posted November 08, 2012 10:00 PM            

Astrology is an ancient pseudo science with no empirical evidence to back up its claims.

There is no way to gauge how the planets effect life on Earth.

I no longer even relate to my chart, I no longer care what sign so in so is. And its been the best thing. I am more rational and see things clearly.

If anyone can help convince me otherwise, I'll reconsider.

posted November 08, 2012 10:04 PM            

I will explain why.

I had a relationship with someone and we had 100% amazing synastry....we had every supporting sexual, mental, and emotional connectivity - the feelings where there. We also had an aspect which indicated longevity of the relationship.

posted November 08, 2012 10:24 PM            

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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
I am in the same boat as you.

I will explain why.

I had a relationship with someone and we had 100% amazing synastry....we had every supporting sexual, mental, and emotional connectivity - the feelings where there. We also had an aspect which indicated longevity of the relationship.

Where are we now, you ask? NOWHERE. the person betrayed me, it's gone, it's over. HOWEVER, since we technically were not together "officially" the composite was not allowed to be used, so that would make everything invalid in the composite too.

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I can also relate to this as well. And I don't think it would make the relationship invalid. You can define a relationship any way you want. I would guess that when your relationship was good you were probably looking at all the positive aspects and such that made up the relationship and ignored the negative - if there even were any.

posted November 08, 2012 10:57 PM              

I've always kept astrology at an arms length. I'll go through periods where it seems to play a larger role in my life and then the next minute it loses it's value. I've always been interested in all types of mystical or occult practices and studies and tend to move through each on my journey towards a better universal understanding of the unknown and myself. I try not to take the relationship I have with the occult too seriously. Meaning if I'm feeling disinterested, I allow myself to feel those emotions and to work through them. Time passes and I either came back around or I move on to something else.

I've always used the occult as a way to better make sense of this existence, never to justify or validate it, just to understand more than I already presume to know. I think if you develop an unhealthy/codependent relationship with your mechanism (astrology, numerology, tarot, occult practice, religion etc) for understanding you risk becoming disillusioned by it instead of opening yourself to a greater sense of awareness. Nothing is certain, we've just got to go on what we perceive to be real and true.

posted November 08, 2012 11:05 PM            

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Originally posted by vertiver:
I can also relate to this as well. And I don't think it would make the relationship invalid. You can define a relationship any way you want. I would guess that when your relationship was good you were probably looking at all the positive aspects and such that made up the relationship and ignored the negative - if there even were any.

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There was definitely a relationship, it is true. However, when I looked at the composite transits....they were not indicating that the relationship would come to a halt. That is what weirded me out. Of course there were some negatives in the synastry but I ignored them because I thought it would be a good one for sexual attraction (like sun square pluto) now I realized that his pluto squaring my sun was just him manipulating me the whole time!

posted November 09, 2012 12:10 AM            

I think it works as both! A placebo with truth to it.

If you remember that none of us will ever FULLY understand Astrology you will see that no matter what you will make mistakes in its interpretation. You will be bias and blind to certain things at certain times and no matter what, you will make mistakes with the whole perception vs. reality thing. Maybe when you look back on your chart synastry in a few years you will notice things that you didn't before?

The first thing I thought with your post is that no matter what your two charts looked like together, it couldn't have been perfect. Soul mates, yes! But Soul Mates come and go in a persons life sometimes for Karmic reasons. Perhaps, (like in my instance) he was not willing/ready to take the steps to advance his Self as you are?

posted November 09, 2012 12:24 AM            

I use astrology simply as a general personality analysis. I don't believe in horoscopes or using the planets to predict the future. Astrology should be used in conjunction with a persons upbringing. For example just because a textbook Pisces are made out as overly sensitive, doesn't mean a Pisces named Whomever couldn't be one of the strongest people I know, because they were raised that way. That person's mother could be really strong.

I'm a Virgo Sun, Mercury & Asc & gemini Moon and I don't give a sh*t about perfection. In fact I'm always the one to say "That's fine, it doesn't have to be perfect." I'm a Virgo and i'm NOT a server, sorry to say. I like to lead, and I never have or will be a follower. I like to own things and i have problems with authority. That's not the textbook Virgo is it? I'm Quadruple mutable but have cardinal leadership. I'm this way because my parents raised me to be myself. They let me grow up liking the things I liked, they never expected perfection they just wanted me to do well to do my best.

posted November 09, 2012 12:37 AM            

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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
I am in the same boat as you.

I will explain why.

I had a relationship with someone and we had 100% amazing synastry....we had every supporting sexual, mental, and emotional connectivity - the feelings where there. We also had an aspect which indicated longevity of the relationship.

Where are we now, you ask? NOWHERE. the person betrayed me, it's gone, it's over. HOWEVER, since we technically were not together "officially" the composite was not allowed to be used, so that would make everything invalid in the composite too.

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I also don't use Astrology for compatibility...I'm a virgo and they say were suppose to match taurus, capricorn, cancer, scorpio, pisces..

-Capricorn men & me are attracted but just don't work romantically
-Taurus men I rarely attract
-I can't stand Cancer men romantically or barely friend wise. Never dated one
-Scorpio men MY BEST FRIENDS EVER, but we never get to a romantic stage
-Pisces men ALL my exes are pisces men...well their "exes" so that speaks for itself
-Other Virgos my first loves were one but once again their EXES

now the fire and air signs which they state don't work for virgo are something else for me
-I LOVE and attract LEO & Sagittarius men
-My longest and current relationship is with a Gemini Male,
-Libra men become my close friends also alot
-Aquarius men / Aries Men we've always been cool

Added Note I once made a list of at least 50 VIRGO celebrities and their spouses and they mostly were married to

Sagittarius,Libras, Leos, & Geminis sometimes Aquarius

posted November 09, 2012 01:12 AM              

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Originally posted by pancakes22:
I think there is some truth but alot of placebo like posts around here. "Ya I'm xyz venus...." and the person goes on to explain a textbook description of that sign , like they've convinced themselves that they are those characteristics and take pride in owning it.

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posted November 09, 2012 02:28 AM            

When we put down another all we are doing is delaying OUR EVOLVING by making new negative karma.

So let's lighten up on vertiver as the beginning of a new life path begins for him/her.

Good luck to you vertiver and here is a link that might give some information as to why you are feeling this way at this time.

Many people are having spiritual experiences and are not feeling "normal" as we are currently undergoing an acceleration of karma.

posted November 09, 2012 02:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Blanky:
I think it is a shame that when someone makes a life decision to exclude astrology from their life that some feel they are UNEVOLVED or LACKING IN A SPIRITUAL WAY.

When we put down another all we are doing is delaying OUR EVOLVING by making new negative karma.

So let's lighten up on vertiver as the beginning of a new life path begins for him/her.

Good luck to you vertiver and here is a link that might give some information as to why you are feeling this way at this time.

Many people are having spiritual experiences and are not feeling "normal" as we are currently undergoing an acceleration of karma.

Here is a link that helped me and I hope that it helps you too. Bless you and good luck to you too. I wish you well.
http://www.maya12-21-2012.com/ascension-symptoms.html

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posted November 09, 2012 02:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
So this is how spiritually UNEVOLVED people talk. Interesting.

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posted November 09, 2012 02:46 AM            

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Originally posted by popcorn:
No, Thats the reality. Astrology looks like religion. People who need safety on bad times use astrology or God as help ..
Astrology are still hypoteses and astro people are control people who need control about everything. When people go of all that and got the inner strenght they not need anything of that.. Very evolved people not need any predictions or Gud. They give the trust on their own feelings and the real in the life...

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posted November 09, 2012 02:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Very evolved people don't talk BS like that. Astrology is like a religion? Where did you get that man? LOL!!!!

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Its easy if you know what hypoteses and religion is and also know what you need to make do to take hypoteses into an science...

posted November 09, 2012 02:55 AM            

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Originally posted by popcorn:
Its easy if you know what hypoteses and religion is and what you need to make hypoteses into an science...

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posted November 09, 2012 03:02 AM            

To be fair, the way mainstream people use astrology is generally superficial. It's a fun ice-breaker, a way for people to solidify their self image, or a refuge we can run to which pats us on the back and assures us there is order in the universe. Many of us see astrology as a list of positive and negative descriptive words. When we notice those descriptions don't apply we say, "Oh well, I guess it doesn't work".

Astrology is rich, complex, dynamic, and only reveals its depth after one takes the time to study (like any subject). Astrology is a lot like meteorology or genetics. There are sets of conditions which together, can give way to all kinds of results. Astrologers deepen their understanding to weed out lower probability outcomes and hone in on higher probability outcomes. That never means the astrologer is going to be right 100% of the time. In my opinion the fluidity of life should discourage astrologers from claiming to read people's futures, but that's personal opinion. The universe is not a static place and anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to sell you something. Astrology is not a static art reliant on human personality traits either. It is the experiential mathematics which quantify objective and subjective co-manifestation at any point in space/time.

If you no longer have an interest in astrology, nobody is going to try to convince you to change your mind. There are plenty of other ways to experience one's reality.

posted November 09, 2012 03:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Not being able to physically understand how something works doesn't automatically invalidate that thing. Putting things in perspective, humans are a species 100,000 + years old, on a 4.54 billion year old planet, and we only learned how to wash our hands 200 years ago. There are plenty of unexplained things which will remain unexplained long after you die.

To be fair, the way mainstream people use astrology is generally superficial. It's a fun ice-breaker, a way for people to solidify their self image, or a refuge we can run to which pats us on the back and assures us there is order in the universe. Many of us see astrology as a list of positive and negative descriptive words. When we notice those descriptions don't apply we say, "Oh well, I guess it doesn't work".

Astrology is rich, complex, dynamic, and only reveals its depth after one takes the time to study (like any subject). Astrology is a lot like meteorology or genetics. There are sets of conditions which together, can give way to all kinds of results. Astrologers deepen their understanding to weed out lower probability outcomes and hone in on higher probability outcomes. That never means the astrologer is going to be right 100% of the time. In my opinion the fluidity of life should discourage astrologers from claiming to read people's futures, but that's personal opinion. The universe is not a static place and anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to sell you something. Astrology is not a static art reliant on human personality traits either. It is the experiential mathematics which quantify objective and subjective co-manifestation at any point in space/time.

If you no longer have an interest in astrology, nobody is going to try to convince you to change your mind. There are plenty of other ways to experience one's reality.

Best of luck =)

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posted November 09, 2012 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
So this is how spiritually UNEVOLVED people talk. Interesting.

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How is being skeptical of astrology unevolved?

posted November 09, 2012 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by vertiver:
How is being skeptical of astrology unevolved?

To make assumptions about people is far more unevolved and immature.

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posted November 09, 2012 05:51 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
I view Astrology as more of a Science with a heavy reliance on multiple disciplines i.e. psychology, history, and mathematics.

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