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Topic: bad taste
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RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 3927 From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 13, 2012 05:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by sand: do u know anyone who has obvious BT? i don't mean cliche or boring or conventional but rly bad IYO of course. do u know their chart?
I notice that Sags often tend to either not care about fashion at all, and just throw something on, or else wear some crazy things. On the other hand, though, I do know one Sag who wears some outrageous things sometimes and usually makes it work. Sometimes it doesn't work, but everyone has a clunker outfit now and then. My mom is a Sag sun and hates fashion/dressing up; it bores her at best. My dad is also a Sag, and while his own style is simple, he does appreciate style a bit more. We share an affinity for the retro-inspired looks and fashion from the past; he often tells me about things people wore back in the day and wishes that people dressed with that kind of class now (he's a Taurus moon). So, he may not be super-into fashion for himself, but he appreciates it. I know one odd example of someone who has a good eye for accessories, but is hit-and-miss with clothing (at least not women's). Two personal planets in Sag. I'd say that the worst taste people, out of those I know, have been Aquarius and Sag. They are people who can most easily pull off something outlandish, but often, they go a bit too far. A lot of Pisces and Aquarius people that I've known have been into goth looks. While some (not all, but some) of the goth looks could be cool if they were toned down/polished a bit/done in a more mature and grown-up way, again, people I've known have gone overboard with it. I think that a lot of times it's how you do a look that matters. You can incorporate things you like without getting too nuts about it or being garish. I think that's where some struggle--how to wear things they like without going too far. If people would tone things down and do what they like in a more polished way, it would look better and still be something they like. Stacy and Clinton do that well on "What Not to Wear" and their contributors look so much better when they're done. IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Moderator Posts: 1601 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 13, 2012 08:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: gosh. i really hate when people say this.
RAS omg how do you disagree with that? IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Moderator Posts: 1601 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 13, 2012 08:32 AM
My boyfriend will dress crazy. I can sense it... I don't believe in fashion; everyone has their own culture and values, comes from a different society, etc. My chiron conjuncts sun + asc IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 3215 From: GMT-5 Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 13, 2012 08:36 AM
quote: i meant more aesthetics..
So like, looking bad, not being put together, and/or being a slob? quote: gosh. i really hate when people say this.
I won't even lie, if what you're wearing doesn't look good, that's a minus to me. Like, if I'm to be seen with you, at least take pride in how you look, ya know? Sure everyone has their own style and tastes, but it comes to a point of looking good and just being...no. I'm going to agree with RegardesPlatero on the Aquarius thing. I usually find they like to look "normal" at best - plain or dark colours, not much for graphics or prints, simple jeans and hoodies. But amowls** is an Aquarius and she's a hot an' stylin' mofo! IP: Logged |
C1ND3R Knowflake Posts: 540 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 13, 2012 08:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by violet7887: lol and there is nothing wrong with that, you'd just have to loose those shorts in the evening.
Evening? ....lol IP: Logged |
C1ND3R Knowflake Posts: 540 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 13, 2012 08:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: I don't need tight pants to do that lmao.
I love any topic with both of u guys in it lol IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 3215 From: GMT-5 Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 13, 2012 09:09 AM
quote: another fashion trend that baffles me is guys wearing skinny jeans, but women seem to like it.
I think a large part of fashion and looking good is feeling good, being confident. Like, I used to have this shirt: My mom and dad both thought it was over the top, but they supported me being flashy (considering our dead end town at the time!) Is it over the top? F!ck yeah! Is it ugly? Maybe! But I'd wear it and love it and people always complimented me! Then someone spilled motherf!cking bleach on it and it was ruined beyond saving... IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 6152 From: Rehab Registered: May 2011
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posted September 13, 2012 11:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by RegardesPlatero: I notice that Sags often tend to either not care about fashion at all, and just throw something on, or else wear some crazy things. On the other hand, though, I do know one Sag who wears some outrageous things sometimes and usually makes it work. Sometimes it doesn't work, but everyone has a clunker outfit now and then. My mom is a Sag sun and hates fashion/dressing up; it bores her at best. My dad is also a Sag, and while his own style is simple, he does appreciate style a bit more. We share an affinity for the retro-inspired looks and fashion from the past; he often tells me about things people wore back in the day and wishes that people dressed with that kind of class now (he's a Taurus moon). So, he may not be super-into fashion for himself, but he appreciates it.
you mean only the sag women? i think sag males have great style just right.. the sag women i know if they have big boobs ur gonna know they have them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_jyNYMzcQE&feature=related IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 6152 From: Rehab Registered: May 2011
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posted September 13, 2012 11:41 AM
quote: So like, looking bad, not being put together, and/or being a slob?
nah doesn't have to be fashion.. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 6152 From: Rehab Registered: May 2011
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posted September 13, 2012 11:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by C1ND3R: I love any topic with both of u guys in it lol
ewww.. aqua and taurus should be opposites! it's like wallstreet vs. occupy wallstreet! JK! IP: Logged |
Gray Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 13, 2012 11:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: gosh. i really hate when people say this.
Simple fact of the matter is though, that it's true. Everybody has a different idea of what is or isn't acceptable or attractive, so there is no one universal standard of 'good taste' - which is why I think you can't 'see' something like that in a chart. But being judgmental and picky about other people's taste can probably be seen, and would be indicated by something like Virgo placements; maybe even Saturn or Pluto activity, for the need to consider yourself the final authority on what is or isn't okay or pleasing, and then trying to force those views on the rest of the populace and expecting them to fall in line with that in order to please you. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 6152 From: Rehab Registered: May 2011
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posted September 13, 2012 11:46 AM
wait i just remembered something..VENUS OPPOSITE SATURN?? yes? no? IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 3215 From: GMT-5 Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 13, 2012 11:47 AM
^Are you asking where your "bad taste" comes from...? 'Cause any one who has a crown obvs can't have bad taste IP: Logged |
amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1840 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted September 13, 2012 11:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gray: Simple fact of the matter is though, that it's true. Everybody has a different idea of what is or isn't acceptable or attractive, so there is no one universal standard of 'good taste' - which is why I think you can't 'see' something like that in a chart.But being judgmental and picky about other people's taste can probably be seen, and would be indicated by something like Virgo placements; maybe even Saturn or Pluto activity, for the need to consider yourself the final authority on what is or isn't okay or pleasing, and then trying to force those views on the rest of the populace and expecting them to fall in line with that in order to please you.
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RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 3215 From: GMT-5 Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 13, 2012 11:57 AM
quote: there is no one universal standard of 'good taste' - which is why I think you can't 'see' something like that in a chart
There is no universal standard, yes, but what about the collective? If someone has an eye for picking out or designing what will be more accepted as beautiful or stylish, does that person have overall better taste than someone who doesn't know what will be widely regarded as nice? Everyone is different, but everyone is also similar to someone else at one point or another. So if someone can appeal to more people, that's what I think might be considered good taste. Thoughts, opinions, arguments? IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 3927 From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 13, 2012 01:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand: it's like wallstreet vs. occupy wallstreet! JK!
hahaha so true IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 3927 From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 13, 2012 01:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by RedScorp: There is no universal standard, yes, but what about the collective? If someone has an eye for picking out or designing what will be more accepted as beautiful or stylish, does that person have overall better taste than someone who doesn't know what will be widely regarded as nice?Everyone is different, but everyone is also similar to someone else at one point or another. So if someone can appeal to more people, that's what I think might be considered good taste. Thoughts, opinions, arguments?
Agreed. There may be variances about what's "beautiful", but I would say that a few aspects/parts of it would be universal/near-universal. Example: ripped clothes, or clothes with stains, or clothes that don't flatter a figure: those would always be ugly. There is no way you can defend those things; they would be ugly and tacky no matter what. And, too, even clothes that some find "beautiful" might still be in poor taste, even if someone likes them. I think, too, that people can appreciate good taste, even when something is not their particular style. To me, bad taste will stand out as ugly, whereas simply different taste will at least be appreciated by those who don't wear those styles. Generally, as I said, I like classic things that don't go out of style. Part of good taste for me is restraint and, if I can use a Project Runway-ism, "knowing how to edit". Knowing when and where to be more bold and where to be more muted is important. The right accessory can be used in the wrong ways. A bold print used correctly can make an outfit interesting; used the wrong way, it can be overwhelming. Fit is very important, too, as is knowing your body type: clothes that might look good/be tasteful might not work with your body type, and so you have to work with what you've got rather than just wearing what you like if it doesn't look good on you. Being able to pair one item with many different things and get a lot of use out of it is another good skill to have. That's another part of taste: knowing how to wear something. I would say that someone who knows how to put things together has more taste than someone who doesn't, but someone can improve their taste, I think. I know mine has gotten better after having been to France and after having started watching "What Not to Wear", and reading fashion articles/looking at pictures. I always like to improve. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4153 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 13, 2012 02:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand: ewww.. aqua and taurus should be opposites! it's like wallstreet vs. occupy wallstreet! JK!
lol I haven't stole any laptops..yet! IP: Logged |
virgolotus Knowflake Posts: 503 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 13, 2012 06:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: gosh. i really hate when people say this.
you would.. IP: Logged |
virgolotus Knowflake Posts: 503 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 13, 2012 06:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand: ^it's so u can show moose knuckle (male version of camel toe) i don't own a pair btw.
Hahahhaahaa! I've never heard the male version of camel toe. Thanks for teaching me something new :3 IP: Logged |
amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1840 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted September 13, 2012 08:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by RedScorp: There is no universal standard, yes, but what about the collective? If someone has an eye for picking out or designing what will be more accepted as beautiful or stylish, does that person have overall better taste than someone who doesn't know what will be widely regarded as nice?Everyone is different, but everyone is also similar to someone else at one point or another. So if someone can appeal to more people, that's what I think might be considered good taste. Thoughts, opinions, arguments?
I mean, there is often a disconnect between mainstream/low brow taste and high brow taste. ie: The same dresses that get bad ratings on Fashion Police (that horrible E! show) will often end up on the best dressed list according to Vogue. Who has better taste? If you asked the average yahoo on the street what they think of the latest Yohji Yamamoto collection, they'd probably say "EW why would ANYONE wear that?!" while the NYT fashion critic will rave about it. Just because something has universal appeal, doesn't mean it's necessarily better. IP: Logged |
amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1840 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted September 13, 2012 08:25 PM
quote: There may be variances about what's "beautiful", but I would say that a few aspects/parts of it would be universal/near-universal. Example: ripped clothes, or clothes with stains, or clothes that don't flatter a figure: those would always be ugly. There is no way you can defend those things; they would be ugly and tacky no matter what. And, too, even clothes that some find "beautiful" might still be in poor taste, even if someone likes them.
This is from the Balmain Spring 2010 collection, it was highly regarded. Mainstream tastes also change. When skinny jeans first came back in 2004, most people thought they were ugly and unflattering. Now they're the standard silhouette for jeans. Same with low waisted vs high waisted pants. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4153 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 13, 2012 08:30 PM
edible underwear taste good, but are they fashionable? would they be considered good taste or bad taste?IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 6152 From: Rehab Registered: May 2011
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posted September 13, 2012 10:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: edible underwear taste good, but are they fashionable? would they be considered good taste or bad taste?
those are bad just like flavored condoms. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 3927 From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 14, 2012 06:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by amowls**: This is from the Balmain Spring 2010 collection, it was highly regarded. Mainstream tastes also change. When skinny jeans first came back in 2004, most people thought they were ugly and unflattering. Now they're the standard silhouette for jeans. Same with low waisted vs high waisted pants.
I don't mean to insult you, but the outfit doesn't appeal to me at all. It does not please my eyes one bit. It displeases me. I do not like that sort of thing. It may be "fashion", but it doesn't do anything for me. Again, I don't wish to hurt your feelings, and hope that I haven't, but it just is not my taste, and I'm trying to be tactful but honest.
Skinny jeans, I don't like those, either. I like a nice trouser cut--straight, wider leg, more flattering. Skinny jeans work on very few people; even when a person can wear them, frankly, I don't think they look nice. Higher-waisted pants are more flattering than low; lower waists lower the torso and make you look shorter. Plus, too low, and you get a whole lot of crack (and not the powdery kind). It just doesn't appeal to me. I think, too, that it has to be said that fashion in a magazine/on a runway is different than street fashion. You can get away with more crazy in a magazine/on a runway, whereas it wouldn't work in real life (except maybe some of the more glamorous outfits could be worn by celebrities on the red carpet). IP: Logged |