posted September 03, 2012 04:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Sugarplum:
I have retro Saturn in the 2nd and I struggle with financial problems...

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Mine is Retro Saturn in the 2nd, too.

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posted September 03, 2012 04:50 PM            

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posted September 03, 2012 04:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I will be back to look at your post, when I have more time to devote to it, Alabaster dear.

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posted September 03, 2012 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by MyFavouriteName:
5th house. i have issues in this area.

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Do you care to elaborate?

posted September 03, 2012 05:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Have groups been hard? Have you had a feeling of being discouraged about your hopes and dreams, also?

I have had BIG issues with groups and all the attention being directed at me although it's something I secretly enjoy. I was quite the clown when I grew up but then something happened and I became very shy. As for hopes and dreams, yes, I feel discouraged and very insecure but most of all just frustrated since I know what I want to do I could do very, very well.

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posted September 03, 2012 05:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I see Aeline, so yours is in not feeling free with your creativity. Would that sum it up?

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posted September 03, 2012 05:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Aeline:
Yeah, that would. But only in expressing ideas verbally, as i am good at drawing, for example, and writing as well. Lets say - i have good imagination. My NN also here, so i'll just have to overcome my Saturn placement.

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Makes sense. If it is verbal does Saturn do anything to Mercury like make a square or opposition?

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posted September 03, 2012 05:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do you care to elaborate?

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i can feel guilty and have difficulty enjoying fun or being creative (which counts as fun for me) when i know there is other things to do. i'm always feeling they have to be done first.

2ndly, i'm plagued with many self doubts about my creative ability, i'm essentially afraid of trying.

it doesnt help having mr saturn square the moon and venus, with practical mars/mercury in virgo siding with it against the fire.

posted September 03, 2012 06:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Makes sense. If it is verbal does Saturn do anything to Mercury like make a square or opposition?

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posted September 03, 2012 06:14 PM            

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Originally posted by MyFavouriteName:
i can feel guilty and have difficulty enjoying fun or being creative (which counts as fun for me) when i know there is other things to do. i'm always feeling they have to be done first.

2ndly, i'm plagued with many self doubts about my creative ability, i'm essentially afraid of trying.

it doesnt help having mr saturn square the moon and venus, with practical mars/mercury in virgo siding with it against the fire.

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Yep, sounds hard. What is funny is that I have an easy chart and I feel I have so many things to overcome. I can't imagine a hard chart. HOWEVER, mine gets hard when next to my mothers in synastry. Then, it gets quite hard.

I don't really know what to make of this, as my struggles with my mother should have shown in the natal more.

I guess they did in the Child Asteroid which is conjunct Deja but at 4 degrees, thank Goodness.
I don't know why my relationship with my mother did not show up in my chart( without looking at the synastry with her)
Any ideas?

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posted September 03, 2012 06:38 PM            

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posted September 03, 2012 06:49 PM            

talked a little about it - http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/215016.html

...that was also my return to Astrology after a 4 months break - and back then, I was dealing with Saturn in more ways then one - was dealing with a form of anxiety/depression and even tho - i already dabbled with western astrology version back in February, at the time when i made that topic - i found that vedic interpretation "which seemed appropriate for my mood" - couldn't think clearly cause of the state i was in, yet that applied mostly to "positive thinking" - cause i was doing pretty well at finding sources (mostly - unjustified) - that could lower my morale even more...

posted September 03, 2012 10:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreamweaver:
Hi amiann, I've always wondered about saturn in the 2nd house too as most of the astrology descriptions re struggle with money also do not apply to me. My saturn is in Gemini and I guess if anything I can be both generous and frugal with money. I am definitely not attached to money/possessions but maybe a little careless? I don't think I have major self esteem issues anymore but did when I was in my teens. If you have any suggestions, I would like to learn more about this placement as this lesson seems to evade me...

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Well, the money woes don't relate to me. I am not too frugal or too generous. I am pretty balanced with money. I have an earth void, so maybe I am not earth bound.

I have had to build my self esteem up from a low place, so the self esteem part fits with me.

For you, if neither fits, are you sure your chart is right, time wise? If so, maybe you just really matured, fast

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posted September 04, 2012 07:55 AM            

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Originally posted by midnight sun:
I have saturn in third house. Learning is hard process. What other people spend few hourse on I take twice the time to really make sure I fully understand. I'm an A student and now I got scholarship. People around me think I got it easy. I don't say what I don't mean and I like to cut to the chase which makes me sometimes come across like cold person. Now while writting I'm trying to make sure my english is proper since I'm not an everyday english speaker.
I have also neptune uranus and node in the 3h I'm wondering whats the effect of saturn on them?

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Is the NN is the 3rd. If so, mastering the 3rd house and it's sign is one of your life purposes. Does Neptune or Uranus conjunct Saturn. If so, how close?

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posted September 04, 2012 04:24 PM            

I am generous with others, like I think Ami is, because I have been blessed and I can afford to be. I am not obsessed with making the bank account grow. If I can help someone out now, I will.

posted September 04, 2012 05:05 PM            

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Originally posted by crabbypatty:
I, too, have Saturn in the 2nd. I have never had money problems. My father, although frugal in many respects, set me up to have a decent career so that I could take care of myself. I also ended up with a husband who made decent money. I should do ok in the divorce.

I am generous with others, like I think Ami is, because I have been blessed and I can afford to be. I am not obsessed with making the bank account grow. If I can help someone out now, I will.

Definitely have had huge issues with self esteem since pre-adolescence. Body issues, and feeling like I'm not fun enough, not bubbly enough, not popular enough. The poster who wrote about being on the beach in shorts and a t-shirt... that's very similar to me. And the joke is, looking back on it, I was relatively good looking in my earlier years. Definitely didn't appreciate that in myself back then.

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Awww

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posted September 04, 2012 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Have you struggled to find a spirituality/ relationship with God?

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