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TheManticore
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posted September 23, 2012 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just met this Cancer woman and I am trying my best to show her that I am trustworthy and dependable but she has a very hard shell . Anyone have any advice on how I could better convince her to open up to me more?

Also, if she does, what will be the signs/signals I should look for in her behavior towards me?

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posted September 23, 2012 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slummer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You...just met her.

Time would work wonders, as in giving her a chance to get to know you and suss out whether or not she wants to be bothered with you long-term.

Mars in Cancer female, here. So I know what I'm talking about.

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posted September 23, 2012 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Earning a Cancer's trust takes a while so be prepared for the wait. Take her to a puppy store win over her childish side.

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posted September 23, 2012 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You...just met her.


True, let me rephrase that . I just met her 2 weeks ago lol .

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posted September 23, 2012 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
Earning a Cancer's trust takes a while so be prepared for the wait. Take her to a puppy store win over her childish side.

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lol thanks Ice Queen!

So do you think doing lots of "cutesy" things like that will make her feel more comfortable?

I'm ready for the wait, I hope lol . Luckily snakes are very patient

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posted September 23, 2012 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slummer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TheManticore:

True, let me rephrase that . I just met her 2 weeks ago lol .


Even that's not really a long time, when it comes to really knowing someone and whether or not you can trust them. That's a long process. You either have to be willing to be patient or find someone else who moves fast enough for you.

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posted September 23, 2012 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slummer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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lol thanks Ice Queen!

So do you think doing lots of "cutesy" things like that will make her feel more comfortable?

I'm ready for the wait, I hope lol . Luckily snakes are very patient


Ice Queen? Seriously? She's never struck me as icy, more as one of those people who feigns that whole "I don't care" schtick because they think it makes them look tough and intimidates people - self-defense mechanism, basically. Especially in the young.

Not saying this as a form of attack (I don't know 221 to like or dislike them), or even to derail the thread, I'm just always fascinated by how two people can interpret events/people/whatever and get a totally different 'read'. Maybe it's because I'm (probably) older than you, I dunno.

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posted September 23, 2012 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TheManticore:

lol thanks Ice Queen!

So do you think doing lots of "cutesy" things like that will make her feel more comfortable?

I'm ready for the wait, I hope lol . Luckily snakes are very patient


Making her laugh will work too, act like a dork, not necessarily "cutesy" but all female cancers I know even the men love animals, its like KRYPTONITE . Showing you have the ability to be affectionate with something you don't necessarily have to be affectionate with will make her comfortable.

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posted September 23, 2012 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Even that's not really a long time, when it comes to really knowing someone and whether or not you can trust them. That's a long process. You either have to be willing to be patient or find someone else who moves fast enough for you.


That's true. So slow long haul, got it

The ironic thing is that that is one of the things I like about it, it is progressing with a more natural flow. I have had the "fast" experience before and that never ends well .

Any opinion on signs I should look for that she is opening up??

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posted September 23, 2012 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ice Queen? Seriously? She's never struck me as icy, more as one of those people who feigns that whole "I don't care" schtick because they think it makes them look tough and intimidates people - self-defense mechanism, basically. Especially in the young.

Not saying this as a form of attack (I don't know 221 to like or dislike them), or even to derail the thread, I'm just always fascinated by how two people can interpret events/people/whatever and get a totally different 'read'. Maybe it's because I'm (probably) older than you, I dunno.



Ummm I think you misinterpreted my intention with that statement

I called her "Ice Queen" because she called herself that towards me in a previous thread. It is sort of an inside joke . I was in no way insulting her.

Anyways, I don't see how age is relevant?

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posted September 23, 2012 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Making her laugh will work too, act like a dork, not necessarily "cutesy" but all female cancers I know even the men love animals, its like KRYPTONITE . Showing you have the ability to be affectionate with something you don't necessarily have to be affectionate with will make her comfortable.


OOooo, great ideas . Well I love animals also . Making her laugh and acting like a dork should not be too difficult for me lol

I'll ask you this also, any opinion on signs I should look for that she is opening up?

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posted September 23, 2012 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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OOooo, great ideas . Well I love animals also . Making her laugh and acting like a dork should not be too difficult for me lol

I'll ask you this also, any opinion on signs I should look for that she is opening up?


She'll touch you more, play with your hair, touch your arm etc. She won't flinch like a crab surprised in the sand if you touch her. She's be more emotionally comfortable with you, cancers of have a tenacity of feeling other people can't feel is deep as they can or they can't understand the depth of their personality therefore they console instead of letting themselves be consoled by someone else.

She won't mind taking time out from her personal "shell" to spend time with you. Cancers love alone time, so if she's willing to cut her own alone time in order to be with you, she probably likes you.

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posted September 23, 2012 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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She'll touch you more, play with your hair, touch your arm etc. She won't flinch like a crab surprised in the sand if you touch her. She's be more emotionally comfortable with you, cancers of have a tenacity of feeling other people can't feel is deep as they can or they can't understand the depth of their personality therefore they console instead of letting themselves be consoled by someone else.

She won't mind taking time out from her personal "shell" to spend time with you. Cancers love alone time, so if she's willing to cut her own alone time in order to be with you, she probably likes you.



Great information, mucho thanks

Also she has told me about a lot of the bad things that have happened in her past, would you say that is a sign? or is she still being platonic? I am talking about really deep and painful experiences here. When she talks about them though she doesn't get emotional or anything, so I'm not sure. Maybe she is testing to see how I react to them?

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posted September 23, 2012 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Yup it sounds like it!

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posted September 23, 2012 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^Yup it sounds like it!


That she is testing? or that she is opening up?

It is really strange when she talks about them because she talks about it very robotically without showing her feelings. She is probably trying to protect herself no doubt?

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posted September 23, 2012 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That she is testing? or that she is opening up?

It is really strange when she talks about them because she talks about it very robotically without showing her feelings. She is probably trying to protect herself no doubt?


She could be doing both, quite honestly. Everything is kinda a test up until she feels completely comfortable around you. There not end all to be all tests, there just measuring what you can handle. Regardless if she's opening up about something thats very personal and caused her pain in the past she's probably interested in you. In general most people aren't overly emotional about things that caused them pain in the past unless they feel that wound hasn't healed. Her's probably did she's just being open to you about her past.

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posted September 23, 2012 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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She could be doing both, quite honestly. Everything is kinda a test up until she feels completely comfortable around you. There not end all to be all tests, there just measuring what you can handle. Regardless if she's opening up about something thats very personal and caused her pain in the past she's probably interested in you. In general most people aren't overly emotional about things that caused them pain in the past unless they feel that wound hasn't healed. Her's probably did she's just being open to you about her past.


Well I guess I am doing better than I may have thought . I have handled everything she has brought up just fine so far, I think she is slowly presenting the depth of what has happened to her to me. She may think if she presents it too quickly I will be scared off?

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posted September 23, 2012 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well I guess I am doing better than I may have thought . I have handled everything she has brought up just fine so far, I think she is slowly presenting the depth of what has happened to her to me. She may think if she presents it too quickly I will be scared off?


Again not necessarily some people just aren't open books, besides you only met her two weeks ago that fact that she's willing to so open with you is a good thing. Cancers are still Cardinal signs despite the stereotypical of being endless puddles of "feelings". If you really want to find out how to take things to the next level with her look up her moon, venus and mars.

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posted September 23, 2012 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You...just met her.

Time would work wonders, as in giving her a chance to get to know you and suss out whether or not she wants to be bothered with you long-term.

Mars in Cancer female, here. So I know what I'm talking about.


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posted September 23, 2012 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Even that's not really a long time, when it comes to really knowing someone and whether or not you can trust them. That's a long process. You either have to be willing to be patient or find someone else who moves fast enough for you.

Agreed. That is NOT a long time at all. There are people that I've known for YEARS that I still do not feel close to or trust deeply. In all honesty, I really don't feel close to anybody at the moment. Even the people who are closest to me are still not in the inner circles. They might think so, but not all of them are actually there. And there will always be parts of me that no one but God can ever see or hear or touch or perceive.

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posted September 23, 2012 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That she is testing? or that she is opening up?

It is really strange when she talks about them because she talks about it very robotically without showing her feelings. She is probably trying to protect herself no doubt?


I'm like that too.

I would say that it's for a few reasons:

--I've already gotten emotional about them before.

--If I tell someone about things, I usually have been planning to do so for awhile, so I'm prepared and have rehearsed it mentally.

--I don't like crying in front of people.

--Sometimes when things hurt I feel numb, empty, detached, and lifeless. Other times I feel intense. Sometimes I feel both at different times.

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posted September 23, 2012 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Again not necessarily some people just aren't open books, besides you only met her two weeks ago that fact that she's willing to so open with you is a good thing. Cancers are still Cardinal signs despite the stereotypical of being endless puddles of "feelings". If you really want to find out how to take things to the next level with her look up her moon, venus and mars.

I agree, thanks again for your insights ail221

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posted September 23, 2012 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheManticore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@RegardesPlatero

Thank you RegardesPlatero for responding , I'm assuming you're a Cancer woman yourself?

I agree it is not that long, but I have seen her quite a bit in that amount of time.

The reasons you stated are interesting, I think she is probably a little bit of all of them . If she has been rehearsing it mentally then she is amazing at delivery because it seemed to me that all of it was on the fly. Would you say that Cancer women plan things like that often? (assuming you are a Cancer )

Also, what in your opinion would be signs I should look for? Good or bad.

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Based simply on Sun sign alone it is hard to say. Also, age/experience can be a factor too, like someone mentioned, mainly because this can be the difference between how quickly the shell comes down and how hard it is.

Besides puppies and laughing (two points that admittedly work for me ) I would just make sure that what you say and what you do are the same thing. Don't try to impress her with something if it's not you - it will backfire.

And honestly, if she really likes you, trust me, you'll know

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posted September 23, 2012 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@RegardesPlatero

Thank you RegardesPlatero for responding , I'm assuming you're a Cancer woman yourself?

I agree it is not that long, but I have seen her quite a bit in that amount of time.

The reasons you stated are interesting, I think she is probably a little bit of all of them . If she has been rehearsing it mentally then she is amazing at delivery because it seemed to me that all of it was on the fly. Would you say that Cancer women plan things like that often? (assuming you are a Cancer )

Also, what in your opinion would be signs I should look for? Good or bad.


I'm not a Cancer sun, but a Cancer moon.

As for planning, I do tend to do that with personal revelations. I think a lot about it in my head (and, in general, enjoy imagining/wondering how I would handle hypothetical situations, so I do think about things a lot; my mind is just always active, even when I'm so lazy that I don't even want to use the microwave lol--I go back and forth between being a burn-the-candle-at-both-ends person and being a couch potato; it alternates depending on my mood and the situation/day).

I hate being unprepared, ungraceful/clumsy, and caught off guard. I like to think about things and plan ahead.

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