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Topic: People who attract relationships to them easily vs those who don't: aspects ?
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ueharaa
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posted October 13, 2012 05:13 PM
  
This may sound like a weird question, but after much considerations, I have come to the conclusion that there are people who just have an easier time meeting potential soulmates while to others, being in a relationship requires a lot of work on their part because they have to go and look out for this person.
Some people just have love falling into their laps with them doing nothing for it, while others have to struggle and strive to find it. Why is it so?
At first I was thinking it might be something some of these people do or don't. But in the end it just seems to be that way for the first and this other way for the latest. As if it was just fate, and it didn't depend upon them at all. So, what in a chart would indicate this, either someone having a hard time meeting the "right" person, making romance and relationship opportunities scarce or someone finding love easily (or actually love finding them easily) to the point that they don't even spend a lot of time single and searching (I know many people like this, and it's quite amazing the easiness with which they just find someone who they fall for and falls for them, if they ever happen to be single they won't remain so for long and I know they're not just being in a relationship out of fear of being alone). I am honestly clueless as to what to look for in a chart for this. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 13, 2012 07:32 PM
Saturn and Uranus in the 7th speaking from personal experience  IP: Logged |
CRCRINCON
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posted October 13, 2012 09:38 PM
I have Saturn in 7th and have rarely been single in my life. Married twice. IP: Logged |
ueharaa
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posted October 13, 2012 10:23 PM
I wonder if it is possible to find a sure signature pointing to this but anyway here are some charts of people who qualify to either or one of those:First chart is the one of a guy who has barely spent 6 months single ever since he started dating. He is the person I know that has the highest number of long, committed relationship (not just fling but the kind that last over a year)
He has a one year relationship at 13. Then had another one at 14. (which is slightly amazing considering how guys and girls this age just date for fun and usually relationships don't last over 6 months). At 15 he started a 4 years relationship which ended abruptly. He was very hurt. 2 months later, at 19, he is in another relationship. I thought it would be just a rebound considering how he was still getting over the previous one but it wasn't. It also lasted 4 years (and ended some months ago). I was quite surprise to see that they had broken up.
Anyway, here is his chart, and the birth time is accurate:
ASTROADR by nausicaa7f, on Flickr Just for information, he isn't a womanizer, super attractive, super funny, and witty kind of guy. He honestly is average. Many girls had a thing for him when he was a young teen but that was it. He does tend to fall in love easily, sometimes with many girls at once. The second chart is the one of a girl who also seems to just have a thing for long and stable relationships. She was in a 4 years relationship from 16 to 20. They considered marrying each other. But somehow things ended. And just like the guy above, 3 months after she wasn't with her boyfriend anymore, she was in an other relationship. I honestly thought it was just rebound, or trying to make her ex bf jealous because he had someone else but I was wrong , seeing as they're still going strong: here is her chart, I don't have her birth time though:
ASTRODEB by nausicaa7f, on Flickr Another friend of mine, it is a bit different for her though. She's had 4 relationships up until now, but none of them are long enough to be considered what I call long term and committed and stable. The reason for this though is that her parents were very restrictive towards her and dating. Still she has many suitors. As in wherever she goes, some guy will be trying to make her his girlfriend (and not just hook up, or a fling !) here is a chart I don't have a time of birth but I know she's a libra rising:
ASTROMER by nausicaa7f, on Flickr The last one is my aunt's chart. She's 46, never been married, never dated, never been in a relationship and zero history when it comes to men. It seems that she has never met anyone whom she loved enough to be willing to have a love life with. It is really sad because I know it'not like she had chosen to be single. (I mean some people make that choice but she never did say that she wanted to remain alone and have no children). Yet however, despite this, she's had a share of suitors. She was considered to be extremely beautiful in her younger years and many guys had asked her out, only to be rejected. Some men even went straight to her parents house and asked for her hand! (I know it sounds unbelievable but this is the kind of effect she had on people, some would even offer jewels and some would stalk her). I am not really sure what caused her to always be so cold to them
here is her chart, I don't have her time of birth but I highly suspect her to either e a liba or scorpio rising.
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anonymidarkness
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posted October 13, 2012 10:28 PM
I am a loner but I find love easily.I dont even have to make much effort.I just have to show up near them and they approach me.I have had more girlfriends than real friends.My venus is in pisces in 5th house trine jupiter in scorpio,conjunct pisces sun and saturn.IP: Logged |
greatquincunx
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posted October 13, 2012 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by CRCRINCON:
I have Saturn in 7th and gave rarely been single in my life. Married twice.
How old were you when you first married?
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ail221
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posted October 13, 2012 10:34 PM
Well looking at the first two charts a Jupiter in the 5th house or Sagittarius ruling the fifth house could be a sign, lucky in love.
First chart has mars and sun in 5th house
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ueharaa
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posted October 13, 2012 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
I am a loner but I find love easily.I dont even have to make much effort.I just have to show up near them and they approach me.I have had more girlfriends than real friends.My venus is in pisces in 5th house trine jupiter in scorpio,conjunct pisces sun and saturn.
So you have sun, venus and saturn in the 5th?
What is your rising sign if you don't mind me asking? IP: Logged |
ueharaa
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posted October 13, 2012 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by ail221:
Well looking at the first two charts a Jupiter in the 5th house or Sagittarius ruling the fifth house could be a sign, lucky in love.
First chart has mars and sun in 5th house
second chart Venus in 9th house
Thanks fro pointing this out. I didn't even notice it, as I was somehow focused on the top of the chart. But it makes perfect sense. Come to think of it, this guy just has everything in his chart pointing to finding relationships easily: jupiter in his 5th house (point to luck in the dating, romance area), sun and mars in the 7th (he is very relationship oriented, he even confessed once that he can not picture his life without a woman in it, also flings and hooking up doesn't interest him, he needs the security of a committed relationship to enjoy sex) and his venus is unaspected (minor aspects aside). I remember reading once that this in a man's chart indicated that there would be many women in their lives.
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CRCRINCON
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posted October 13, 2012 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by greatquincunx:
How old were you when you first married?
Hi greatquincunx. I was married first time a month shy of my 30th bday in 2004. It lasted only 6 months. And second marriage in 2008. First man was abusive. My husband now is wonderful. IP: Logged |
Moonfish
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posted October 13, 2012 11:16 PM
I have venus libra in the 7H and I've pretty much been single my whole life, never been married or intimate.
Venus tri Saturn in 11H and sq Uranus in the 10HIP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted October 13, 2012 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by ueharaa:
So you have sun, venus and saturn in the 5th?
What is your rising sign if you don't mind me asking?
My venus conjuncts mercury as well(forgot to add that).Sun,saturn,mercury are in 4th but are near the end of the house and venus is in 5th.My rising sign is scorpio. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted October 13, 2012 11:45 PM
I know what you mean, my friend married his first girlfriend, they have been together for years, I'll have to look at his chart.IP: Logged |
JLyn ~
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posted October 14, 2012 01:14 AM
I agree with those post saying sun/venus/mars/jupiter in 5th,
5th house is THE infatuation love houseI know a womanizer with sun conjuction venus,
quess that could help bring easy attraction your way
Me?
5th and 7th empty with no aspects to Venus in my natal- They all say I'm attractive but never been married with only 4 real boyfriends
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Sorcha
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posted October 14, 2012 04:03 AM
I know what you mean as well. I fall in to the fate category you mentioned. I have Pluto conjunct Karma in H5. Ruler of my 1st and 5th houses is Mercury which also conjuncts my ASC and trines Pluto/Karma. I can attest to the fact that I never really find people, they find me. We work out our karma and then move on. Never been married even though I wanted to be (2x) a d I have a Jupiter DSC (Jupiter in H12) so perhaps not in the cards for me. Just lots of relationships that inevitably end. Sigh. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 14, 2012 04:49 AM
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Originally posted by CRCRINCON:
I have Saturn in 7th and have rarely been single in my life. Married twice.
What is your 7th ruled by? Also noticed the first time he was abusive which makes me think it was a Saturn-lesson. Has nothing to do with the topic, just throwing it out there lol. Also I have Karma in Sag in the 6th, inconjunct my Moon in the 11th. So... am I like you relationship wise Sorcha? Or does that mean I have a lot of karma with women? IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted October 14, 2012 05:33 AM
Women with Venus/Moon in H11 for easy attraction.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 14, 2012 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Women with Venus/Moon in H11 for easy attraction.
I have that, and I attract people easy but there's no staying power to any of them... yet, anyway. IP: Logged |
ueharaa
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posted October 14, 2012 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by Moonfish:
I have venus libra in the 7H and I've pretty much been single my whole life, never been married or intimate.
Venus tri Saturn in 11H and sq Uranus in the 10H
it's the same for me. I also have venus in the 7th but in aqua.
A trine of venus and saturn probably makes your loving nature contained. It certainly makes you take relationship seriously, which then makes it more difficult to date just for fun. However venus uranus aspect should make for a lively love life (after all elizabeth taylor did have the conjunction) or maybe uranus aspects are more about things happening when you least expect it (and certainly when it's the least convenient) ? Do you have any hard aspects to your 5th and 7th ruler, or some hard aspects to your sun/moon or venus/mars midpoint ? IP: Logged |
ueharaa
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posted October 14, 2012 07:26 AM
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Originally posted by Sorcha:
I know what you mean as well. I fall in to the fate category you mentioned. I have Pluto conjunct Karma in H5. Ruler of my 1st and 5th houses is Mercury which also conjuncts my ASC and trines Pluto/Karma. I can attest to the fact that I never really find people, they find me. We work out our karma and then move on. Never been married even though I wanted to be (2x) a d I have a Jupiter DSC (Jupiter in H12) so perhaps not in the cards for me. Just lots of relationships that inevitably end. Sigh.
I have a similar thing going in my chart. Saturn (my DSC ruler) conjuncts karma in the 6th and they both sextile Pluto in the 5th.
Do you feel like you have some karma to work out with most people who end up being important ? (not just love relationships but also friends and family members)
Because this is really how it feels to me at times, family relationships and friendships are all complicated to me, filled with conflicts and power issues and there just always is the same lesson to learn from them. I also think the karma aspect to my 7th ruler might be why I feel like my love life isn't in my own hands and that I should just wait and see what is in store for me. I feel like if I ever try and force things out I will just encounter even more delays and restrictions.
The ruler of your 7th in your 12th further emphasizes the karmic aspects you described, the 12th house being a karmic house. I am not sure as to how the 12th house planets play out in regards to the house it rules. And maybe having relationship karma to work out isn't so bad because after dealing with "bad" karma, you may be rewarded with "good" karma (it could work out this way right?) IP: Logged |
Dreaming111
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posted October 14, 2012 02:45 PM
Your aunt has saturn in the 5th house and chiron. I think, maybe the saturn is restrictive to her....she has rules and list of who she would open her heart to. She makes it a task for men to get to her and win her over. Now with chiron in her 5th...I bet she was hurt in the romance sector and so she cannot let herself get in that situation so easily, the pain/discomfort is palpable. She might have even seen a couple go through tons of strife romantically and absorbed that negative feeling. But in her life, friends really fill the gap and provid a thrilling ride. IP: Logged |
Dreaming111
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posted October 14, 2012 02:47 PM
With the first chart, what struck me is his venus and mercury in the same house. Generally men with this placement have a tendency to be ruled or controlled by women....and they enjoy this. They can also be easily manipulated by women. Having this combo in the 8th means that it is vital to his soul transformation.
Jupiter in his 5th means of course that he would have plenty of opportunity in romance, but with south node in ketu....marriage will not come to him easily.
His virgo sun and mars in the 7th explains why he needs security to enjoy a relationship and why he holds on... IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted October 14, 2012 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by ueharaa:
Thanks fro pointing this out. I didn't even notice it, as I was somehow focused on the top of the chart. But it makes perfect sense. Come to think of it, this guy just has everything in his chart pointing to finding relationships easily: jupiter in his 5th house (point to luck in the dating, romance area), sun and mars in the 7th (he is very relationship oriented, he even confessed once that he can not picture his life without a woman in it, also flings and hooking up doesn't interest him, he needs the security of a committed relationship to enjoy sex) and his venus is unaspected (minor aspects aside). I remember reading once that this in a man's chart indicated that there would be many women in their lives.
I have read that too that a man will have many relationships. I have no 5th or 7th house planets so my love life is meh.
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ueharaa
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posted October 14, 2012 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Your aunt has saturn in the 5th house and chiron. I think, maybe the saturn is restrictive to her....she has rules and list of who she would open her heart to. She makes it a task for men to get to her and win her over. Now with chiron in her 5th...I bet she was hurt in the romance sector and so she cannot let herself get in that situation so easily, the pain/discomfort is palpable. She might have even seen a couple go through tons of strife romantically and absorbed that negative feeling. But in her life, friends really fill the gap and provid a thrilling ride.
Wow, this is so accurately spot on ! You just explained where her issues lied!
She is just like you described actually, she has very high standards and a very loooong check list of how a man should be for her to consider a relationship with him. From the way he looks, the way he behaves, how educated he s, which job he has and the list go on. She indeed made it extremely hard for anyone of them to actually get close to her (and matter of fact, none of them succeeded). And even more striking is how you said she might have seen a couple go through some strife romantically. She did ! And it was my own mother's relationship with my father, which from the beginning was just conflicts over conflicts, from "I'm leaving you" to I am actually sticking with you even though I know you're no use and good for me. And everytime she would talk about men, she would come to the conclusion that, anyway, she didn't need someone who would simply use her for fun and then leave her alone with some child. She is really scared by the fall down of relationship and has a very negative, skeptic view of it.
It's amazing how you nailed it down so perfectly.
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ueharaa
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posted October 14, 2012 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by ail221:
I have read that too that a man will have many relationships. I have no 5th or 7th house planets so my love life is meh.
I have pluto and mars in my 5th and moon, mercury, venus in the 7th and my love life is meh too. But then mars and venus both quincunx jupiter in the 12th so this might be why. IP: Logged |
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