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Topic: Are Sagittarius people generally condescending people?
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RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
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posted August 08, 2012 05:20 PM
  
My mom is like that. She's a Sag. Honestly, they're just mouthy most of the time. They don't think before they speak. Aries can be that way too, but Sag is really known for that. They're not really malicious--the really bad Sags, yeah, but the average archer, no. They just tell it as they see it. They think that being honest is a good thing, so they don't feel like they are doing anything wrong. Tact is not one of their strong suits. IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted August 08, 2012 05:29 PM
In general, not the Sagittarius people I know.  IP: Logged |
Blind writer
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posted August 08, 2012 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
In general, not the Sagittarius people I know.
You are likely drawn to the Sagittarians who have a Scorpio Mercury. The worst offenders seem to be the ones with a Sag Sun-Merc. Not only is Sag itself lending its energy, but Mercury is often also "burnt out" by its proximity to the Sun. Those with Mercury in Scorpio can practice tact, and those with a Cap Mercury will tend to withhold their opinion to begin with. IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted August 08, 2012 05:40 PM
^That would make sense, but one of my bffsies has Sagittarius Sun + Mercury and she's pretty tactful. Perhaps rising has to do with it? My friend has a Gemini rising and I find them to be pretty mindful of others.IP: Logged |
Blind writer
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posted August 08, 2012 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
^That would make sense, but one of my bffsies has Sagittarius Sun + Mercury and she's pretty tactful. Perhaps rising has to do with it? My friend has a Gemini rising and I find them to be pretty mindful of others.
Possible, but I'd recommend also checking out her Saturn, and seeing how it aspects Mercury. Also, 3H cusp and its ruler. IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted August 08, 2012 05:46 PM
Oh, well whataya know! Saturn square Mercury, Third House ruled by the Moon!IP: Logged |
Blind writer
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posted August 08, 2012 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Oh, well whataya know! Saturn square Mercury, Third House ruled by the Moon!
Bingo.  IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted August 08, 2012 05:53 PM
I've never met a Sag who didn't have a big mouth, regardless of the position of Mercury.They're a handful, definitely not for everyone. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted August 08, 2012 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by Venus:
he throws comments like "what is this stpidity" or "what kind of trash is this" or the most popular "it's not rocket science"!!!!
That reminds me of an Aries I know more than Sag. (Btw, perhaps I'm being too pedantic but I don't see those examples as condescending. Condescending is more like treating someone like a child or gullible idiot, like say if your boss was to adjust the clothes of his employees for them, you know like straightening out a tie, or instead of calling someone stupid saying something like, "You'll learn.") That said, Sags can be very blunt, and can be impatient, but I don't think they mean to be rude. I have a lot of Sag energy and can be blunt, but I don't mean to be rude ('course some think I am at times, though the way I see it I'm not treating someone like a fragile china doll which would be the real insult). I also have a lot of Libra energy so maybe that keeps me from a habit of saying (even when I think it), "It's not rocket science" or "what is this stupidity." But my partner gets impatient with stupidity at times and sometimes lets everyone knows it, similar to your boss. I think her Scorp Mars contributes a lot to that as she can hold grudges, so she can be sharp tongued if a person repeatedly acts in some way that she finds distressing or frustrating, and her Sag sun can make her quite blunt (as well as biting) about expressing her anger and sometimes contempt. Her Cancer moon seems to offset that somewhat, at least with family, but also means that she has a hard time taking what she dishes out which leads to resentment and a vicious circle with some people. But other Sags I know simply have far too much of a sense of humor to get easily frustrated with people (even if their humor can be too blunt at times and at someone else's expense, though it's not meant to be mean). IP: Logged |
awakemer
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posted August 08, 2012 08:19 PM
I believe that a lot of sags feel they NEED to tell the truth even if they know it might hurt you.. they don't get it.. and sometimes I do agree with them unless its just a blunt remark that is TOTALLY unnecessary, I do find a lot of them lacking sensitivity and empathy. I also don't get it when they DO say something that is true but might be hurtful to another person and they have no reserveration in saying this.. to me that is a lack of emapthy.. people who have empathy know what it feels like to be in the person's shoes and so saying something hurtful BUT true would give most people some hesitation.. but not to most sags.. at least not from my experience. I have one gf who's a sag but she has cancer rising.. and i think that is what gives her the empathy. THe others i've known had a lot of Scorpio and sag planets.. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted August 08, 2012 08:38 PM
At least in my case I can take what I dish out (that is to say being honest as opposed to being mean, at least from MY perspective). I normally don't call anyone stupid (and usually feel bad the rare times I do) and can become pretty cold with someone who speaks with me that way (though I recognize people have bad days). But if someone put on something hideous I'll tell them, especially if they ask, and I appreciate the same in return. I don't take offense easily and I see it as helping me out. That is tell me I'm wearing something hideous and I'll be grateful for the input, and would take offense if someone treated me like a fragile china doll by saying, "Oh, that looks good on you" just to "spare my feelings" (and let me go out looking hideous) and wouldn't likely ask them again because I wouldn't trust them to be honest with me. IP: Logged |
inthemisosoup
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posted August 09, 2012 12:52 AM
I am Sag with Scorp merc and i still definitely have foot-in-mouth syndrome from time to time. I think i just know how to keep secrets better than sags with sag merc, and definitely talk less. but it doesn't stop me from saying the wrong things from time to time. given that my merc is in the 9th, that may alter it somewhat. the only aspect it makes is trine my moon; so i am sensitive to people's emotions and how my words affect them . . . but often after the fact. i have a lot of pisces in my chart and am super empathetic, so i do definitely feel bad when i hurt someone's feelings with my words and try to make up for it. but often times i feel we saggis come from elsewhere . . . our ideas of "making people feel better" or trying to help someone are just freaking weird! case in point: my mom had horrible morning breath. one morning she tried to give me a good morning kiss or hug and i said "ew mom you smell nasty! your breath is rank!! did you brush your teeth?! brush your teeth and you can say good morning yuck!!" she was obviously hurt, and i realized that, but instead of apologizing the way a normal person would, i said "i don't get it mom, wouldn't you rather i tell you your breath stinks??? if family can't tell you the truth who will??! Would you rather have all of your coworkers smell you and then talk about how you have horrible halitosis behind your back? hmmmm???? it's better i tell you the truth, right???1" See . . . we certainly don't know when to stfu. We think we're being helpful for some odd reason, we really truly do. I didn't understand why she wouldn't want me to tell her about her bad breath. IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted August 09, 2012 01:13 AM
^Scorpio in general can/is mean, concerning their words. IP: Logged |
awakemer
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posted August 09, 2012 01:17 AM
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
At least in my case I can take what I dish out (that is to say being honest as opposed to being mean, at least from MY perspective). I normally don't call anyone stupid (and usually feel bad the rare times I do) and can become pretty cold with someone who speaks with me that way (though I recognize people have bad days). But if someone put on something hideous I'll tell them, especially if they ask, and I appreciate the same in return. I don't take offense easily and I see it as helping me out. That is tell me I'm wearing something hideous and I'll be grateful for the input, and would take offense if someone treated me like a fragile china doll by saying, "Oh, that looks good on you" just to "spare my feelings" (and let me go out looking hideous) and wouldn't likely ask them again because I wouldn't trust them to be honest with me.
Yeah I agree with that but that's not really being blunt, that's just being hones in a normal tactful way. I'll give you an example. my guy friend has moon in sag. I was with my girlfriends and he was there hanging out in the living room.. I told my gf's that i really don't have pretty feet so i don't really like to show them off.. i pointed out the flaws in my feet. I really do not have pretty feet! i guess its all a matter of opinion but i don't find them attractive at all. (huge wide and curved very long toes) my gf's were saying how they are nice and blah blah which they were just saying to make me feel better and i know they didn't really mean it.. my moon in sag guy friend was like " well i they do curve this way and they look really weird" was that really necessary? I feel that sags NEED To tell the truth and if they hear someone lie they can't stand it and they have to be blunt about it.. its just an immature sag thing. I find him telling those thins really unnecessary but that's just me ( i have leo sun and moon) IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted August 09, 2012 01:27 AM
Sags are naturally blunt. They have no filter. It's a very well known fact. I also find when you call them out on being rude in the same biting way, they can become emotional (re: cry) quite quickly. I don't know if this is a manipulation tactic or genuine. Other takes on it?IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 09, 2012 01:38 AM
My Sagittarius energy is what got me through elementary, middle and high school in one piece (!) I love it (!)
Never thought it was strong in my chart but I've since found out otherwise o yea ::rubshandstogether::IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
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posted August 09, 2012 05:00 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Sags are naturally blunt. They have no filter. It's a very well known fact. I also find when you call them out on being rude in the same biting way, they can become emotional (re: cry) quite quickly. I don't know if this is a manipulation tactic or genuine. Other takes on it?
My mom has done that too. I'm still trying to figure out that one. The only thing that I can think of that's not manipulation is that they might be people who can dish it out, but not take it. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 09, 2012 05:04 AM
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
They just tell it as they see it. They think that being honest is a good thing, so they don't feel like they are doing anything wrong.
Applause.
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RegardesPlatero
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posted August 09, 2012 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by awakemer:
Yeah I agree with that but that's not really being blunt, that's just being hones in a normal tactful way. I'll give you an example. my guy friend has moon in sag. I was with my girlfriends and he was there hanging out in the living room.. I told my gf's that i really don't have pretty feet so i don't really like to show them off.. i pointed out the flaws in my feet. I really do not have pretty feet! i guess its all a matter of opinion but i don't find them attractive at all. (huge wide and curved very long toes) my gf's were saying how they are nice and blah blah which they were just saying to make me feel better and i know they didn't really mean it.. my moon in sag guy friend was like " well i they do curve this way and they look really weird" was that really necessary? I feel that sags NEED To tell the truth and if they hear someone lie they can't stand it and they have to be blunt about it.. its just an immature sag thing. I find him telling those thins really unnecessary but that's just me ( i have leo sun and moon)
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originally posted by inthemisosoup: case in point: my mom had horrible morning breath. one morning she tried to give me a good morning kiss or hug and i said "ew mom you smell nasty! your breath is rank!! did you brush your teeth?! brush your teeth and you can say good morning yuck!!" she was obviously hurt, and i realized that, but instead of apologizing the way a normal person would, i said "i don't get it mom, wouldn't you rather i tell you your breath stinks??? if family can't tell you the truth who will??! Would you rather have all of your coworkers smell you and then talk about how you have horrible halitosis behind your back? hmmmm???? it's better i tell you the truth, right???1" See . . . we certainly don't know when to stfu. We think we're being helpful for some odd reason, we really truly do. I didn't understand why she wouldn't want me to tell her about her bad breath.
LMAO Both of those examples are my mother, to a T. I think those of us with Sag family members need a support group or something lol. My dad isn't as bad about it (he's a Sag too). IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 09, 2012 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
My mom has done that too. I'm still trying to figure out that one. The only thing that I can think of that's not manipulation is that they might be people who can dish it out, but not take it.
Oohh honey that's not Sadge. That's something else ENTIRELY.
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Aquacheeka
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posted August 09, 2012 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
My mom has done that too. I'm still trying to figure out that one. The only thing that I can think of that's not manipulation is that they might be people who can dish it out, but not take it.
I have also experienced this. Astrologer Michael Thiessen wrote that Sagittarius can be hypocritical. Actually, so did Regina Russell.
"Do as I say, not as I do."
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Lonake
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posted August 09, 2012 02:09 PM
You can be honest with a Sadge they can take it but other signs you have to worry about. Or not IP: Logged |
SaturnSent
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posted August 09, 2012 06:39 PM
The only Sagittarius I know is female.She states her opinion as it is and my Libra aunt has been known to get offended. The thing is, our Sag friend seems to be blunt out of concern rather than any intended malice. Really the only experience I've had with bluntness and Sagittarius. IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted August 09, 2012 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
My mom has done that too. I'm still trying to figure out that one. The only thing that I can think of that's not manipulation is that they might be people who can dish it out, but not take it.
They can't take it. Sagittarius male friend told a girl do you really think your thin enough to date that guy. She in return (Aquarius Sun, Sag moon) really are do you think your a Ken doll. He cried about it, and he's contemplating plastic surgery now. IP: Logged |
sexyaqua30
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posted August 09, 2012 07:17 PM
Try living with one. He is also a Supervisor and a Lead at two jobs and he's had plenty of employees scream their disdain towards his blunt personality. What they don't know is how super sensitive he is and how he tells me his feelings are hurt when people see him as an a hole. He's a great guy though. I do believe however if I didn't have a sag moon we wouldn't be lovers or friends.IP: Logged |
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