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Topic: Mercury in Water people...are you really that sensitive?
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GrlyGirl200
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posted August 12, 2012 07:37 PM
  
I know this has been a topic of discussion in the past, but I'm really confused as to how Water Mercuries think. Besides the cookbook interpretations that say they use emotions to make decisions. How does this really effect a person? Especially if you are an Air Sun or Moon. Does it cloud up perceptions to where the individual would think they are coming from a place of logic...but in reality their thoughts (ie Air) are rooted in emotions and are really what is driving them?So Water Mercuries tell us a little about yourself and how you think? Are you REALLY looking for hidden motives and are that sensitive? And others who have dealt with Water Mercuries (and you aren't a Water Mercury) what are your impressions and how do you communicate with them or understand where they are coming from or what they want? IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted August 12, 2012 07:41 PM
True for meCancer mercury, cancer sun. Nothing else in water except pluto. IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl200
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posted August 12, 2012 07:43 PM
Well RunAround what is your communication style? Are you more sensitive to what people say or what? And do you have problems communicating with either Fire or Air Mercuries?IP: Logged |
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posted August 12, 2012 07:54 PM
I have always thought that Water Mercuries communicate in a sort of intuitive way. They "read between the lines" of what you are saying to get to the core feeling/motive. When they speak, you almost have to do the same thing to understand them. It is not about what you or they are ACTUALLY saying. My Mercury is Virgo, conjunct Mars.  ------------------
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hannaramaa
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posted August 12, 2012 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by TheManticore:
I have always thought that Water Mercuries communicate in a sort of intuitive way. They "read between the lines" of what you are saying to get to the core feeling/motive. When they speak, you almost have to do the same thing to understand them. It is not about what you or they are ACTUALLY saying.
Example? As a fire mercury, I don't get how to read between the lines if I don't have to listen to the words actually coming out of their mouth. IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl200
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posted August 12, 2012 08:33 PM
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Example? As a fire mercury, I don't get how to read between the lines if I don't have to listen to the words actually coming out of their mouth.
You took the words right out of my mouth!!! I'm a Leo Mercury and I have no idea how you're supposed to guess and intuit what bothers them. I don't get how to read between the lines. IP: Logged |
Lexyr14
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posted August 12, 2012 08:35 PM
Moon and Mercury both exactly conjunct in Cancer as well as Venus and my sun is only 0 Degrees Leo ... So um ... YEAH and basically my thoughts are my feelings lolIP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted August 12, 2012 08:36 PM
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hannaramaa
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posted August 12, 2012 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
You took the words right out of my mouth!!! I'm a Leo Mercury and I have no idea how you're supposed to guess and intuit what bothers them. I don't get how to read between the lines.
It's like paying attention the vibe and the energy between you and your water friend, instead of taking what they say at face value. You ask them what's wrong, they say nothing (because they're stubborn...drives me nuts.) but you keep feeling uncomfortable. I think he means THAT is what you're supposed to pay attention to. Pay attention to what they AREN'T saying as opposed to what they are. It takes practice for a fire mercury, and it doesn't come naturally but it's possible. I think our abilities are limited, so we'll know something is wrong but not what, whereas water mercuries naturally know what's on your mind. It's weird. IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl200
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posted August 12, 2012 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
It's like paying attention the vibe and the energy between you and your water friend, instead of taking what they say at face value. You ask them what's wrong, they say nothing (because they're stubborn...drives me nuts.) but you keep feeling uncomfortable. I think he means THAT is what you're supposed to pay attention to. Pay attention to what they AREN'T saying as opposed to what they are. It takes practice for a fire mercury, and it doesn't come naturally but it's possible. I think our abilities are limited, so we'll know something is wrong but not what, whereas water mercuries naturally know what's on your mind. It's weird.
I think you're right. But I don't know how to do that. Plus why can't they just be straight forward? Is it because their feelings are hurt or what? I recently have been emailing a chat buddy off and on (we have the same first name lol...and it is VERY rare). We have great convos. And I emailed her about a question on where to go when I visit Michigan (she's from there) and she replied and said some theme park. Keep in mind it took her like three days to reply which isn't a long time so it was fine. But for some reason she still said she was sorry it took her time to respond. Anyway she's really fickle with her replying so when she replied I was surprised. It took me a while to respond back because I have been busy with wedding stuff and moving (I'm in my friends wedding). But in my message back I said and I was surprised she responded because she ignores and then answers some of my messages. I also said because I thought that she wouldn't reply that I asked yahoo answers, and googled things. But couldn't really find anything. And if she knew of anything unique that isn't touristy to let me know. Well I sent that Thur, and she hasn't replied. And I've seen her online and responding to others. I'm like what gives. I thought we were friends and to just ignore my message when I was asking for help I just don't know if I did or said something that was rude. She has a Cancer Mercury and Mars (like me). But she is a Gemini and venus. IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl200
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posted August 12, 2012 10:21 PM
Hannaramaa are you a water sign? Is that why you kinda get it?IP: Logged |
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posted August 12, 2012 10:32 PM
Yes, I'm really a sensitive person. BUT I am also highly Chironic and have Moon-Chiron which contributes. In communicating I can be quite sensitive and have bad nerves, a small comment can make me tense and then randomly explode from Cancer Mars squaring my Mercury. The things people say hurt me more than they know... but Scorp Mercury makes me like a dormant volcano waiting to erupt. I consider and re-consider and turn over again and again what they've said and done to me and eventually I can't think straight about it from the overload of emotions I have. I can be easily offended by blunt speakers and people who scream at me, especially men. I feel like people should know I hate superficial convos and that sometimes, my words and communication have a depth behind them that isn't obvious. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted August 12, 2012 10:36 PM
Yes - The way I *think* is very sensitive and emotional. I could spot a needle in a hay stack because of my emotional understanding of a situation.... and I'm very psychologically analytical.
I love other water Mercs.. They are easy to talk to. It's a strong ESP aspect in synastry.
(I'm an Aries w Pisces Merc)My ex is a Libra with Scorpio Merc.. and I have many other Libra friends with this Mercury sign. Their speech patterns are much more cutting and imposing. When a Scorpio Mercury says something - people usually sit up and listen.
This is similar to Leo Mercury in a sense.
But underneath this Martian/Plutonian bravado - they are just as sensitive as I am w. my Pisces Merc. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted August 12, 2012 10:39 PM
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They "read between the lines" of what you are saying to get to the core feeling/motive.
I agree. It's very difficult to hide something from a person who has a water Mercury - because they *know* what's going on deep down... regardless of the words you are using and what you are choosing to say or not to say. Some people LIKE this ^ but other people feel like it is invasive & they are not comfortable with it.
I've seen people sometimes react badly - in particular to Scorpio Mercury - because I guess they feel stripped naked - figuratively speaking. IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl200
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posted August 12, 2012 10:44 PM
Wow so words hurt you guys more than people know. Even a small comment can hurt. Do you tell the other, or do you guys just go silent? I've dated all three Mercuries...and Scorpio was mistrusting (I'd say I wasn't going to cheat...and then he'd say...I know you are lying...and he was a double Sag lol). The Pisces Mercury would go silent, and become moody and have a hurt look on his face (despite being an Aqua). The Cancer Mercury was probably the worst...not only was he mistrusting like the Scorpio, he would also go silent if hurt...which I would never know when. Plus when he would get hurt he would say such mean things (despite being a double Gemini). Is this typical of Cancer Mercury? Do water Mercuries even realize when they hurt others? My friend not responding hurt my feelings, certainly she has to know that not responding (especially when I made a comment that I didn't expect her to answer) would hurt me and be mean. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted August 12, 2012 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
I think you're right. But I don't know how to do that. Plus why can't they just be straight forward? Is it because their feelings are hurt or what?
Rofl. And water mercuries wonder why we fire mercuries (I'm an Aries with mercury in Aries by the way. I might as well be a Pisces though as I notice a lot of similarities between us. Vedically I am, but I digress...) always have to be so abrasive and confrontational! quote:
Anyway she's really fickle with her replying so when she replied I was surprised. It took me a while to respond back because I have been busy with wedding stuff and moving (I'm in my friends wedding). But in my message back I said and I was surprised she responded because she ignores and then answers some of my messages. I also said because I thought that she wouldn't reply that I asked yahoo answers, and googled things. But couldn't really find anything. And if she knew of anything unique that isn't touristy to let me know. Well I sent that Thur, and she hasn't replied. And I've seen her online and responding to others. I'm like what gives. I thought we were friends and to just ignore my message when I was asking for help I just don't know if I did or said something that was rude. She has a Cancer Mercury and Mars (like me). But she is a Gemini and venus. [/B]
Ooh. Mars in Cancer. Yeck. I have Mars in Gemini in the 12th house (maybe that's why I "get" it a little easier) but nevertheless, Mars in Cancer is so...emotional. First off, if a Gemini is ignoring you - you ****** them off and they are playing a little "F... you" game to get you back in their minds. I say ****** off but it doesn't mean you enraged her, I think water placements operate in that they notice the same things we do about interactions with people but they keep it themselves for reference. They don't feel a need to bring it up out into the open sunlight. Water mercuries tend to assume a lot as well because they read into the emotion of everything, not the action (like fire sign mercuries do.) If I had to guess, she's annoyed you called her out on her flakiness (also a Gemini trait, hehe. I have Gemini ASC and Mars and Jupiter there. I know a little bit.) I know two Gemini suns, one has a Cancer moon and one has Mercury in Cancer. Both of these people ignored me (well, one cut me off but he wasn't very important or trustworthy. Still.) whenever I upset them and apparently it's upsetting to them to be straightforward and let them know you notice their flaws. Water people notice them but they understand. They draw their boundaries a different way, in an undercurrent rather than being outspoken. I'm not really sure why it's uncomfortable for them to be straightforward other than they interpret it as "fighting." IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted August 12, 2012 11:29 PM
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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
Is this typical of Cancer Mercury? Do water Mercuries even realize when they hurt others?
ROFL! GrlyGirl... (that was a friendly ROFL by the way) You have so much to learn... they definitely know when they hurt others. Unlike fire sign mercuries who often hurt others feelings in the spur of a moment comment, water sign mercuries can hold back better than us. They are observant and don't have to try hard at all to wound another with their words. They can tell you what you want to hear and fill you with hope, or they can cut you down and make you feel despair. It's part of the magic of Water is how easily they're able to manipulate your feelings, whereas fire sign mercuries don't try to manipulate anything. They say what's on their mind and go based on the moment. Water plans. IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl200
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posted August 12, 2012 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
...Water mercuries tend to assume a lot as well because they read into the emotion of everything, not the action (like fire sign mercuries do.)
So water mercuries read behind the words you say or don't say (even in writing)...yet they don't tell you that you upset or hurt them so they ignore you...but expect you to know what you've done...and then when they start talking to you again after they've gotten over it...they expect you to not say anything and act like it didn't happen because they view that as confrontation and that you're angry with them? Lol Seriously water mercuries...please respond why are you guys so complex and a little difficult (not in a bad way though)? IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted August 12, 2012 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
So water mercuries read behind the words you say or don't say (even in writing)...yet they don't tell you that you upset or hurt them so they ignore you...but expect you to know what you've done...and then when they start talking to you again after they've gotten over it...they expect you to not say anything and act like it didn't happen because they view that as confrontation and that you're angry with them? LolSeriously water mercuries...please respond why are you guys so complex and a little difficult (not in a bad way though)?
To put it simply... water signs have a more penetrable ego than fire signs do, so they're liable to take a lot more "little" things personally that a fire sign would shrug off or not even pay attention to. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted August 13, 2012 12:18 AM
Well.. personally if I'm at a point where I'm avoiding someone because they have hurt me.. then i don't expect them to figure out what they have done... I just expect them to leave me alone - because I am probably through with the friendship. We all pick and choose the people we interact with, the people we would call friends or close friends or acquaintances - It's only human.
I am not going to like everyone out there.
If someone bothers me to a point where... I'm *done* - then I'm just *done*.. and that's that. I don't feel like I owe them an explanation ^. Maybe that's the biggest difference between feminine and masculine signs. Masculine Mercuries want to express themselves and explain what the problem is.
If they decide to break up with someone or stop being friends - They might literally explain to that person *why*. As a water Mercury I do NOT care. I do not feel like I want to explain anything to them... They can get over it and leave me alone - as far as I'm concerned. IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl200
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posted August 13, 2012 12:42 AM
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GrlyGirl200
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posted August 13, 2012 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by Odette:
Well.. personally if I'm at a point where I'm avoiding someone because they have hurt me.. then i don't expect them to figure out what they have done... I just expect them to leave me alone - because I am probably through with the friendship. We all pick and choose the people we interact with, the people we would call friends or close friends or acquaintances - It's only human.
I am not going to like everyone out there.
If someone bothers me to a point where... I'm *done* - then I'm just *done*.. and that's that. I don't feel like I owe them an explanation ^. Maybe that's the biggest difference between feminine and masculine signs. Masculine Mercuries want to express themselves and explain what the problem is.
If they decide to break up with someone or stop being friends - They might literally explain to that person *why*. As a water Mercury I do NOT care. I do not feel like I want to explain anything to them... They can get over it and leave me alone - as far as I'm concerned.
Well I understand that...but you just decide to not talk to someone at the slightest bit of hurt. Isn't that a bit extreme. I'm sure you say things that hurt others from time to time, and I'm sure you wouldn't like it if someone wrote you off and decided to cut you out after one time of saying something hurtful. At least if I'm understanding you correctly. Or are you talking about over time...such as someone continually hurts you. If you are saying over time, I understand. I am a Cancer Sun/Asc/Mars so I get being done when someone has hurt me and been inconsiderate over time (esp over time because I'm a slow Taurus Venus lol). But it's never just a one shot time. Well in dating it is, but then I just put them in the friend category. In my case Odette...I don't think I said anything wrong to her. Or did maybe I did (Moon in 7th can see both sides) I think from the message I sent it probably gave the impression that I was hurt or annoyed that I was ignored (at least that is probably what she picked up) even though I said "lol" after I said it. If that was obvious then why on earth would someone just not reply and ignore me again...esp when they know it hurt/annoyed me the first time around...plus it's hurtful esp because I'm a Cancer Sun lol. The only way I understand it is if they don't care if they hurt or annoyed me. IP: Logged |
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posted August 13, 2012 02:12 AM
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Originally posted by TheManticore:
I have always thought that Water Mercuries communicate in a sort of intuitive way. They "read between the lines" of what you are saying to get to the core feeling/motive. When they speak, you almost have to do the same thing to understand them. It is not about what you or they are ACTUALLY saying. My Mercury is Virgo, conjunct Mars.
Very interesting. I love Mercury conj Mars btw 
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posted August 13, 2012 03:06 AM
Yeah I am highly sensitive,mercury in pisces retrogade here.I take things too personally.For example:If you say something,I analyse it alot(maybe because of my mercury square pluto),and if it reminds me of my flaws then I get embarrassed and that embarrassing moment plays in my head again and again.After that,I will hesitate to talk with you as frankly I would have talked wtih you if that thing you said had not embarrassed me.I can be very sarcastic when I communicate but if you embarrass me by saying something then when I am alone that whole scenario plays again and again and I get really overwhelmed.Maybe this is because of my mercury opposition chiron.I also cannot be assertive when communicating.I am very cautious as well. IP: Logged |
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posted August 13, 2012 03:22 AM
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Well RunAround what is your communication style? Are you more sensitive to what people say or what? And do you have problems communicating with either Fire or Air Mercuries?
i do have trouble communicating with fire and air mercuries, and i agree with everything you guys mentioned about water mercuries' behavior. =) I dont have trouble communicating with libra mercuries though for some reason. I find that even if someone's sun sign is compatible to mine, if their mercury isn't then we wont get along. But, if their mercury IS compatible to mine, even if their sunsign is incompatible with mine, we will get along great So mercury signs must be pretty important somehow. ------------------
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