posted September 01, 2012 01:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Aeline:
It's not a good idea to wish death to the person, you know. What goes around, comes around. Not a good idea to have this kind of attitude, honey, no matter how bad your relationship are. You have to resolve it for yourself somehow. I mean - having the anger and hate in your heart won't do any good to your soul and karma anyway. I'd say you let go of it, better leave her and go your own way, if it's possible.

P.S. Just my 5 cents.

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So, take your 5 cents back. Unless you know even remotely half of the story, you're not tall enough to ride this ride. So, shove it.

I'm not usually this blunt but this is not a topic that i'm willing to budge on or have u come here with ur judgement of 5 cents.

Eat me.

posted September 01, 2012 01:47 PM            

C1ND3R, I don't think that Aeline was trying to tell you *what* to do as much as she was trying to help you deal with your Karma (cuz, according to that chart you posted, that's nothing BUT Karma). Her Medusa in Leo smack dab in your 4th house? Wow. Aside from astrology, what was her upbringing like? That further influences how we function as adults: was she essentially abandoned by her mother? Did she have no positive female figures in her life to guide her?

I told you how I thought my father was crazy--hell, he was crazy--and I really didn't want anything to do with him. I miss him now because he's dead; had a wicked Mars opposite Uranus transit that took him right on out of here. Then, I had the nerve to be ****** at him for getting killed! He was always out of reach, and with him dying I could never be close to him again. But that was Karma that I needed to just accept and deal with.

You have an opportunity to heal. Don't be entrenched in hate and anger when you can rise above it.

posted September 01, 2012 01:52 PM            

That said, if it was important, said user would've maybe went back to read even a reply to their statement but obviously, they didn't because they were speaking out of their a$s to begin with.

So, i do get what you're trying to say, but you have no idea where they were coming from so you are also not one to speak for them.

As for the death bit: my mother wished every single day and would tell me she wished she died while giving birth to me. So, i'm afraid you guys may see malice where there is none. Her and i are on the same pg as far as that goes.

posted September 01, 2012 02:07 PM            

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Originally posted by SagittariusRising:
YOUCH!

C1ND3R, I don't think that Aeline was trying to tell you *what* to do as much as she was trying to help you deal with your Karma (cuz, according to that chart you posted, that's nothing BUT Karma). Her Medusa in Leo smack dab in your 4th house? Wow. Aside from astrology, what was her upbringing like? That further influences how we function as adults: was she essentially abandoned by her mother? Did she have no positive female figures in her life to guide her?

I told you how I thought my father was crazy--hell, he was crazy--and I really didn't want anything to do with him. I miss him now because he's dead; had a wicked Mars opposite Uranus transit that took him right on out of here. Then, I had the nerve to be ****** at him for getting killed! He was always out of reach, and with him dying I could never be close to him again. But that was Karma that I needed to just accept and deal with.

You have an opportunity to heal. Don't be entrenched in hate and anger when you can rise above it.

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Her upbringing? My grandmother was a rape child.. She was left at a convent immediately after birth to be raised by nuns. My biological was 1 of 9 kids.. A pair of twins were stillbirths and so was another single one (would've been 12). Her mother was a Cancer, not at all attentive or affectionate. She had saturn conjunct south node so was a very bitter woman.

My grandfather died when my mom was 5. He was a communist and a hardcore rebel. An Aries. The family had to flee Venezuela because my grandfather had a price on his head. She grew up and was arrested once for hitting a cop because "rebellion" was in.. I think she still has that notion entrenched in her head.

He died of pneumonia, or something. Idk.

My mother grew up being bullied and thrown bugs at because she was PETRIFIED of them. Uh, she got pregnant at 19 and immediately started working to support that kid. She was born in Venezuela but raised in cuba during the batista/castro revolution regime.

She had me at 31/32 and had a very psychologically abusive relationship with my father. She'd go into a frenzy because my father would sneak into the house and take me off to be with him for weeks at a time without anyone knowing so. The relationship between them while i grew up was rocky to say the least.. The ENTIRE neighborhood would witness the feuds that would last for entire days!!

There's lots of sibling rivalry with between the sisters (including her). Not much else to say, i don't think.

Her and her daughter have an unhealthy relationship and she was REALLY abusive towards her. Michael jackson had it easy, compared to her. My mother would throw punches. I rarely saw her while i grew up. She used to babysit to make ends meet. My house used to be filled with 13 kids at a time so, her and i never had a close relationship.

posted September 01, 2012 02:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Aeline:
Oh, common. I DID read the entire thread and i DID see the reply, only i'd better not involve myself into any conflicts which i'm sure, would have come if i did reply what i actually though on your reply. So easy is that.

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Where in the heck is your logic, then. Seriously! I mention that i slept with a hammer for some time and you think i did that just for fun!? How are you going to just come in and say that i shouldn't wish or say something based on how i'm feeling given what i've just shared.

Because someone else fed you that it's wrong to wish that on someone you feel it ok to also impose that on me? Where do u get off? Had you maybe said something other than yada yada yada karma this and you shouldn't do that i'd be more open to what you had to say but you contributed nothing but judgement from your righteous point of view.

posted September 01, 2012 02:36 PM            

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posted September 01, 2012 02:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I am sorry for all you went through.

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No one's ever apoligized for anything like that and even though you played no part in it, i sincerely thank you for that.

I made a lot of progress and i've managed to get away from all of that to come into my own and not be a product of their environment.. My life is a very happy one and it's been hectic but i seem to have managed more than ok. I'm a very lucky person. I just do not like being around them or having to deal with them because it's as if they just try to trample on all the progress i've made.. That urks me! And i snapped on that other user because hell, it's my progress and myself that i'm fighting for here. In an environment like that, there is no other option if you want to live.

posted September 01, 2012 02:59 PM            

Thank u guys for reading and posting.

And saggy, i can kinda relate.. I remember trying to reach out to my dad and it not working and it sucked. I cried for a little bit.

The feeling doesn't exactly go away and i think i still look for something to be a father figure or something to look up to but since i've never had it, i stick with what i had to begin with.. Ideals. I live by them and try to model myself after it. It's the best i can do.

I've been my own mother and father because i needed to be and it's a bit of an exalted role because at least that way, i pave new way.

Maybe something out of that may help you.

I've found a "mother" and "father" in the things that make me better and help me feel good and i hope that those things live forever.

...ah, anyway... This pisces full moon always seems to catch me by surprise. I'm deciding to draw the line here for today. Lol. I'm on my way to whole foods to get some antioxidants and maybe some fruit

posted September 01, 2012 03:00 PM            

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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
Where in the heck is your logic, then. Seriously! I mention that i slept with a hammer for some time and you think i did that just for fun!? How are you going to just come in and say that i shouldn't wish or say something based on how i'm feeling given what i've just shared.

Because someone else fed you that it's wrong to wish that on someone you feel it ok to also impose that on me? Where do u get off? Had you maybe said something other than yada yada yada karma this and you shouldn't do that i'd be more open to what you had to say but you contributed nothing but judgement from your righteous point of view.

I mean, really.

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Noone said that to me, it's just what it is, i can't kill a fly myself. I don't tell you what to do, i just expressed my opinion which i legally can do because it's a public forum as far as i know. Forget the karma, it's about psychology too. The hate we keep inside us, may never do any harm to the person we hate, we are the ones that suffer from that hate.

posted September 01, 2012 03:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
Hey can I ask you about your NN's and the aspects?

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posted September 01, 2012 03:15 PM            

The fact that you know all of that and are able to articulate it means to ME that deep down you KNOW your mom was failed, and was probably doomed to repeat what she experienced. That's the part that sucks; that they can't seem to OVERCOME that. I still say that because of your knowledge of astrology, you have a better chance of healing yourself than your parents probably ever will. Hell, you've already had to raise yourself in many important ways. I saw that Moon/Venus in your chart too, I can feel how painful that must have been to deal with. With her Leo Medusa in your 4th house...was she too vain to be nurturing to you? Or does Medusa in the 4th mean that she was "stone cold" and prideful to boot? I hope someone can chime in on that, I'm still learning asteroids.

posted September 01, 2012 03:45 PM            

I'm familiar with the "history repeating itself", pattern thing you mentioned.. I'm just trying to find a way to say "know what? I'm good.. Just.. Back off, get out of my life for good and go away..

posted September 01, 2012 04:20 PM            

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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
Pisces. My Sun is exactly in Virgo on the other end. Pluto trines my North Node. And some charts also trine it by chiron (by 9 degrees).

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posted September 01, 2012 05:38 PM            

Best Wishes

posted September 01, 2012 06:31 PM            

Astro.com horoscope:

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"You are energetic and self-assured today, and you feel less helpless and at the mercy of others than is perhaps usually the case - a good time, therefore, for telling someone about your feelings or desires. If at present you have a firm relationship, you can now talk to your partner about needs of yours which, for some reason, you do not like to talk about. The quality of time is on your side, if, for once, you want to act out of character without falling flat on your face. If you are prepared to risk taking such a step, you will observe that you by no means meet with a lack of understanding or a rejection. This influence can also be of significant help with all therapeutic treatments and physical challenges.

The interpretation above is for your transit selected for today: Mars trine Chiron, , exact at 23:35 
activity period fromfrom 31 August 2012 until 3 September 2012"

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