posted September 24, 2012 06:43 PM            

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Originally posted by LionFish:
My DSC is Aquarius. No planets in my 7th house. Uranus is in Sag in my 5H, who's natural Leo ruler happens to be my ASC.

I don't feel like I ignore any of this..anymore. My Sun is in Pisces and it's the ruler of my chart. My feelings/wants are very important to me and if they are not all met I tend to distance myself (run away) from the person or situation that seems to be hindering me.

I love quirky, independent, vibrant people. All but two of my love interests has been a Leo. And my Pisces sun LOVES to dote on them, but it wears me down eventually because I start thinking that their need/want for attention is doubt for my feelings. And I hate having to prove myself all the time. Which is why I've sworn them off as anything but wonderful friends lol
I'd never been in a relationship with an Aquarius until my current one. They had always been my most loved/cherished friends though. My dad was an Aquarius through and through and he was my best friend while he was alive.

My current relationship, my Fiance is an Aqua Sun conj my DSC with Sag rising. I'd say he fits every part of my 7th house needs and wants. His Mars is trine my Sun, so he even activates my chart ruler and I get my Leo fix from myself haha. I'm so smitten it's disgusting.

Up until I met this man though, I'd have to agree with you, that I was picking out bits and pieces (unknowingly) that gave me what I wanted/needed, but only part of it. Which explains the "Gosh I'm happy but it just feels like something is missing" feeling.

I think that if a person is lucky enough to meet another that fills all this criteria ie: your DSC, it ruler's placement in house/sign, true ruler of that house/sign and aspects between those signs and planets in synastry...It's not a common thing and the draw to that person will be from the core of your being because well, they complete you

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posted September 24, 2012 06:55 PM            

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Originally posted by redshift:
I'm always really interested by dsc and 5,7,8H discussions about attraction!

My Dsc is cancer with no other planets in the 7H. Dsc ruler, the Moon is in Virgo in the 5H. I don't seem to be attracted to cancer traits at all really. Virgo on the other hand...I tend to really go for Virgo rising or Virgo suns as friends and often am attracted to men with that really clean and noble look of a virgo, but not so much personality wise.

With Cancer ruling the 4H, mine is empty. It's in Taurus, which I usually don't get along with in any placement. It seems like my dsc indicates everything I steer clear of!

Anyone I've been involved with romantically has had a strong Leo or Scorpio sun or moon placement. I want my dsc to indicate something clear, but so far, I haven't figured it out.

ETA: I was just thinking that my dsc ruler is in my 8H, which also contains Pluto. Maybe that's where I get the heavy attraction to Scorpio moons? Plus my sun is in Scorpio.

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I'm a little confused by something in your post. You have a Cancer Dsc with Moon in Virgo in the 5th? Is this a typo? Do you mean Moon in Virgo in the 8th? That would explain an attraction to Scorpio energy.

And if you have Leo partly in the 7th house, and on the cusp of the 8th house this will attract you as well. Our 8th and 5th houses attract us romantically, along with the 7th house (but that's a whole other thread).

posted September 24, 2012 06:57 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
2nd house sag. ruled by jupiter in cap.

so sag/ cap influenced women..

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posted September 24, 2012 07:01 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
So my DSC is ruled by Sagittarius, and my 9th house is ruled by Aquarius. I do think Aquarius' are the perfect partners for me! But snagging one, my god... I would need an army to wrangle them down and drag them to my lair. It's even hard to get them to be a consistent friend although when they are around you they make you feel special and like they truly care.

Anyway, so have Aquarius in the 9th house, Uranus in the 7th house (But in Capricorn) and Moon in the 11th house (as well as an Aries stellium there - Sun, Merc, Venus) trine Uranus. What say you Lotis? That I will most likely marry an Aquarius?

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posted September 24, 2012 08:14 PM            

I do like Neptune and Uranus people. I have really liked some Pisces and Aquarius. In the big 3. Eh, and Capricorn. My longest relationship with was with a capricorn. And I was in love with capricorn rising from 15-19.

posted September 24, 2012 08:14 PM            

I do like Neptune and Uranus people. I have really liked some Pisces and Aquarius. In the big 3. Eh, and Capricorn. My longest relationship with was with a capricorn. And I was in love with capricorn rising from 15-19.

posted September 24, 2012 08:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Sounds like your likely to get some combo of Sag, Cap, Aqua and Pisces... Also what is your Jupiter doing? It's your original Dsc ruler.

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I'm repelled by actual Sags, but do find comfort with Cap, Aqua, Pisces.

posted September 24, 2012 10:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
I'm a little confused by something in your post. You have a Cancer Dsc with Moon in Virgo in the 5th? Is this a typo? Do you mean Moon in Virgo in the 8th? That would explain an attraction to Scorpio energy.

And if you have Leo partly in the 7th house, and on the cusp of the 8th house this will attract you as well. Our 8th and 5th houses attract us romantically, along with the 7th house (but that's a whole other thread).

For more detail on your 7th you'd look at your 4th house, but not just the sign on the cusp of the 4th (Taurus)... Also look what Venus is doing in your chart by sign, house and aspect. This will add to the picture of your attraction pattern as well.

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Yes, sorry. Cancer dsc w moon in Virgo in 8H. So yeah, I figured that explained the Scorp attraction and yes, Leo is mostly in the 7H with the cusp of the 8H in leo also.

Looking at the 4H in taurus, like you said, it's empty, but it's ruler, Venus is in the 12th house in Cap and is square Pluto. That bit is a little confusing to me. I do tend to have a fatal attraction to Pisces, which may be coming from that venus in the 12th house. Also, maybe the venus square pluto adds to the attraction to intense scorpio moons...very interesting!

posted September 25, 2012 01:35 AM            

however, ruler of my 7th house is of course Mercury in Sagittarius conjunct Sun, which makes SAG way stronger for me.

Secondary 7th house has Aquarius on the 3rd house cusp with Uranus in Scorpio on the cusp of 11th house.
Interestingly in both my parents uranus-Pluto-constellations are strong so I can even see that reflect a family-dynamic.

posted September 25, 2012 01:37 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I'm repelled by actual Sags, but do find comfort with Cap, Aqua, Pisces.

Jupiter is in Gemini in the 12th house! And Mercury is in the 11th (but in Aries.)

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Where are your moon and Venus, Sun and Mars?

posted September 25, 2012 03:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Where are your moon and Venus, Sun and Mars?

(I think your non-attraction to Sag energy might have to do with the general mixing of sign energies. I have a similiar thing, Gemini on DESC but this huge Stellium in Sag, since the ruler of DESC is in Sag in 1st house, it clearly indicates that I am drawn to people who mirror me, therefore I prefer Sag to Geminis)

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Moon in Taurus is in the 11th, Venus in Aries in the 11th, and Mars in Gemini in the 12th but the 12th is ruled by Taurus, who's ruler is in the 11th.

posted September 25, 2012 03:36 AM            

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Wow, how awesome for you that you found your match! I'm looking for everything that you've described for myself... You know, that feeling that you've found just the right match. I love learning about personal stories like this.

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It is pretty awesome

You'll find it!! Or it will find you!! I feel like he found me to be honest. And no, even with the awesome synastry/composite charts we have, not everything is sunshine and roses because life can't always be, but even in the worst times I can't think of anybody who I'd rather have by my side.

I don't know if I believe in "the one." Only because: how many other people were born at the same time on the same day as my fiance? Granted not in the same place so the Ascendant would differ and placements may be off by a few degrees, but they would be very similar. Would I feel the same way about all of them? Oh the secrets of astrology. But then again, that Ascendant placement of his is important.. My Aquarian ruled DSC is ruled by Uranus in Sag...He's an Aquarius with Sag Ascendant. Quite literally a Uranus in Sag ) it's like he's the human embodiment of my chart's Descendant ruler. I'd never noticed that until now.

posted September 25, 2012 04:04 AM            

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(I think your non-attraction to Sag energy might have to do with the general mixing of sign energies. I have a similiar thing, Gemini on DESC but this huge Stellium in Sag, since the ruler of DESC is in Sag in 1st house, it clearly indicates that I am drawn to people who mirror me, therefore I prefer Sag to Geminis)

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So, Jupiter - ruler of my DSC is in the 12th house... I'm drawn to people who can give me things, who can teach me about spirituality or simply people I have a spiritual connection with?

You know what's funny is now that I look back on it, I claim I don't have a type BUT I do like my guys to be a little meaty! Jupiter would have something to do with that right?

posted September 25, 2012 05:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Secondary 7th house has Aquarius on the 3rd house cusp with Uranus in Scorpio on the cusp of 11th house.
Interestingly in both my parents uranus-Pluto-constellations are strong so I can even see that reflect a family-dynamic.

Would you consider the traditional ruler of Aquarius (Saturn in Cancer in 8th house) as well? Or that Jupiter is in 3rd house? Or that Neptune is the intercepted ruler of 3rd house and lands in Sagittarius again?

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posted September 25, 2012 06:02 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Moon in Taurus is in the 11th, Venus in Aries in the 11th, and Mars in Gemini in the 12th but the 12th is ruled by Taurus, who's ruler is in the 11th.

I didn't mention those because I thought this was framed around the 7th house, and the DSC.

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Hmm, interesting. Well, the Taurus Moon can`t really do anything with Sag energy (I find quinkunx signs often to be quite difficult to combine, doesn´t mean there is no intrigue, but just so little common ground, and as a matter of fact often Taurus-guys are a bit of a red flag for me; my Sag-planets just can`t do anything with Taurus-Suns. Taurus-Moons are a different matter for me though. Anyway I disgress).

You`ve got an emphasis on the transpersonal houses (11 and 12) and I wonder if it has an influence on you getting along better with Aqua and Pisces.
Yes I know, houses and signs are not the same, but I still find them to make for a subtle connection.

Venus in Aries should theoretically get along with Sag energy, but "getting along with" and "being attracted to" is not always the same thing.

mars in Gemini is the opposite sign of Sagittarius - yes opposites *can* attract, yet in my case I find that even though Gemini is the opposite my Sag-qualities, I don´t find them appealing for closer relationships at all.
Though I need and crave strong Mercury.

do you find that Jupiter-aspects are important for you in terms of synastry?

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BTW I said I don´t like "Geminis" for relationships. Well, of course it really depends on their general planetary mix as well. But so far it really hasn´t happened.

posted September 25, 2012 06:05 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
So, Jupiter - ruler of my DSC is in the 12th house... I'm drawn to people who can give me things, who can teach me about spirituality or simply people I have a spiritual connection with?

You know what's funny is now that I look back on it, I claim I don't have a type BUT I do like my guys to be a little meaty! Jupiter would have something to do with that right?

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Yes, I think so. jupiter likes things "big". Though it depends on the signplacement of Jupiter I guess. Jupiter in Cap might not be really meaty.

posted September 25, 2012 06:08 AM            

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Originally posted by LionFish:
how many other people were born at the same time on the same day as my fiance? Granted not in the same place so the Ascendant would differ and placements may be off by a few degrees, but they would be very similar.

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not many. And a few minutes difference, a different place of birth make a whole lot of difference.

I know that we rely mostly on the planets in signs and aspects and so on, but honestly, I think that is a bit of a compromise. It is still good enough, but nowwhere as individual as it could be, if we knew the birthtime.

posted September 25, 2012 06:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Yes. I look at everything in relation to both the primary and secondary 7th house. I believe that modern rulers are dominant but that the traditional ruler still has a sub influence on the sign.

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Yes, I thought so. Though I`d like to know how do you keep control of your priorities?

posted September 25, 2012 06:34 AM            

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not many. And a few minutes difference, a different place of birth make a whole lot of difference.

I know that we rely mostly on the planets in signs and aspects and so on, but honestly, I think that is a bit of a compromise. It is still good enough, but nowwhere as individual as it could be, if we knew the birthtime.

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posted September 25, 2012 08:06 AM            

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Yes, I thought so. Though I`d like to know how do you keep control of your priorities?

What I mean is how do you weigh these things?

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The funny thing is that when it comes to this, I don't prioritize. My perspective astrologically is that everything in the chart is significant and has meaning. It just depends on who you encounter, and how they light up your various attraction pattern potentials.

In my chart I’ve got the same theme repeating over and over. I feel like my chart is very obvious in describing what I like… Other people might be more diverse then me though, and are totally capable of going for several different personality types that are vastly different from each other. That’s hard for me to imagine because I have a definitive ‘type’, but for some people this is what happens. And yet others are like more like me, with similar patterns repeating all over the 5th, 7th , and 8th primary and secondary. As well as with Venus and Mars, primary and secondary (house associated with the sign of Venus for men, and Mars for women). And with the Vertex Axis.

In the case of your chart, you usually would not fall for a Gemini Sun, and perhaps you never will… But the fact that you have a Gemini Dsc means that this is not impossible… Especially if he had, say, Sag rising, a Sag Moon, and maybe a Capricorn Mars conjunct your Venus, and some type of Pluto thing going on.

What I have noticed is the people will prioritize certain parts of their attraction pattern, over certain other parts, in their own minds.

Like if two different people both have a Leo Dsc with Saturn in the 7th, and the Sun in Pisces 2nd house… One person may prioritize Pisces and Capricorn over Leo in their minds as more attractive, while the other person with the same configuration in their charts, will decide that they much prefer Leo and Taurus to Pisces and Capricorn.

So far to me this phenomenon of mentally prioritizing certain parts of the attraction pattern, over certain other parts, seems kind of random and unpredictable… I think you do have a point about it having to do with how the 7th house configuration relates to the rest of the chart. But in some people, I’ve also noticed that they seem to ‘rebel’ against their own chart and go for the part of their 7th house that is least like themselves.

Another thing I think might be affecting this phenomenon is what people experience, and who people encounter in their early lives. Like if someone has an Aries Dsc, but their high school rival was also an Aries, this experience may make them think they don’t like Aries, even if the potential to do so exists in their chart. The reverse could be true if they’d had a positive encounter with Aries in early life. Sometimes merely not having a significant encounter with that sign at all, might also make a person think that a particular sign is not their type, even if that potential exists in their chart.

I’m starting to think that it’s a combination of actual life experience, and how the 7th house relates to the rest of the chart, that determines how a person will prioritize within their attraction pattern. Either this, or there’s some astrological reason for this that hasn’t been figured out yet. Part of the reason for this thread is that I’m looking at how people are prioritizing within their 7th house attraction pattern, and hoping to find some clues as to why they have prioritized the way that they have.

In the case of my own chart, I can actually see how my entire attraction pattern works if you look beyond the sun sign thing. Like in the case of my secondary 7th house being Aquarius ruled by Uranus in Scorpio, and co-ruled by Saturn in Virgo… By Sun sign alone none of these signs have really caught my attention. But personal planets in Scorpio and Aqua certainly have. Also, Aquarius’ more masculine ruler is Uranus in Scorpio, while it’s more feminine ruler is Saturn in Virgo. Men with a Scorpio influence somewhere really appeal to me, while I do also have an affinity of sorts for Virgo women.

Recently, I’ve been playing around with the idea that with signs that have both a traditional ruler and a modern ruler, the more outgoing planet relates to males, and the more reserved planet relates to females. At least in a house rulership type of way, if we were looking at the rulers of the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses. That being said, I wouldn’t want to be too rigid in applying this idea as I’m still in the early stages of playing around with it. I need to do more research. What I suspect at this point is that the outgoing planet usually refers to males, while the reserved planet usually refers to females, but that this is a generalized tendency rather then a mutually exclusive thing. The outgoing planet may not always refer to only men, while the reserved planet may not always refer to only women… They just often do.

What this means is that if a straight female has a Pisces Dsc, it might be worth her while to also look at what Jupiter is doing in her chart in relation to the men she attracts. A straight male, though, would probably do fine just looking at Neptune. Although, I’d probably look at both just to be sure.

And to be clear here’s what I mean by outgoing ruler, and reserved ruler…

Scorpio… Outgoing Ruler=Mars, Reserved Ruler= Pluto.

Aquarius… Outgoing Ruler=Uranus, Reserved Ruler=Saturn.

Pisces… Outgoing Ruler=Jupiter, Reserved Ruler=Neptune.

posted September 25, 2012 11:43 AM            

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Hmm, interesting. Well, the Taurus Moon can`t really do anything with Sag energy (I find quinkunx signs often to be quite difficult to combine, doesn´t mean there is no intrigue, but just so little common ground, and as a matter of fact often Taurus-guys are a bit of a red flag for me; my Sag-planets just can`t do anything with Taurus-Suns. Taurus-Moons are a different matter for me though. Anyway I disgress).

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Heck no, it can't do anything. Of course, I can talk to Sags and be fine...most of the time. But there are some that are quite pushy and it unsettles my Taurus moon (which is strongly aspected to the 7th, trine Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune in there all in Cap)!! I usually like or attract Scorpios with Sag energy though.

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You`ve got an emphasis on the transpersonal houses (11 and 12) and I wonder if it has an influence on you getting along better with Aqua and Pisces.
Yes I know, houses and signs are not the same, but I still find them to make for a subtle connection.

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Oh hey, I'd be the last one to correct you on astrology. I've been on this forum about a year I think and still consider myself a beginner.

I LOVE Aquas! And a few months ago I noticed nearly everyone around me was an Aquarius/Pisces combination. It was freaky.

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mars in Gemini is the opposite sign of Sagittarius - yes opposites *can* attract, yet in my case I find that even though Gemini is the opposite my Sag-qualities, I don´t find them appealing for closer relationships at all.
Though I need and crave strong Mercury.

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Exactly! I was going to say I like Sags initially but long-term? NO. I think Capricorn, Aquarius or Pisces (or Scorpio, Cancer) are the only ones who could handle me long-term, and me them. Aquarius sun would be my top pick.

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do you find that Jupiter-aspects are important for you in terms of synastry?

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Important how? I do notice I feel more at ease when there's Moon square Jupiter. We laugh a lot and have a good time together, which most likely ensures spending more time together.

Also wanted to add that I *need* a compatible mercury, as I think it's my chart ruler. So far the most compatible ones have been Merc in Gemini and Merc in Leo.

posted September 25, 2012 08:02 PM            

Thanks for the very clear explanation of why your feel you like what you do. It helped give me some food for thought. Especially the part about your Moon trining your 7th house stellium, and liking jupiter/Moon aspects.

posted September 26, 2012 01:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Hannaramaa,

Thanks for the very clear explanation of why your feel you like what you do. It helped give me some food for thought. Especially the part about your Moon trining your 7th house stellium, and liking jupiter/Moon aspects.

Just out of curiosity, does your Capricorn Stellium tightly aspect your Taurus Moon? or is it just a trine by sign? Would you mind telling the degrees of your Uranus, Neptune, Saturn, and Moon. Perhaps this has some impact on your taste... Do you feel that planet aspecting your Moon most tightly features more significantly in your taste?

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I think it's just trine by sign, because my moon is allll the way in the 11th house at 9.57 degrees. S, U, and N are all in the 7th. Saturn is at 13.44 degrees, Uranus at 5.20 degrees, and Neptune at 12.22