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11nahyt
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posted September 21, 2012 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AriesKat:
unless they try to manipulate me which almost never happens

^^THIS!... people always say scorpios are the master "manipulators" of the zodiac. well i disagree. the pisces men i've met, or those with moon or venus in pisces, have been the most manipulative people i've ever met. sometimes, its as if they just do it without realizing, or just doing it just because they can (and tend to get away with it with most people). scorpio manipulation, is usually done with a justifiable motive.but with pisces, it's like giving a gun to a baby.. they just use their awesome manipulation skills, just because. that's why its been a mega fail with me and pisces men so far. i see right through their pleasant faces, and "pleasant" behavior, and pleasant this, pleasant that crap lol. my temper is too bad for that sh*t

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posted September 21, 2012 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for finnomia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saggy>Leo=Aries

I have a friend who is Saggy sun+Leo moon+Aries rising, plus a MARS in 1st house. Gosh, she is total ON FIRE everyday.

I am Aries(combined Taurus and Pisces traits), many of my friends are fire signs.
Being with Saggy is easy, they're talkative, no need to think topics.

Leo is warm, Aries is energetic, they all sunny buy kinda too self-concentration, which becomes sort of arrogant and blind....

For social charming, I'd vote saggy.
For love relationship, I'd vote Leo.

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posted September 21, 2012 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 11nahyt:

i feel as a libra, i should be an entitled to have myself an aries male without the offensive ego. lol


You do know Aries and Libra share similar personality traits right? :laugh:

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posted September 21, 2012 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it must be Leo sun and gemini moon. The biggest swindlers in the history had this sun and moon combination. Without charming traits that would be impossible to realize...

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posted September 21, 2012 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
that is a real life example. I've seen that with a lot of aries ive met. but of course aries can never admit their own faults. And that's not something i read in an astro site either. It's something i see all the time.

EDIT: I just read what 11nahyt posted. Yes, so true!


I see my faults, more often than I see my good points.

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posted September 21, 2012 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
^How about...they are so busy doing things and going through with actions that they don't realize who they're trampling or pushing aside? With fire, though, hardly anything is malicious.

Ummmm....i thought i was falling in love....now im questioning my affections.....Red Scorp! Hugs ..kiss kiss!

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posted September 21, 2012 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
You do know Aries and Libra share similar personality traits right? :laugh:

well i think that depends on their natal placements.i have a hard time believing a full aries ( like multiple aries placements) would be "similar" to a full libra (especially opposite sexes). if anything imo, they'd prob just balance each other out(the whole, lacking what each other needs yada yada) or completely dislike each other lol. they are Opposites after all.the word similarities, sounds more like a "trines/sextile" kind of thing imo. similarities i think would happen if say, libra had aries/fire placments, or strong mars. and aries also having libra/venus/air placements. in my case there have been enough dissimilarities, to cause a great deal of discord.really just the their ego's and excessive selfishness that has been my issue so far. but then my synastry with them, has shown that as well. lots of squares/oppositions.that doesn't mean i've given up on aries males though LOL. im confident i'll eventually meet an ego-less (or at least a less offensive ego) aries male. the aries females i've met, did have ego issues,but not like the aries men i've known. so it doesn't really bother me lol

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posted September 21, 2012 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slummer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by awakemer:
I think leo because it tends to get away with having an ego more so than the other signs.. and is often friendlier and more tactful than the other signs. Ok so I am a leo and i'm just wanting more compliments j /k

I'm a Leo too but that's not why I agree with you.

Besides, ego and being a jerk are two different things and don't necessarily come hand in hand. You can be arrogant and think you're awesome, without it being at other people's expense, and in my experience, that's how most Leos are.

Aries are too hostile and combative and competitive to be charming - they always feel the need to try and assert dominance just for the hell of it.

Sag is too much of a prick to be charming - they'll pretty much say anything and have absolutely no concern about how it affects the person they're speaking to, and somehow think that it's cute or endearing and that if the other person has a problem with it, something is wrong with THEM. They lack basic empathy and a lot of times seem inherently incapable of grasping that other people's feelings matter too and it's not all about them. There's also that side of them that is very self-righteous and condescending, and that doesn't win them any friends either. I know a few people with Sag prominent in their charts, and while they're all popular with others in a general sense - they don't really have many true, close friends, and I suspect it's because of the issues I just mentioned above, not a whole lot of people really want to deal with them for extended periods of time.

Leos are cocky sure, but our hearts are big and if we like you or care for you (in any context), we'll pretty much go to the wall and make fools of ourselves for you. We give as much as we take, and the giving is genuine. So I think that makes Leos the most charming of the fire signs, because out of the three, we're the least self-oriented.

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posted September 21, 2012 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MonicaS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's Leo of course ...on the top
Then sagii
Then Aries

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posted September 21, 2012 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
hmm, the mixture of aries/pisces sounds very appealing lol. pisces are suppose to be compassionate, considerate and sweet, and artsy. combining that with aries? sounds perfect. seems like it would also tone down the ego too.

natal chart aspects seem to be a huge factor because i know an aries with pisces moon cancer rising who is ego on legs. very difficult to deal with, will start arguments with people in public, has a huge temper, talks about himself endlessly.

i also know an aries sun pisces moon venus and mars and though he is into yoga and meditation and being accepting of everyone, he himself is a hot head, also talks about himself endlessly, has a chauvinistic attitudes, walks with a huge "i think im hot shiz" smirk on his face

now my aries friend with pisces moon friend ive never even seen be inconsiderate and he always has deep conversations with everyone and seems very patient and kind. he has a lot of pluto aspects

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posted September 21, 2012 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Slummer:
ego and being a jerk are two different things and don't necessarily come hand in hand. You can be arrogant and think you're awesome, without it being at other people's expense, and in my experience, that's how most Leos are.


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Originally posted by Slummer:
There's also that side of them that is very self-righteous and condescending, and that doesn't win them any friends either. I know a few people with Sag prominent in their charts, and while they're all popular with others in a general sense - they don't really have many true, close friends, and I suspect it's because of the issues I just mentioned above, not a whole lot of people really want to deal with them for extended periods of time.

i like sags alot(as friends,even though alot of the guys can be absurdly good looking LOL). but this is very true with most of the ones i've met. very popular folks,very intellectual, but they've never seemed to be surrounded by friends that are connected in a more emotional way.. and it can def be exhausting being their friend LOL.too popular, and emotionally detached for me.

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Originally posted by Slummer:
Leos are cocky sure, but our hearts are big and if we like you or care for you (in any context), we'll pretty much go to the wall and make fools of ourselves for you. We give as much as we take, and the giving is genuine. So I think that makes Leos the most charming of the fire signs, because out of the three, we're the least self-oriented.

which is why i love em! (so far...). they'll make a fool out of themselves, as long as they know you wont leave em hanging (NEVER do that).

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posted September 21, 2012 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
now my aries friend with pisces moon friend ive never even seen be inconsiderate and he always has deep conversations with everyone and seems very patient and kind. he has a lot of pluto aspects

ahhh... pluto. pluto gets such a bad rep (i guess if you lack pluto, it may be too much to handle), but seriously, i've yet to meet a plutonian i didn't adore. but then again i have strong pluto in my chart, so of course lol.

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posted September 21, 2012 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
ahhh... pluto. pluto gets such a bad rep (i guess if you lack pluto, it may be too much to handle), but seriously, i've yet to meet a plutonian i didn't adore. but then again i have strong pluto in my chart, so of course lol.


totally agree, and me too

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posted September 21, 2012 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus in Leo and i do have a lot of Leos in my entourage but i can't relate with the term "charming" and Leos... they try to much - so much that they loose their charm along the way... and that's probably the curse of every Leo. I can find them charming "from distance" or if it's mostly about "occasional meetings" - once i get accommodated around Leos, they tend to loose their charm if they take off their Mask (and maybe that's what people find charming about them).

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posted September 21, 2012 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyFavouriteName     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
hmm, maybe it's the combination of your aries moon opposing (by aspect or sign) your venus libra, that's causing you to feel like a contradiction? those placements are also likely to form conjunctions and oppositions with an aries too. which would most likely increase the "opposing" feeling.

i believe that is the astrological reason i suggest

theres gotta be some things about aries that you like???
but i also meant the differences between aries and leo, as i am definitely a joblot of both. throw in some saggy/gemini type of energy in the mix, as my venus sits in 3rd, and moon in the 9th, both square jupiter.

i usually always love libra and aries suns, sun venus.. it seems most the time their suns always seem to be aware that they are able to charm me, even if they are displaying either traits sometimes that **** me off, the same ones i don't like or get frustrated with about myself.

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posted September 21, 2012 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i believe that is the astrological reason i suggest

theres gotta be some things about aries that you like???
but i also meant the differences between aries and leo, as i am definitely a joblot of both. throw in some saggy/gemini type of energy in the mix, as my venus sits in 3rd, and moon in the 9th, both square jupiter.

i usually always love libra and aries suns, sun venus.. it seems most the time their suns always seem to be aware that they are able to charm me, even if they are displaying either traits sometimes that **** me off, the same ones i don't like or get frustrated with about myself.


I just wanted to point out that she did say she loved aries and that they are nearly perfect, if only they never showed an arrogant side.

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posted September 21, 2012 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 21, 2012 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I just wanted to point out that she did say she loved aries and that they are nearly perfect, if only they never showed an arrogant side.



or at least, a less "serious" arrogance. that would make it less offensive for me lol. and also the lack of consideration is repulsive. like slummer said.

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You can be arrogant and think you're awesome, without it being at other people's expense,


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posted September 21, 2012 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by frankie2912:
As someone with a Sag moon, merc, saturn, and uranus, I'm gonna go with SAGITTARIUS


You are purely brilliant, like gifted, have you had your IQ tested...i bet you and Einstein are neck n neck!!

Coming from someone with sag sun/merc/nep!!
And i would know because i have leo saturn and aries jupiter, so i have an inside perspective on all 3....and you are sooooo correct, saggy wins! Your very smart!

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posted September 21, 2012 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
I'll say Leo is the most charming. Everything must leave an impression with Leo, whereas Sagittarius is busy galavanting about and Aries doesn't have the mind to want to charm people.

But even when we gallivanting away, were cute! I know you watch saggy as they leave, because its still a good show! And by the time we come back, youve forgiven us! Cuz were just THAT cute!

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posted September 22, 2012 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
I have Venus in Leo and i do have a lot of Leos in my entourage but i can't relate with the term "charming" and Leos... they try to much - so much that they loose their charm along the way... and that's probably the curse of every Leo. I can find them charming "from distance" or if it's mostly about "occasional meetings" - once i get accommodated around Leos, they tend to loose their charm if they take off their Mask (and maybe that's what people find charming about them).

Sometimes they go too far or try too hard but to me thats part of their charm. Idk I'm a Aries so I guess I naturally get on with them. Funny thing is I don't attract a ton of them im just close to a few. They are really helpful and just fun to be around. My new coworker is a Leo and he is a joy To be around and def has my back so far, he's protective of me and I just met him.

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posted September 22, 2012 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think it must be Leo sun and gemini moon. The biggest swindlers in the history had this sun and moon combination. Without charming traits that would be impossible to realize...

My Dad has this combo along with a guy I dated. Its a weird combo for a Leo Sun, very unemotional. My Dad isn't the most charming guy but the guy I dated was pretty charming. He was intellectual - which works better with Gemini Moon. We're both English literature majors.

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posted September 22, 2012 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AriesKat:
Sometimes they go too far or try too hard but to me thats part of their charm. Idk I'm a Aries so I guess I naturally get on with them. Funny thing is I don't attract a ton of them im just close to a few. They are really helpful and just fun to be around. My new coworker is a Leo and he is a joy To be around and def has my back so far, he's protective of me and I just met him.


Unless your a shy Leo Sun like me. I'm charming in a subtle way. And I'd say I get along with Aries women but not so much with the men.

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posted September 22, 2012 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vertiver:
Unless your a shy Leo Sun like me. I'm charming in a subtle way. And I'd say I get along with Aries women but not so much with the men.

Same here, I find that Aries women do not even show the Aries traits the same way as Aries men do lol. Like, the Aries women I've met were always generous with their family and close friends. Aries men were too, but way too overbearing for me to stay in their presence too long...

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posted September 22, 2012 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:
Same here, I find that Aries women do not even show the Aries traits the same way as Aries men do lol. Like, the Aries women I've met were always generous with their family and close friends. Aries men were too, but way too overbearing for me to stay in their presence too long...

yeah! why is that!! i get along fabulously with aries women! but not *some* of the guys. for the exact reasons you said for both.

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