world? What about those black children in the system being tossed from one family to another? What about their rape, molestation, abuse? Who will "save" those kids?

Basically going to a third world nation bringing a child home is publicity. Short, sweet and the dividend is high.

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Also, I am a true romantic. I take love very seriously. I don't think there is anything in this world without it. I'm not speaking of romantic love alone.

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If in love you can't be trusted, then in nothing else can you be trusted.

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To be fair, Mother Teresa did have a darker side. No human being is perfect.

As for adopting internationally from Africa, or even Asia, remember how hard it is to adopt domestically in the US. It is easier to adopt from other countries. There is so much red tape and expense in the US. On top of that, birth mothers can take their kids away from adopted parents if they change their mind (at least up to a certain point), and there are also things like "open" adoptions in which the birth parents know and see their kids, which creates a lot of confusion and tension for the child, as well as the adoptive parents. International adoptions have more of a clear boundary, it seems.

Plus, people do have the right to decide what kind of child would be best for their family, if they're adopting. Frankly, not everyone can handle mental retardation/autism and other issues. There are some kids, too, that are outright evil: the type who set fires, are violent, and are a danger and threat to others in the family--you hear about it a lot with Eastern European adoptions, especially Russia, but it can happen in the US, too. It happens a lot with abused kids and also those who've had fetal alcohol syndrome. They are turned into monsters due to their early environment, and this cannot always be changed: sometimes, it really is too late Autistic kids (and I'm talking only about real, actual autistics, not Asperger's which is NOT the same as autism) are often violent and can be so without warning--some of them are very strong, too. I don't feel that people should be pressured to adopt those kinds of kids, especially if they can cause harm to the existing family and terrorize them and ruin their lives. Those types of kids may need to be sent away and receive specialized treatment and care that parents/a family cannot provide, maybe even be institutionalized: it's not as simple as every kid being suitable for adoption or a family environment. It isn't as simple as "save the children". Some of them cannot be saved and need, as I said, to be in an institution, and that's just honest reality. Some of their problems are just too severe and serious, and love cannot fix everything. Some things, yes, but not all.

It's one reason of many why I myself don't want kids: I know that I could not deal with that. They are not bad people for being unable to deal with those things. It takes a certain kind of person to be able to deal with that situation. And sometimes, people don't know that their kid will have issues--you cannot prentally test for some things in the case of biological children, and in with adopted children, sometimes adoption agencies don't tell adoptive parents about problems, and they don't find out until after the kid is adopted.

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I do agree with you, though, about how important it is to be faithful. While I do believe that some cheaters can genuinely reform and go on to be faithful in future relationships, it is a very destructive act--personally, I do not believe in taking a cheater back. I like what you say about, "If in love you can't be trusted, then in nothing else can you be trusted."

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posted July 26, 2012 05:15 AM            

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Originally posted by awakemer:
Well there are exceptions of course!! I Have some capricorn i'm very warm... it depends sorry no offense.

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posted July 26, 2012 11:03 AM            

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Originally posted by sexyaqua30:

I see a public relationship with a woman in her near future or atleast a lot of speculation with pictures suggesting it. She's still young so I say enjoy yourself, sow your wildoats but stay away from married men/women.

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posted July 26, 2012 01:30 PM            

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Kirstens teeth[/B]

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posted July 26, 2012 02:29 PM            

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Originally posted by awakemer:
where does that show in her chart?? I totally agree. its like no soul.

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posted July 26, 2012 02:42 PM            

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Originally posted by vickymadness:
I think it's the libra moon, I met three people with different suns but all got their moon in libra... very cold and soulless people

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Wow, I would never describe myself as soulless (nor all the other Libra Moons that visit this forum) but thanks.