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Venus
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posted August 08, 2012 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
or is it just my boss?

personnaly i can take it. but it hurts my Libran etiquette when i watch him handle other staff members.

he throws comments like "what is this stpidity" or "what kind of trash is this" or the most popular "it's not rocket science"!!!!

he's a good man, but he drives me insane sometimes..

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posted August 08, 2012 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not condescending: foot in mouth + typical fire insensitivity.

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posted August 08, 2012 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
is it still "foot in mouth" if he shows no remorse or guilt afterwords..

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posted August 08, 2012 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dad says things like men shpuld not cut hair or my libra sister should learn how to serve coz she is a girl. He is not like that to employees though since he is a doctor. It's a chill warm hearted profession from my pov.

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posted August 08, 2012 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like a douchenozzle regardless of sign.

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posted August 08, 2012 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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is it still "foot in mouth" if he shows no remorse or guilt afterwords..

Yeah,Sags don't really contemplate on other people's (hurt) feelings - that's the fire insensitivity I mentioned.

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posted August 08, 2012 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know plenty of Saggies who are blunt but not outright insulting or demeaning so I am thinking the man must have something else in the chart ...or in his conditioning ... to make him this way

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posted August 08, 2012 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
My dad says things like men shpuld not cut hair or my libra sister should learn how to serve coz she is a girl. He is not like that to employees though since he is a doctor. It's a chill warm hearted profession from my pov.

lol my boss is a glorified cardiologist

my dad once gave me one of those ridiculous sexist comments about being a good house wife and sh*t. anyway i gave him a piece of my mind and he never mentioned it again.

once, my boss got real upset about some stupid mistake an employee did. he asked me to fetch her so that he can "tell her a few words" i was like "um i can talk to her if you'd like" he smiled and looked up from his glasses and said "don't worry i won't be too mean to her" .. atleast he admits it..

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posted August 08, 2012 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dad is nice to almost all women in the hospital coz 99% of the time he will want to tap that ass lol! He has 5 personals all in sag.

I do not want the housewifey type of woman. She just has to know stuff and stand her ground against me. U know like tasteful non trendy schitt lol. The rest i guess a servant can do.

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posted August 08, 2012 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are Sagittarius people generally condescending people?

No, we are not. We like sincerity. I won't call the black white or vice versa.

You have a bugger hanging from your nose, you did something stupid, you don't know how to spell? I'll call you on it.

It doesn't mean I like you any less. I may even like you more if you show that you're OK with your imperfections. After all, we all have them, right? Linda Goodman explains it very well in her "Sun Signs."

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The archer will walk up to you, give you a hearty slap on the back and a wide, friendly grin. Then he'll greet you with a remark like, "How the heck do you manage to look so young when you're as old as you are?" Or "Say, that turtleneck sweater sure is flattering. You should wear them all the time. Hides your double chin." After one of these cheery openers, he'll still be wearing his bright grin, but your own smile may start to droop a little. It will take him a while to figure out just what he said that set you back on your heels, and even longer to understand why. Then he'll try to explain. Keep your cool. It gets worse.
Golly, didn't you understand what he meant? He thinks it's fabulous to look only twenty-five years old when you're really thirty-eight (which is six years older than you actually are). As for the double chin, lots of people your age have a little flab in the neck region. The only time you can see it is from the side. You know, when you turn your head. Just don't have any pictures taken in profile.

After he's carefully explained his verbal goofs and got you feeling all better again, he'll go on his merry way, whistling a tune from the latest Broadway show. When you cut him dead the next time you meet, he'll be heartbroken -and puzzled. There's no use getting angry or embarrassed. Sagittarius is completely free of malice. He blurts out his shockingly direct speech in total innocence. The fact that he usually adds insult to injury when he tries to fix it also escapes him. Don't judge him too harshly. He means well. Not that he needs your sympathy-or mine. Under his tactless manner is an extremely clever mind and high standards. His unique combination of wit, intelligence and fiery drive usually brings the archer straight to the winner's circle. What really gets you is that both male and female Sagittarians are oblivious to their own blunt speech. They are truly convinced that they are the most diplomatic souls in the world. They're always saying, "Why, I wouldn't hurt anyone's feelings for anything. I'm very careful about that." And they honestly believe it. In fact, everything they do is done honestly. Pretense and deception in any form appalls them.


Having said that, we love it when people stand up to us. You don't like what I'm saying? TELL ME! I need to hear it. Life is too short to walk around seething over something that can be fixed with an honest conversation.

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posted August 08, 2012 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reminds me of my pre-med friend.....he said he could never marry a woman who had a higher position than he ex. he says he could never marry say the lead female surgeon. He's rather blunt about the things he says not in the same way as a Scorpio influenced person would be blunt. Rather he lacks the sensitivity to not indirectly hurt someone. But if someone says something back to in him in the same manner he's get really upset oddly.

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posted August 08, 2012 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's certainly possible for Sagittarians to be condescending, but as stated previously, it either happens from lack of attention to one's actions (hoof-in-mouth), or the Sag thinks they are making light of a person's mistake, which everyone (including the mistaken person) finds funny (insert rim-shot here). Chances are, if your boss is saying these things in a "lighthearted" or non-reprimanding way, he thinks he's funny. It's possible he even thinks these comments diffuse the seriousness of the situation (don't ask, we are weird people).

It is in Sag's nature to get carried away, or push boundaries. How they do that is generally determined by their other planetary arrangements (especially planets like Mars or Saturn when it comes to leadership). Your boss certainly sounds like a douchenozzle regardless of his sign, but as a Sag (possibly with Neptune close to his Sun) he may just be flying around the room on auto-pilot, without much control over his actions.

If you have a personal rapport with your boss and are a rare "Amazonian Confrontational Libra", you could always bring it up casually by asking if his comments are intended as a joke. I think people forget that part of Sagittarius's essential life challenge is to reign their self in and cowboy break their psychotic horse of a personality. It doesn't mean Sagi's require special allowances (in fact they need to be checked regularly, that's why horse trainers have whips and spurs), it just means Sagi's are a bit "autistic", we are born without boundaries or filters (in fact, having no filters feels natural and free to us. From our perspective, boundaries feel quite unnatural...everyone should try just being whatever springs out of their being at any given time), and have to learn to curb our self into a socially acceptable form. We love being corrected as long as 1) the person does it in a lighthearted and nonchalant way 2) The correction is presented not as a challenge to the Sagittarian's character, but as a simple nip or tap.

Having Mars in Leo myself, I progress best if others treat me like a cat. Try to force me to do things your way and I will not be a happy kitty, but playfully guide me in figuring it out on my own (or let me believe I figured it out on my own if you don't have the patience lol) and you can essentially lead me around by my nose.

I wouldn't chock his being a Sag up to much more than his lack of comprehension and remorse for his actions.

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posted August 08, 2012 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To the poster who quoted linda goodman, hmmm... I've never met a sagittarius who was blunt! weird, right? The only people i've met who were like that had virgo moon! boy can they sure dish out those comments without even realizing theyre being rude. My scorpio friend has virgo moon and he says things like that all the time. The other day I was playing the piano on campus and later he saw me again and was like "I thought that was you, but I didnt remember you being so pale, so I kept walking thinking it probably wasnt." Ahahaha. He has no sagittarius either. I find it entertaining, and quite endearing of him also. I enjoy honesty. Who else is going to tell you you need to go tan? Hahaha. I mostly enjoy it though, bc its hilarious and catches you off guard.

There are definitely some virgo moon people i cant stand though. Theyre evil and will practically curse you out randomly one day telling you all the things they think are wrong with you, out of the blue.

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posted August 08, 2012 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for inthemisosoup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, so long as you jokingly point out his obnoxious behavior, the Saggi *shouldn't* react that strongly. Prob he intended it as joke in the first place.

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posted August 08, 2012 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Honestly, as a Sagi Sun I can be very condescending, and sarcastic, but do not "mean" anything by it.

For example "I" may say it is not rocket science", but then "let's see how we can fix it" or "I made the same mistake myself" just trying to go out of my way to show that errors happen.

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posted August 08, 2012 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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(...) or the Sag thinks they are making light of a person's mistake, which everyone (including the mistaken person) finds funny (insert rim-shot here). Chances are, if your boss is saying these things in a "lighthearted" or non-reprimanding way, he thinks he's funny.

This would be "it's not a rocket science" comment.

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posted August 08, 2012 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes. Big mouths.

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posted August 08, 2012 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Being a Sag

Xiiro

It is in Sag's nature to get carried away, or push boundaries. How they do that is generally determined by their other planetary arrangements (especially planets like Mars or Saturn when it comes to leadership). Your boss certainly sounds like a douchenozzle regardless of his sign, but as a Sag (possibly with Neptune close to his Sun) he may just be flying around the room on auto-pilot, without much control over his actions.

Ehmmm...WRONG!...*Loud buzzing noise*

I have Neptune siting on top of my Sun by less than a 1 degree orb and I definitely don't feel like I am on auto-pilot.

In fact, quite the opposite, I feel like I absorb other people's feelings and moods a lot[whether spoken or unspoken]

Back to the issue at hand...

I often find people who are condescending or throw comments like that around, to be deeply insecure about their own intelligence and thus projecting that insecurity on the errors and mistakes that they see others make.

My boss is a Sag and two of the colleagues I work alongside with are also Sag's, but we couldn't be more different in our approach at work.

The one sag has a Sag moon too and Saturn sitting on top of her Sun-she is so damne conservative and structured.A perfectionist in the annoying sense of the word and I have to bite my tongue form lashing out at her due to irritation at times.

The other one is very focused on his work too but more relaxed in his approach. He has a Gemini moon; which often gives him this cool aloof demeanor. He knows a great deal of things though and can go into great detail explaining them(yikes!)

My boss is NOT the ideal boss; let alone employee. He gives very vague instructions and you have to "make out" what he is trying to say or what he actually wants. He is also very restless and takes short cuts ; leaving the responsible Sag(the Saturn one) to tie up the loose ends. He depends very heavily on her.

Being insensitive and a douche has nothing to do with sign but a lot with the maturity of the individual concerned.

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posted August 08, 2012 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes.

And all Scorpios are sex-addicts, Librans passive-aggressive, Leos narcissists, Aries a-holes, Cancerians crybabies, Geminians two-faced, Virgoans hypochondriacs, Taureans boring, Capricorns misers, Aquarians insane, and Pisceans gullible.

... I think we've about covered it.

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posted August 08, 2012 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes.

And all Scorpios are sex-addicts, Librans passive-aggressive, Leos narcissists, Aries a-holes, Cancerians crybabies, Geminians two-faced, Virgoans hypochondriacs, Taureans boring, Capricorns misers, Aquarians insane, and Pisceans gullible.

... I think we've about covered it.

-A.


ROTFL!

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posted August 08, 2012 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AscTaurus:

Ehmmm...WRONG!...*Loud buzzing noise*


Oh... well I guess because your experience is different then I must be wrong... I have a tendency to waste a lot of my time typing about things I know nothing about. The sound of clicking keys relaxes me.

I also happen to have Neptune conjunct my Sun, thanks though for enlightening me on the finer points.... Do I get a parting gift?

You may be fortunate enough to have a good grasp of your Neptune conjunction, but not everyone is. This is especially true in people who lack the sensitivity to know when they are being socially or professionally inappropriate (like the OP's boss).

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posted August 08, 2012 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Xiiro:

Oh... well I guess because your experience is different then I must be wrong... I have a tendency to waste a lot of my time typing about things I know nothing about. The sound of clicking keys relaxes me.

I also happen to have Neptune conjunct my Sun, thanks though for enlightening me on the finer points.... Do I get a parting gift?

You may be fortunate enough to have a good grasp of your Neptune conjunction, but not everyone is. This is especially true in people who lack the sensitivity to know when they are being socially or professionally inappropriate (like the OP's boss).


Yeah, I forgot to mention that Saggies, having mastered the common language, become Kings (and Queens) of Sarcasm.

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posted August 08, 2012 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah, I forgot to mention that Saggies, having mastered the common language, become Kings (and Queens) of Sarcasm.

ROFL

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posted August 08, 2012 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd say we're just calling it as we see it, but that's me being facetious.

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posted August 08, 2012 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunsh!ne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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There are definitely some virgo moon people i cant stand though. Theyre evil and will practically curse you out randomly one day telling you all the things they think are wrong with you, out of the blue.

As a Virgo Moon gal, I'm certainly blunt but my filter is not coated with evil. Some of us may surprise you with kindness and support, unless of course, you're wearing an ugly dress!

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