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C1ND3R
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posted September 01, 2012 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C1ND3R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone?

I think it might be the part (or lot) of fortune..

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AriesKat
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posted September 01, 2012 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like body type?

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sand
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posted September 01, 2012 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
really? mine is in capricorn conjunct jupiter. i thought those weren't even tangible fortune lol..

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ail221
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posted September 01, 2012 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
asc and 2nd house

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posted September 01, 2012 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ascendant for sure. It trines my sun-mars-pluto exact, and I have a masculine frame.

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posted September 01, 2012 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like my Venus and moon contribute to my body type

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posted September 02, 2012 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
asc and 2nd house

Yea I agree..... my Venus is in Taurus in the 2nd house....my body type is more like a Taurus, than Aries

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SagittariusRising
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posted September 02, 2012 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SagittariusRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought it was the ASC and planets conjunct the ASC or in the 1st House?

I have obviously, Sag ASC conjunct Uranus and Eros. I also have Jupiter/Neptune in the 1st. I have a larger frame with large hands/feet. Sag ruling the thighs/legs is soooo true! I used to get sexually harassed in the worst way over my muscular thighs, LOL! I think that Uranus conj. my ASC really give me a far-out, quirky appearance. Neptune in the 1st gives me a very changeable look, fluidity in my appearance. I look different in almost every set of pics I take.

I've also heard that Venus in aspect to the Sun/Moon/ASC helps make for a more beauteous appearance.

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posted September 02, 2012 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moonfish:
Ascendant for sure. It trines my sun-mars-pluto exact, and I have a masculine frame.


OMG Moonfish you do not have a masculine frame, I have seen your pic! lol

Anyways! lol I have always thought the ASC was more of the exterior appearance as far as looks and mannerisms and such. 2nd House makes more sense to me as far as the actual "physical" body type and frame.

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posted September 02, 2012 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look for ASC and ruler of the 1st house. I've also heard people mention Mercury and Mars, and even the Moon sign o_o Idk about that.

Supposedly if your chart is water sign heavy, you will be voluptuous or on the bigger side, earth signs are sturdy or built, fire signs and air signs are leaner, and maybe fire signs are more masculine while air is androgynous.

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posted September 02, 2012 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@TheManticore
No I really do
see? (going to delete, and yes i'm wearing spongebob bottoms lol)

I don't have any planets in the 2nd house, but that could be true

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posted September 02, 2012 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd agree with ASC and ruler I also posted a whole post about this on this forum from a actual book that describes how body type and appearene are attributed in astrology. Maybe I can find it...

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posted September 02, 2012 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check this out:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/000749.html

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posted September 02, 2012 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you seen this site? http://www.astro-visions.com/snapintro.html
There's also a book by Judith Hill called Astrological Body Types.
The Asc sign is a good start but there's more to it.

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vertiver
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posted September 02, 2012 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake... NICE!

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DNA prevails! There are lots of Gemini Native Americans, but few blonde haired ones.

Yes!!!

I get annoyed by the fact that astro appearence descriptions neglect the fact that not everyone is white!

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posted September 02, 2012 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ail221:
asc and 2nd house

cool no wonder i rook rike my dad. he has a 5 planet sag stellium. my 2nd house is sadge.

but i'm very textbook scorpio rising despite my race and stuff. there have been other scorpio ascendants in the family. i at least know of one. my grandfather.

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posted September 02, 2012 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moonfish:
@TheManticore
No I really do
see? (going to delete, and yes i'm wearing spongebob bottoms lol)

I don't have any planets in the 2nd house, but that could be true



Still think you are not lol

You are just toned, that doesn't mean "masculine". Not to mention you look like you are about 5'5, you have a very petite frame.

Btw spongebob is da BOMB! lol

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posted September 02, 2012 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ascendant and what touches it==planet wise and asteroid wise. Lilith conj the ASC is a very sexy person. Eros conjunct the ASC is a very erotic person. Venus trine the ASC is a pretty person etc

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posted September 02, 2012 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's ascendant!
I got ascendant conjuction moon in pisces 1.31
but idk if the 2nd house actually brings physical appearance... doesn't it represent possessions/money and the senses?? now I do have the porta fortune in the 2nd house but I don't think it brings more fortune to my appearance, i just think it gives me more fortune in possessions only. Venus in the 1st house would be a fortunate placement for appearance

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posted September 02, 2012 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I meant was, yes the outer appearance of the person is the ASC, but the 2nd House may be more of like the physical makeup of the body, in a very "matter" sort of way. Like its substance vs appearance.

Like ummm... the earth for example. The crust of the earth is the thin outer layer, like the ASC, and the 2nd House is more like the mantle, the meat under the skin so to speak.

Am I making any sense? lol

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posted September 02, 2012 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2nd house may come to represent physical frame because your ASC progresses to your 2nd house sign as you get older.

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posted September 02, 2012 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TheManticore:
Like its substance vs appearance.

Substance can be seen through values that H2 bestows - H2 is a continuation,of course,but appearance is H1,first and foremost.

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posted September 02, 2012 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyFavouriteName     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm, My asc in leo square pluto trine moon? i'm not sure.

2nd house? mars? mercury? i really don't know, but i don't consider myself a big presence at all.

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C1ND3R
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posted September 02, 2012 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C1ND3R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The part of fortune is calculated using the sun, ascendant and moon so it's all three... I think that may be an accumulation of em all and i wondered since the part of fortune in charts looks a lot like the symbol for earth.

I wonder if anyone has really looked into this in depth. Because i'm curious and devouring the google as i try to find an answer.

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Ann7
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posted September 02, 2012 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami Anne, what would Juno and ceres (especially ceres) conjunct the ascendent mean?

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