posted August 01, 2022 10:21 AM            

I notice that he (Ricky) and husband have Sun/Saturn parallel. Classic binding aspect for anything long-term like marriage etc.

I just looked at my own composite with an unresolved attraction. And we also have Sat/Sun parallel. But Venus is also parallel to both. So perhaps that would explain why we are just blocked from getting together.

There is some value to the composite. I personally don't use it often. But I wouldn't say its invalid.

With Dad,there is Ura/Ven/Sun parallel aspect that would explain our complicated relationship. Not a good one.

Mom & i have strong Sat "binding" aspects.Sun/Moon/Merc/Ven and Sat.And she has been a supportive force for all my life.

posted September 05, 2023 07:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
Personally, I find no valid in any of my progressed charts, even if there is this option in astro.com. If you want to know about the future, first and foremost you need to put a lot of love in your chart and then press the button that says "+ with transits."

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I don’t know what to go with, anymore. I went through a phase of obsessing over charts, but I’m never going to be an astrologer.

My sun progressed to my moon, Venus, and south node conjunct the 8th cusp, square mars in Pisces in the 4th. My sister was engaged, and got married four months later. This was supposed to be an amazing progression for me, and it only brought stress, broken relationships, and even violence to myself. Everyone else was Gucci. It came to me via my sister, who married her boyfriend that sexually harassed me, and kept causing trouble between us.

posted September 05, 2023 09:43 AM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Are you sure you are Venusian? Like, sorry for this to be a personal comment, but you seem so unpleasant, how could anyone stand you.

People have presented comment after comment of astrological input yet you decide to just not listen at all? Why are you even on a forum if you don't care to hear the voice of others?

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posted September 06, 2023 11:14 AM            

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> Hi all,
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> I was looking at the synastry comparison chart and the composite chart of me
> and mygirlfriend. In the comparison chart, we have [Sun sextile Moon] +
> [Moon Trine Sun] to each other, in addition it resulted in [Sun square Moon]
> in the composite chart. I was wondering how to interpret this ambiguity that
> two soft aspects ended up in a hard aspect.

This is a mathematical consequence of the synastry aspects, so I'm not sure if
I'd worry about it much. Some astrologers put great stock in the composite
chart, but I think it plays "second fiddle" to the synastry. And if you're
going to study a composite chart, I think it's essential to have an
understanding of how the positions and aspects of the two natal charts, as well
as the synastry between them, can combine to create positions and aspects in
the composite chart.

You probably already understand how the sign positions combine to create the
composite chart. (In this discussion I'll use "A" for the first natal chart,
"B" for the second natal chart, and "C" for the composite chart.) For example,
if Sun A is in Aries, and Sun B is in Gemini, then Sun C will be in Taurus--
because Taurus is halfway between Aries and Gemini-- right? Well, the same
sort of thing is usually true with the house positions, although the sizes of
the houses can be a factor, as well as whether the closest midpoint would fall
in that house or the opposite house of the composite chart. For example, if
Sun A is in the 1st House, and Sun B is in the 3rd House, then Sun C will very
likely (but not always) be in the 2nd House-- because the 2nd House is halfway
between the 1st House and the 3rd House.

With aspects, a similar effect occurs. (Keep in mind that this is a
mathematical result of the way composite charts are calculated.) For example,
if Sun A and Moon A are conjunct, and Sun B and Moon B are opposite, then Sun C
and Moon C will be square-- because the square is halfway between the
conjunction and the opposition.

With the other aspects (trine, square, sextile, etc.), you have to consider the
phases, because they will make a difference. For example, if Sun A is in a
waxing square with Moon A, and Sun B is in a waxing square with Moon B, then
Sun C will be in a waxing square with Moon C. But if Sun A is in a waxing
square with Moon A, and Sun B is in a waning square with Moon B, then Sun C
will either be conjunct or opposite Moon C-- because these aspects are halfway
between the waxing square and the waning square.

These effects work with the synastry charts, too. For example, if Sun A is in
the 7th House of chart B, and Sun B is in the 7th House of chart A, which house
of chart C (the composite chart) do you think Sun C will be in? If you said
"probably the 7th House," you answered correctly! :-)

In the case you cited, Sun A is sextile Moon B, and Moon A is trine Sun B. I
can tell that either both aspects are waning, or both are waxing, because Sun C
is square Moon C-- the square being halfway between the sextile and the trine.
If one aspect had been waxing and the other waning, then Sun C would have ended
up being either semisextile or quincunx Moon C-- because these two aspects are
halfway between a waxing sextile and a waning trine, or halfway between a
waning sextile and a waxing trine.

I don't know if you've been able to follow everything I've said, but the gist
of it is that Sun C being square Moon C is a mathematical consequence of the
sextile and trine in the synastry charts. And in my opinion, you can't
adequately interpret the composite square without taking the two synastry
aspects into account. After all, consider that the following scenarios could
result in Sun C square Moon C:

(1) Sun A conjunct Moon B, Moon A opposite Sun B

(2) Sun A semisextile Moon B, Moon A quincunx Sun B

(3) Sun A decile Moon B, Moon A biquintile Sun B

(4) Sun A semisquare Moon B, Moon A sesquisquare Sun B

(5) Sun A sextile Moon B, Moon A trine Sun B

(6) Sun A quintile Moon B, Moon A tredecile Sun B

(7) Sun A square Moon B, Moon A square Sun B

To say that Sun C square Moon C would mean the same things in all of these
scenarios is, in my opinion, rather simplistic. Surely the synastry aspects
have some input into the way the composite aspect will tend to manifest? For
example, wouldn't you expect the people in scenarios 3, 5, and 6 to have an
easier time with the composite square than the people in scenarios 1, 2, 4, and
7? Still, there ought to be certain basic similarities in all seven scenarios,
such that we can give a generalized delineation of the Sun square the Moon in
the composite chart.

To put this another way, consider a sign placement in a natal chart, such as
the Sun in Aries. Suppose you have a dozen natal charts in front of you, all
with the Sun in Aries. Can you interpret that sign placement the same way in
all twelve charts? Well, to a certain extent you can, but the delineation
would either have to be rather vague and generalized, or else it would have to
try to describe as many distinct manifestations as possible, because that's the
only way the very same delineation could ever fit all twelve charts at once.
On the other hand, if the delineations of the Sun in Aries were tailored or
customized for each individual chart-- taking the whole charts into account--
you would end up with twelve unique delineations of the same sign placement,
but they would probably have some similarities, as well.

Likewise, when you interpret an aspect in a composite chart, you not only have
to take the rest of the composite chart into consideration, you also have to
take the separate charts and the synastry between them into consideration, as
well.

So, how do you interpret the Sun square the Moon in the composite chart? Well,
let's suppose that the square aspect generally indicates "stress." In the
composite chart, this square might simply indicate that the Sun-Moon
relationship is *stressed*, or emphasized in some way. In other words, perhaps
it's a "critical" feature of the relationship? To see whether this is a "good
thing" or a "bad thing," you could look back at the original charts and the
synastry. You then notice that Sun A is sextile Moon B, and Moon A is trine
Sun B, so perhaps this is more of a "good thing" than a "bad thing"?

However, you would also want to look at the Sun-Moon aspects in the separate
natal charts. For example, Sun A might be square Moon A, and Sun B might be
square Moon B, in which case the composite square would be a reflection of the
two natal squares.

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posted September 06, 2023 05:50 PM            

I sympathize with what the OP is saying. I think synastry and individual charts are the key.

And yes, I think that people do start to pigeonhole and grasp at straws with composites. Wasn't the composite invented in the 70s?

I started looking at composites between me and exes. One composite, surprisingly, has most of the inner planets on the 7th house and moon in 4th.

But the synastry makes more sense. There were a lot of squares between our individual inner planets and the ex had uranian-venus harsh aspects.

The composite simply does not make sense.

I like this opinion I came across on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/astrology/comments/cniv8z/do_you_find_composite_charts_accurate_and_if/

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DDirius:
Composite charts do not really work. There is no reason as to why it would work, considering it is just an attempt at mixing two separate techniques (synastry and midpoints) for no reason at all.

Natal charts are based on people, and you can check the personality of two individuals to see how they would react and interact, thus why synastry works as a valid technique (which is nothing more than a simple chart reading for two people if you think about it). But the composite is not a chart that represents the individuals, it is not even a chart that would represent the event or "birth" of the relationship. It doesn't even represent the true planetary positions, because it creates an imaginary configuration for the planets that has no influence on the life of the individuals.

ViviVoxNox
Makes sense ..

I felt the same, like I am a Taurus sun and my ex is Cancer so we had a Gemini Sun in composite 🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️ ??

Like that’s so far off imo ..
DDirius
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4 yr. ago

Not only far off, but just hard to accept, because it outright changes the modality and characteristics of the planetary set up in both charts. But what is even more ludicrous is when you end up with configurations such as "Venus opposition Sun", something which is imposible (Venus and Sun can never be more than 48 degrees apart).

These sort of things make composite a bit unreasonable, from a theoretical perspective. But then there is the analysis method, which does never seem to click with the characteristics of the relationship itself. So, from my perspective, it fails both from a theoretical and a practical point of view.

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posted March 10, 2024 11:59 AM            

It's like someone is a 10 on a 1-10 bad scale chart and the other is 1 so the conclusion for the combined bad scale is 5 which can discount the impact of that 10 vs 1 which is a large difference. To me It sort of subdues/suppresses the overall energies in ways I personally don't like as I like to see the pureness of the dynamics at play. By itself it's a bit questionable but taking into account both partners' charts on top of the composite helps more.

posted March 10, 2024 04:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
Personally, I find no valid in any of my progressed charts, even if there is this option in astro.com. If you want to know about the future, first and foremost you need to put a lot of love in your chart and then press the button that says "+ with transits."

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