posted August 15, 2012 04:00 AM            

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Originally posted by bhanna1110:
As a scorpio mercury I have just run into a problem with my excessive digging.

Ive been talking to this girl with sag sun, mercury; aquarius moon; and cancer rising.

We have been talking in a chat room and it just seems like one of those things that feels fated, the rediculous similarities. Because of this feeling I began digging even more then usual. Then I detected there was some sort of problem so I had to figure it out. I asked her and she told me that she felt conflicted about talking to me but she couldnt say why, then logs off quickly. So next time I was able to get her to tell me, she said she likes me way too much and this makes her want to put distance inbetween us, this is what I thought the reason was but not 100% sure. l realized my digging was upsetting her a great deal and wasnt sure what to do. Then she said shes not going to be honest with me about her emotions anymore. At that point I realized we were doomed. For me to stop digging would be akin to.me being a diferent person, i would feel ackward trying to censor what I say, and the conversation would feel meaningless. At the same time, for her to stop guarding would also be like being a different person and she might feel negative about being exposed. I told her neither one of us was willing/able to change so we should stop talking.

Now as I think about it, this doesnt seem like a really good option based upon the connection we have, but I also cant see a way out of the predicament. My normal way of solving problems with people is by talking about the problem in-depth, but in this case talking in-depth isnt possible :/

If anyone would be willing to look at our synastry chart please let me know. Maybe an interpertation could shed some light on the situation.

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Well off the bat...I have to say that her placements don't make for someone who likes a lot of "heavy" emotional talks. I am heavily Water and Earth...but even I don't like heavy emotional talks all the time. Her Fire Mercury wants to have a FUN convo with you. The Aquarius Moon doesn't want to talk feelings and will shut down in response to too much (similar to the way a Cap Moon shuts down when you have emotional overload).

So I really have to say this most likely isn't about your synastry chart as much as it's about her. And what she's comfortable doing. She's a Sag Sun/Aqua Moon, but with a Cancer Rising. So she does do emotions, but the Sag/Aqua combo make it that most of the time she wants fun lighthearted connections. But with emotions and an emotional connection sprinkled in lol.

Overall I would say if you can minimize the digging that would be great. The more you dig, the less responsive she is going to be. And the less fun she will see you as. So if you really want to have an in depth convo with her, maybe instead of laying out all the feelings you have in such an intense way (the Scorpio Mercury) you could just tell her what you think (key word is "think"). Or tell her in a lighthearted way...such as "hey, we're cool...right?" And that's it lol. Trust me there most likely is no need to have a big emotional talk about it.

posted August 15, 2012 04:22 AM            

First there was my Gemini and Cancer Mercury friend (mentioned above...she's angry at me), and there is my Gemini and Cancer Venus best friend, and two Gemini exes that both had Cancer Mercury.

Well anyway I've recently met another one, and to be honest he's not the most talkative person. Even in texting, and email. It seems like he is very reticent, well almost sorta shy but not really. I'm interested in him, and would like to get to know him better. And I know as a Water Mercury I don't think the words will be enough. They want to know how you feel. To me me doing the action of writing is a sign I like him...but I have surmised that's not how a Water Mercury thinks.

posted August 15, 2012 05:03 AM            

For example..

"That feeling when you meet someone you really click with on all levels... and you'd just love to hear their voice "

posted August 15, 2012 06:34 AM            

It's almost impossible to get a direct answer from these people, especially if they have other Cancer placements.

They usually take ages to reply to text messages/emails.
Very secretive! And they say Scorpios are private. My a**! Try getting ANYTHING out of them that they don't want to tell you, it's like mission impossible. They don't like dealing with messy stuff, and will find a way to escape ie ignore you. Passive aggressive.. and I don't think they're that empathetic either. They're self-centered and only concerned about how THEY feel.

Sorry for the negative description but that's been my experience.

Water Mercuries - not my strong point. Except for other Scorpio Mercuries - honest and genuine, no BS and willingness to sort things out (most of the time.. there are exceptions).

I actually like Air Mercuries the most, I think.
Earth is fine. Fire can be *too* lighthearted. Water, it really depends on the level of maturity.. the immature ones are really a pain in the neck. I think there's much potential but it's usually wasted.

posted August 15, 2012 10:30 AM            

Did you guys miss my replies to your Virgo mercury posts? I would love your feedback on my statements .

posted August 15, 2012 11:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
They usually take ages to reply to text messages/emails.
Very secretive! And they say Scorpios are private. My a**! Try getting ANYTHING out of them that they don't want to tell you, it's like mission impossible. They don't like dealing with messy stuff, and will find a way to escape ie ignore you. Passive aggressive.. and I don't think they're that empathetic either. They're self-centered and only concerned about how THEY feel.

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This can be Water failing in general,so it is a matter of maturity,just like you said.
Cancer Merc are very prominent among artists - so the core communication is a form of venting.
Scorp Merc,very interesting position,one of my favourites. Very positive experiences with them - there is only one guy that breaks the circle and to illustrate this:

Me: "I hope you don't feel uncomfortable with my astro inquiries,just when you have Pluto rising,along with Sun and Merc,mentioning sex as life force material is a given. *finishing my sentence with this: *
Him: "Why did you use smiley then?"
Me: "To ease the tension and allude to my good humour"
Him: *shocked*

Woe is me for meeting such an inspiring Scorp!!

Situation no.2
Me: I think you confuse players with people endowed with natural grace and charm,who just live the life fully.
Him: All women think like that. When they get dumped by those type of men in real life I bet they won't feel the same afterwards.You should really rethink your type.
Me: But I wasn't talking about me.
Him: Alright,don't get mad!
Me: o_o I am not ...
Him: Oh,don't you get it?? It was a hint to close this subject.

Gods of rolling eyes,help me

Pisces Merc - their metaphors and writing style is beauty. They tend to underperform in mundane tasks,not sure that's a bad thing,sure it would be easier on them,but who cares when they are lil poets.
My experiences with them vary-I do have H12 Merc,but issues that come along with oppositions are present.

posted August 15, 2012 01:08 PM            

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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
What I want to know is how on earth do you explain how you feel or tell a Cancer Mercury how you feel about them? For some reason both Cancer Mercuries, and Gemini Sun's keep popping up lol.

First there was my Gemini and Cancer Mercury friend (mentioned above...she's angry at me), and there is my Gemini and Cancer Venus best friend, and two Gemini exes that both had Cancer Mercury.

Well anyway I've recently met another one, and to be honest he's not the most talkative person. Even in texting, and email. It seems like he is very reticent, well almost sorta shy but not really. I'm interested in him, and would like to get to know him better. And I know as a Water Mercury I don't think the words will be enough. They want to know how you feel. To me me doing the action of writing is a sign I like him...but I have surmised that's not how a Water Mercury thinks.

So how on earth can I write it (as I heard being told or put on the spot for Water Mercuries is not the best) in a way that conveys that I do like him. From what I'm reading on here, me saying: "You're cute, if you wanted to call me I'd like that" isn't enough lol. Or as a Cancer Mercury has he already picked it up lol.

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Words won't be enough for a cancer mercury he's gonna wanna get to know you first.Telling him is a good step depending on how well you know him.Don't be disappointed if he's not that mushy when your first interacting with him.Most likely he's gonna wanna feel you out more and make sure its genuine first.Coming on too strong may scare him off especially if he is fresh out of a relationship.

posted August 15, 2012 04:39 PM            

as a gemini who is usually quick with thoughts and can be cutting with words (mercury trine pluto, too) this is so hard, because if I'm prepared for a discussion/argument there isn't any thought about what I say, it just flies out of my mouth. best part of the silence is that during those few seconds my gemini moon will find logic in the strangest offendings and think: "hey, maybe they are right and I am like that". but then, after I have had time to think it through, I'm sooo angry at myself for not saying all the clever things I could/should have said..

posted August 15, 2012 04:58 PM            

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Originally posted by la_mer:
just a quick weigh in, why cancer mercury is silent sometimes: when a situation comes up, in which I feel offended (especially if it comes out of nowhere), you will often get silence on my side. seriously, the cat has got the tongue in that moment and it's like I'm frozen inside and outside. as in "don't you dare let them see that this could hurt you!".

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posted August 15, 2012 05:01 PM            

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Originally posted by crissyx89:
Yes when people I'm close with annoy or upset me I just kinda go silent at times as well.I'm more reactive confrontational with strangers upsetting me than friends/family.Its like I go silent because I'm like you should know better.Glad I'm not the only Cancer Mercury that reacts this way!

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posted August 15, 2012 05:11 PM            

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Originally posted by la_mer:
exactly! and then they say this line: you're too sensitive. gaaaaaah..

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posted August 15, 2012 07:50 PM            

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Originally posted by TheManticore:
@GrlyGirl200

"What gets me is they are very slow thinkers or perhaps they process things much more slowly (from my perspective). And even the way they respond to things is really slow (but I also see this with all the Water Mercuries and other Earth Mercuries)."

Well, Virgo mercury has a lot of things to process first before coming to a conclusion. They also want to be as accurate as possible when giving a response to someone, and that takes time. I am probably "faster" than most as mine conjuncts Mars .

"Plus I hate to say this...their communication style is very boring (at least to me). There is no passion, zest, or enthusiasm behind what they say, or even what they write. It's all very cut and dry."

Function is the key word. Virgo mercury only says things that they think will help and be functional, to be fun or entertain is not on their list of priorities. They may also say things that are insensitive as they believe that getting the information/truth across is number one.

My goodness lol, there is a whole lot of virgo mercury hate on this thread lol .

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When I looked back and read this I realized there is a lot of hate for the Virgo Mercury. Actually I know Virgo and Cap placements in general tend to get a lot of hate. I think people see Virgo as boring (which I'll admit I do see it)...BUT at the end of the day a Virgo will remember all those details about the things you said or the things you like. And if you have a bad day, they'll remember to get you your faveorite coffee without you asking. Virgo is discriminating and efficient, so they only tend to want and remember the facts as everything else is more or less "clutter." In a sense they are similar to Scorpio Mercury, in that they want to get to the bare bones heart of a matter and situation. However not in an emotional way, but in a fact based way

But I would think that a Virgo Mercury has a VERY hard time with a Pisces Mercury. In general I find that Pisces Mercury is very vague and up in the clouds. For a Virgo Mercury that is the WORST possible scenario for them. They need only the facts, and don't do well with vagueness. So trying to get a Pisces Mercury (let alone any Water Mercury) to be even a little straightforward is very hard lol.

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Originally posted by Odette:

There is too much ego with this placement and they seem to think they *know* it all.. when in reality they only know things that are based on cold hard facts.. and they are missing everything else.

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I think Virgo ANYTHING is the opposite of egotistical lol. In fact as much as Virgo anything is critical (and they are lol), they are also about a million times more critical of themselves.

posted August 15, 2012 08:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Or just say something strange that hints at ... what you want to say - without actually saying it..

For example..

"That feeling when you meet someone you really click with on all levels... and you'd just love to hear their voice "

Post it on his FB ^ Do you have his FB?

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Odette...it's so funny that you say that lol. Because that's EXACTLY how I felt when I met him. Like I saw him and we talked and then I felt like it just kinda clicked with me. I can't actually explain it (but I am a Cancer Sun...I just can't explain anything in a Cancer way lol).

I do have his Facebook. We became friends a few weeks ago. You see I really wanted to go this route but I didn't want to be too heavy. This is the 2nd Gemini guy with Cancer placements that I've been attracted to this summer. And I think the first one I scared off lol. So I wanted to do something but not be too over the top with it. I thought the Gemini would appreciate me being verbal about it...BUT I think the Cancer side of him might be left a little cold with me just saying I'm into him. So your suggestion of doibng that is subtle (Cancer), and verbal (Gemini).

But my poor Cancer Sun/Asc/Mars (all conjunct and in the 1st) is a little scared to make a move. And if I do the whole cryptic message thing...is it too obvious. I don't want to get hurt or rejected lol...which Cancer Mars hates (ugh I think I'm more Cancer than I give myself credit lol).

posted August 16, 2012 08:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Or just say something strange that hints at ... what you want to say - without actually saying it..

For example..

"That feeling when you meet someone you really click with on all levels... and you'd just love to hear their voice "

Post it on his FB ^ Do you have his FB?

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posted August 16, 2012 06:26 PM            

I used the word "feel" so I'm hoping it would appeal to his Cancer Mercury's need for feelings. And I wrote it to appeal to his Gemini Sun and Moons need for written words. He's a Pisces Rising/Gemini Sun/Moon and the 2nd one I've been into this summer...We met through mutual friends, whereas I met Taurus Rising Gemini at work.

I've noticed that a girl keeps posting on his wall all the time (she's a Scorp Venus...so I know she's intense and sexual...and can attract anyone she wants...he has his Mars trine Pluto). It says she's single...but I know with a Taurus Venus and Cancer Mer/Mars he can commit quickly. But I'm not sure if his Gemini Sun/Moon/Rising will still get bored easily (plus his Moon is Opposite Uranus...and his Venus is Square Jupiter) and not want to commit.

The girl that keeps posting on his wall is a Virgo Sun (could be in his 7th), Aries or Taurus Moon(could be in his 1st), Mercury in Libra (could be in 7th or 8th), Scorpio Venus (could be in his 8th or 9th), Mars in Capricorn.

posted August 17, 2012 02:48 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Not that I know much about Fakebook bon ton,but for a succubus her chart is evoking of,she's kinda lame

Don't give up because of her

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Thanks!!! I do feel a like I can't compete. I don't know if what I said was lame...or desperate about how I felt something when we met. Please give me feedback on that...I'll try not to give up because of her.

posted March 10, 2018 05:01 AM            

They also appear oblivious to the fact that they cause so much avoidable drama through their watered down, indirect messages that seem to have some ulterior motive they don't make the receiver aware of.

They think they are being socially gracious by not addressing things in a head on way. They try to subtly imply things or ignite others to action through this approach that really gets under my skin. I think they think they are really skilled at this. They are not. They will also flat out ignore communication at times if it's via text.

They want to know the answer to Question A, but rather than ask me, they will invent Question B in the hopes I will let slip the answer to Question A, without ever attempting to ask me about Question A.

posted March 10, 2018 11:33 AM            

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Originally posted by cultstatus:
I cannot stand water mercury's indirect and at times passive aggressive communication style. My aquarius mercury finds it incredibly unattractive and frustrating to deal with.

They also appear oblivious to the fact that they cause so much avoidable drama through their watered down, indirect messages that seem to have some ulterior motive they don't make the receiver aware of.

They think they are being socially gracious by not addressing things in a head on way. They try to subtly imply things or ignite others to action through this approach that really gets under my skin. I think they think they are really skilled at this. They are not. They will also flat out ignore communication at times if it's via text.

They want to know the answer to Question A, but rather than ask me, they will invent Question B in the hopes I will let slip the answer to Question A, without ever attempting to ask me about Question A.

I work, live and am best friends with a few water mercury people.

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this is so true. Not just water mercuries, but water sun moon or rising does this a lot too. I think water influence in the inner planets makes people like this quite often. You can tell they think they are being slick but really they give themselves away quickly and easily. They are not good at persuasion or addressing difficult matters. It's either evade it through deflection and attitude issues OR poorly pretend like they have the answers when it is obvious they don't.

posted March 10, 2018 02:40 PM            

What I DO know however, and I think I will speak for atleast 90% of heavy water humans now, is that we will mimick you all the way to the bank and back and trust me when I say that we can smell "under currents" even if they are not hinted at! Heck, YOU might not even KNOW you have negative feelings towards me but I sure have picked up on them..

As for the less than straight-line-talking...

Cancer is CARDINAL = will go straight to point when the point is known to us.

Pisces is MUTABLE = never actually met a Pisces that wasn't straight to the point. They were actually pretty aggressive!
They are delusional dreamers though

posted March 11, 2018 11:52 AM            

What does mercury stand for? How we take in, process information. The concious, the neocortex of the brain (pluto the uncouncious).

Just look at this awesome article http://www.astrologyforthesoul.com/billstreett/plutmerk.html

How we communicate, in what style. If we are direct, if we like using analogies, methaphores. Or if we keep it simple etc.

If we are direct, indirect etc. Also there is genetics. Females are more indirect, something we also have learned when growing up. If we have fixed opinions, our more flowing opinions etc.

All the other stuff some takes up, about being sensetive, passive aggressive etc, those are feelings, the moon.