posted August 13, 2012 03:26 AM            

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"Being important is nice, but being nice is more important." =0)

posted August 13, 2012 05:48 AM            

You have a Cancer Mercury if I remember correctly right? In my experience with them...it's very easy to hurt them (well actually all Water Mercuries tend to get easily hurt...at least in my opinion).

Here are some questions I don't really get for all Water Mercuries.

1. When you say you read into the emotions behind what is said or what isn't said...what do you mean?

2. How you can tell the emotions from an email etc. Is it tone or what?

3. Do you ever just take things at face value? Or do you look for hidden motives (or hidden feelings) in everything?

4. Do you ever not have your emotions apart of the things you think/say or think others are saying?

5. When you say "emotions" are you saying they are based on how you feel at that moment, or are they based on what the person is presenting to you at that moment (may it be facts, or thoughts they express) and the emotion it evokes or doesn't evoke?

6. Can there ever be true indifference or a neutral opinion to a person/acquaintance/thought/situation? Or is there any emotional reaction to everything presented to you or you think others are saying?

7. And finally what does silence really mean from a Water Mercury.

posted August 13, 2012 06:11 AM            

1. When you say you read into the emotions behind what is said or what isn't said...what do you mean?

Someone's tone, posture, facial expressions while speaking. I observe all of that. I thought everyone did that lol. doesnt the statistic go that 80% of communication is what doesn't come out of your mouth? aka body language

2. How you can tell the emotions from an email etc. Is it tone or what?

Well, i try to analyze what the person is feeling and what might be going on inside their head. Then i try to read the email from that point of view. I do read sentences over and over again especially if it is a heated conversation, to see all the possible ways the person couldve meant it.

3. Do you ever just take things at face value? Or do you look for hidden motives in everything?

Face value. I never look for hidden motives. maybe you mean emotions. hidden emotions, yes. hidden motives, no. I trust that most people do not have underhanded motives...why would they? im not a powerful figure who they want something from or anything ^_^

4. Do you ever not have your emotions apart of the things you think/say or think others are saying?

Hmm nope. emotions are a part of everything i say, do, think, and (even) eat.

5. When you say "emotions" are you saying they are based on how you feel at that moment, or are they based on what the person is presenting to you at that moment (may it be facts, or thoughts they express) and the emotion it evokes or doesn't evoke?

both things. most of the time my emotions at that moment...are influenced by what the person says or does. What i mean by emotions as used in the answer above, though, is how i feel in the moment/whatever mood i am in--which is caused by my thoughts that day, and also my emotions being a part of everything i do means that i will remember more the emotional tone of a situation aka how it made me feel rather than what was said exactly..but everything that i remember will connect most of all to how it made me feel and also to my own personal inner thoughts at the moment. everything is remembered as a very personal introverted experience. i can remember my own thoughts to myself way better than what somebody was saying when i was thinking those thoughts.

6. And finally can there ever be indifference or a neutral opinion to a person/acquaintance/thought/situation?

of course. everyone experiences indifference about something. BUT...MOST of the time i would like not to be indifferent. it causes in me an itch to try to settle this indifference. WHY do i feel indifferent, i ask myself. therefore, it is rare that i feel indifferent to anything, at least for long. it makes me uneasy and also depressed to feel indifferent.

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"Being important is nice, but being nice is more important." =0)

posted August 13, 2012 08:33 AM            

1. When you say you read into the emotions behind what is said or what isn't said...what do you mean?

When I know a person - I pick up on so many things about them and I remember these things forever. Body language, tone of voice... the kinds of things they say and when they choose say them or how.
This happens without much forethought.. It comes naturally to me.
Because of this memory-drawer I have ON that person.. I can usually tell what they mean by something in an email or otherwise.. even if they might not literally express it.

2. How you can tell the emotions from an email etc. Is it tone or what?

It's purely based on my memory OF that person.. The way they have behaved in the past.
But you have to really remember *everything* and pay a LOT of attention to people - in order to understand them on such a subtle level that you'd be able to read between the lines in their emails.

3. Do you ever just take things at face value? Or do you look for hidden motives in everything?

I never "look for" a hidden motive. Either it is there or it is not.
If there is something hidden - I usually feel it - due to that person's overall demeanour and tone of voice - and the way they make eye contact with me.
But with a lot of small everyday conversations there are no significant hidden motives.

4. Do you ever not have your emotions apart of the things you think/say or think others are saying?

No. My emotions and my thoughts are always intertwined.
I can analyse a situation cooly - as a mental exercise.. but I wouldn't act on this. I only act on my intuitive *mix* of thought & emotion.

5. When you say "emotions" are you saying they are based on how you feel at that moment, or are they based on what the person is presenting to you at that moment (may it be facts, or thoughts they express) and the emotion it evokes or doesn't evoke?

My thoughts about another person/situation are usually based on HOW *they* feel at that moment.. "They" as in - the other person or people involved in that situations.

6. And finally can there ever be indifference or a neutral opinion to a person/acquaintance/thought/situation? Or is there any emotional reaction to everything presented to you or you think others are saying?

Rarely - I am indifferent to things... but I usually feel *something*.

7. What does silence really mean from a Water Mercury.

Usually it means something positive.. They are just relaxed and happy - when quiet.

posted August 13, 2012 11:45 AM            

I'm glad you like it My relatives sure don't lol.

Someone mentioned Scorpio Mercuries being paranoid/suspicious or something, I agree with this. They are always "digging" with their mind into the underneath, looking for hidden motives and secrets. The only time it is bad is when it takes them over and they start seeing things that are not there . Also, Scorpio Mercuries can tend to have "tunnel vision", but that kind of focus can also be of great benefit.

As for the Pisces Mercury, which is the hardest for me to understand as a Virgo Mercury...

I have a brother with this placement and it always seems from my perspective that when I ask him a simple question he goes off into space, considering all the possibilities. I asked him what he thinks about when this happens and he just said one word "infinity". This got me thinking and helped me to understand Pisces Mercury a lot better. Whereas the Virgo Mercury is always trying to sort and narrow down information or isolate it, Pisces Mercury is always expanding and exploring all ideas. I like to think of it like space, always moving "outward" in an infinite way.

posted August 13, 2012 11:26 PM            

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Originally posted by TheManticore:
@Ami Anne

I'm glad you like it My relatives sure don't lol.

Someone mentioned Scorpio Mercuries being paranoid/suspicious or something, I agree with this. They are always "digging" with their mind into the underneath, looking for hidden motives and secrets. The only time it is bad is when it takes them over and they start seeing things that are not there . Also, Scorpio Mercuries can tend to have "tunnel vision", but that kind of focus can also be of great benefit.

As for the Pisces Mercury, which is the hardest for me to understand as a Virgo Mercury...

I have a brother with this placement and it always seems from my perspective that when I ask him a simple question he goes off into space, considering all the possibilities. I asked him what he thinks about when this happens and he just said one word "infinity". This got me thinking and helped me to understand Pisces Mercury a lot better. Whereas the Virgo Mercury is always trying to sort and narrow down information or isolate it, Pisces Mercury is always expanding and exploring all ideas. I like to think of it like space, always moving "outward" in an infinite way.

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O wow that sounds just like me. I can't even look at menus at a restaurant without getting flustered, too many choices, it very hard for me to narrow things down sometimes.

posted August 14, 2012 12:57 AM            

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Originally posted by crissyx89:
My mercury is in cancer.I'm sensitive only if I feel someone is being rude or behaving inappropriately.Other than that I'm calm cool and collected not too emotional.

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So Crissyx89 your emotions or feelings don't influence your thoughts? Because (at least from my perspective) being emotional is not the same as being influenced by feelings. Nor is being cool, calm, and collected. To me that just means you are able to be level headed during a crisis or situation and not let your feelings and emotional impressions cloud your logic and limit your ability to detach in a given situation.

posted August 14, 2012 01:16 AM            

For instance according to the Water Mercuries your feelings and thoughts are one and the same. Meaning you're more or less driven by emotions and understanding the feelings behind the information.

Air would be motivated by the thoughts that are presented behind the information.

Earth would be motivated by the practicality of what is behind the information.

And finally Fire is motivated by the actions behind the information. For me all information I receive or thoughts I have spur me to action in some form.

Thinking about the prime difference between Fire Mercuries (at least myself as a Leo Mercury) and Water Mercuries is that to me my Leo Mercury makes me incredibly self focused. To the point where I only remember details on how they effected me. All my perceptions and thoughts, or even how a situation occurred are remembered by how I was treated, or felt, or happy I was. I don't remember any of the other details or other opinions other than what my place was in the situation.

posted August 14, 2012 01:18 AM            

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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
So Crissyx89 your emotions or feelings don't influence your thoughts? Because (at least from my perspective) being emotional is not the same as being influenced by feelings. Nor is being cool, calm, and collected. To me that just means you are able to be level headed during a crisis or situation and not let your feelings and emotional impressions cloud your logic and limit your ability to detach in a given situation.

For instance I'm cool, calm, and collected most of the time, but at the same time impulsive in most everything. But I'm a Cap Moon with a Cancer Stellium all Conjunct each other in the 1st. And my Leo Mercury doesn't make me emotional or sensitive, but it does make me passionate, a bit drama filled, self focused, but also VERY playful. And I definitely don't go on the offense or pout and sulk (the way it's thought that most water influenced people do).

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I don't show my emotions to strangers I'm very direct and straight to the point when I'm communicating with co workers/strangers/acquaintances.I've been told that I'm hard to read by people that don't know me that well.

Of coarse my emotions do influence my thoughts but again I'm very calm cool and collected.Unless someone disrespects me or does something too offend my friends/family.

posted August 14, 2012 01:59 AM            

My biggest problem is that (from my perspective) they only see the surface of things/events/situations.. and there are so many things they don't seem to understand at all.
Due to this they make really silly mistakes - like trusting the wrong people - thinking everyone is as *straight forward* as they are.
Whenever I have tried to have a heart2heart with a Virgo Merc and explain to them what was going on.... they did not understand - they did not believe me - they did not hear me out. 80% of these situations turned out the way I said they would - and I was very tempted to give them my "I told you so".

posted August 14, 2012 02:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:

My biggest problem is that (from my perspective) they only see the surface of things/events/situations.. and there are so many things they don't seem to understand at all.
Due to this they make really silly mistakes - like trusting the wrong people - thinking everyone is as *straight forward* as they are.
Whenever I have tried to have a heart2heart with a Virgo Merc and explain to them what was going on.... they did not understand - they did not believe me - they did not hear me out. 80% of these situations turned out the way I said they would - and I was very tempted to give them my "I told you so".

There is too much ego with this placement and they seem to think they *know* it all.. when in reality they only know things that are based on cold hard facts.. and they are missing everything else.

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I agree with you Odette. In general I love Virgo placements (well I tend to love the Moon in it). They are only concerned with the facts (which I get), but they are so concerned with the tiny details that they miss the big picture and don't see what is right in front of their face.

posted August 14, 2012 12:10 PM            

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Originally posted by AriesKat:

O wow that sounds just like me. I can't even look at menus at a restaurant without getting flustered, too many choices, it very hard for me to narrow things down sometimes.

I am sensitive at times and take things way too personally and then other times where I could careless, thats that mutable energy I guess.

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Great! I'm glad I am not too far off .

Also, remember that you may not be able to narrow things down as well, but you do have one of the most creative/artistic mercuries . Always an upside to things .

posted August 14, 2012 12:15 PM            

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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:

For instance according to the Water Mercuries your feelings and thoughts are one and the same. Meaning you're more or less driven by emotions and understanding the feelings behind the information.

Air would be motivated by the thoughts that are presented behind the information.

Earth would be motivated by the practicality of what is behind the information.

And finally Fire is motivated by the actions behind the information. For me all information I receive or thoughts I have spur me to action in some form.

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This interpretation is spot on^^, props!

posted August 14, 2012 12:33 PM            

Yes and from my perspective pisces mercuries are the most annoying . I think that with any opposite mercury interaction both sides get frustrated that they can't "get across" what they are trying to say.

"My biggest problem is that (from my perspective) they only see the surface of things/events/situations.. and there are so many things they don't seem to understand at all."

I don't believe that this is the case. Virgo mercury does collect all the information but what it does then is "filters" it and clears out all the fluff to isolate what it believes is the most important and pertinent information to pass on or use.

"There is too much ego with this placement and they seem to think they *know* it all.. when in reality they only know things that are based on cold hard facts.. and they are missing everything else. "

I don't believe it is ego so much as evidence and proof. Virgo mercury works very hard at trying to sort and calculate things and when they have come to a conclusion that they believe is accurate they state it with confidence.

posted August 14, 2012 12:46 PM            

"What gets me is they are very slow thinkers or perhaps they process things much more slowly (from my perspective). And even the way they respond to things is really slow (but I also see this with all the Water Mercuries and other Earth Mercuries)."

Well, Virgo mercury has a lot of things to process first before coming to a conclusion. They also want to be as accurate as possible when giving a response to someone, and that takes time. I am probably "faster" than most as mine conjuncts Mars .

"Plus I hate to say this...their communication style is very boring (at least to me). There is no passion, zest, or enthusiasm behind what they say, or even what they write. It's all very cut and dry."

Function is the key word. Virgo mercury only says things that they think will help and be functional, to be fun or entertain is not on their list of priorities. They may also say things that are insensitive as they believe that getting the information/truth across is number one.

My goodness lol, there is a whole lot of virgo mercury hate on this thread lol .

posted August 14, 2012 01:26 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
i have cancer mercury and i get along with cap mercuries. my least favorite mercury is saggie.. the compatibility descriptions are terrible anyway, so it makes sense ^___^

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check ur email twin!feels like its been forever since we've talked haha!

posted August 14, 2012 09:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
TheManticore - That's interesting because I have a Pisces Mercury and I have had the most problems in my life with Virgo Mercury people. I don't think anyone annoys quite that much.
I also have Jupiter in Pisces though & I've noticed that when their Mercury is opposite my Jupiter - the annoyance level jumps to new heights.

My biggest problem is that (from my perspective) they only see the surface of things/events/situations.. and there are so many things they don't seem to understand at all.
Due to this they make really silly mistakes - like trusting the wrong people - thinking everyone is as *straight forward* as they are.
Whenever I have tried to have a heart2heart with a Virgo Merc and explain to them what was going on.... they did not understand - they did not believe me - they did not hear me out. 80% of these situations turned out the way I said they would - and I was very tempted to give them my "I told you so".

There is too much ego with this placement and they seem to think they *know* it all.. when in reality they only know things that are based on cold hard facts.. and they are missing everything else.

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posted August 15, 2012 12:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
My biggest problem is that (from my perspective) they only see the surface of things/events/situations.. and there are so many things they don't seem to understand at all.
Due to this they make really silly mistakes - like trusting the wrong people - thinking everyone is as *straight forward* as they are.
Whenever I have tried to have a heart2heart with a Virgo Merc and explain to them what was going on.... they did not understand - they did not believe me - they did not hear me out. 80% of these situations turned out the way I said they would - and I was very tempted to give them my "I told you so".

There is too much ego with this placement and they seem to think they *know* it all.. when in reality they only know things that are based on cold hard facts.. and they are missing everything else.

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posted August 15, 2012 12:25 AM            

Ive been talking to this girl with sag sun, mercury; aquarius moon; and cancer rising.

We have been talking in a chat room and it just seems like one of those things that feels fated, the rediculous similarities. Because of this feeling I began digging even more then usual. Then I detected there was some sort of problem so I had to figure it out. I asked her and she told me that she felt conflicted about talking to me but she couldnt say why, then logs off quickly. So next time I was able to get her to tell me, she said she likes me way too much and this makes her want to put distance inbetween us, this is what I thought the reason was but not 100% sure. l realized my digging was upsetting her a great deal and wasnt sure what to do. Then she said shes not going to be honest with me about her emotions anymore. At that point I realized we were doomed. For me to stop digging would be akin to.me being a diferent person, i would feel ackward trying to censor what I say, and the conversation would feel meaningless. At the same time, for her to stop guarding would also be like being a different person and she might feel negative about being exposed. I told her neither one of us was willing/able to change so we should stop talking.

Now as I think about it, this doesnt seem like a really good option based upon the connection we have, but I also cant see a way out of the predicament. My normal way of solving problems with people is by talking about the problem in-depth, but in this case talking in-depth isnt possible :/

If anyone would be willing to look at our synastry chart please let me know. Maybe an interpertation could shed some light on the situation.

posted August 15, 2012 02:44 AM            

Sometimes it can give tricky situations though because they aren't always very explicit.

Like:

Me:
"Hey are you're gonna join us for dinner friday night?"

Pisces Merc:
"Oh I'm going out drinking Thursday night so I won't be hungry at all."

My deduction is that he won't join us for food because he won't be hungry. So no need to prepare extra food. But I thought just to be on the safe side, let's ask again:
"So are you going to join us for food? Answer: Yes/No."

Pisces Merc looking baffled:
"Huh? Yes of course! "