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Topic: What natal aspects indicate musical/dancing abilities?
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twinswans Knowflake Posts: 158 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 02, 2013 11:03 AM
What placements or aspects in a natal chart would indicate musical or dancing talents and abilities?
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ail221 Knowflake Posts: 2694 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 11:08 AM
Its depends with talent and artistic ability there is the whole tug between "Nature vs. Nurture" some abilities can be innate or genetic others can be developed. Innate talent would relate to the 4th house, 3rd house planets the ability to express those; communication, and the 5th house is essential the passionate house, the house of creativity. As well as a good number of quintiles and bi-quintiles.Edit for aspects Moon conjunct Asc Mercury conjunct/ trine venus Moon conjunct/trine Neptune. Venus conjunct MC Fifth and Seventh Harmonics chart would indicate talent as well. Water grand trines IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 3420 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 02, 2013 11:10 AM
Positive aspects between or with Moon, Venus, Neptune. Anything in Taurus for singing since this sign rules the throat, or Libra for artistic/musical talent in general. Things in the 1st, 7th, 10th, 12th house (1st is the self, 7th is naturally ruled by Libra, 10th is career, 12th is Pisces naturally.) This is just my logic, not necessarily fact. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 9038 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted January 02, 2013 11:28 AM
The only one that can really sing in my family is a Leo.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 3420 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 02, 2013 11:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by sand: The only one that can really sing in my family is a Leo.
Huh! I can sing pretty well for not having had any training, and Leo rules my 3rd house. IP: Logged |
MillyX Knowflake Posts: 424 From: canada Registered: Feb 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 12:00 PM
Moon/Neptune aspects Mercury/Venus Mercury/NeptuneIP: Logged |
somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 117 From: wales Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 12:14 PM
For the innate talent/proclivity towards dancing and music, such arts, look to Solar influence, from Leo to the Fifth (especially). IP: Logged |
twinswans Knowflake Posts: 158 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 02, 2013 01:07 PM
Thanks guys..  And what about dancing alone? That depends on how mars is aspected right? What should be the suitable placements and aspects to mars?IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 9038 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted January 02, 2013 01:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Huh! I can sing pretty well for not having had any training, and Leo rules my 3rd house.
God cursed me, he just made me cute!  IP: Logged |
ail221 Knowflake Posts: 2694 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 01:33 PM
It really depends on the dance style. Ballet dancers would require a lot of fixed energy and fire. Regardless artists require ambition if they lack the ambition the innate talent would be wasted. This coming from someone who studied multiple art disciplines.  IP: Logged |
stellar_moon Knowflake Posts: 49 From: Canada Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 01:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand: The only one that can really sing in my family is a Leo.
I sing and I have Mercury in Leo in the 10th house as well as Sun and Venus (in Cancer) in the 10th house. I have a very loud voice for someone not so big but you would never know it if I was just talking. My talking voice is very quiet. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 3420 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 02, 2013 02:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand: God cursed me, he just made me cute! 
Lmao...ya finally got me to crack a smile  IP: Logged |
StacyLewis Knowflake Posts: 368 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 03:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by twinswans: What placements or aspects in a natal chart would indicate musical or dancing talents and abilities?
Neptune, Neptune, NEPTUNE. It rules all arts and forms of creativity. IP: Logged |
StacyLewis Knowflake Posts: 368 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 03:21 PM
Also, check to see what the asteroids named after the muse goddesses, are doing in the chart. http://tribes.tribe.net/asteroid_astrology/thread/49136b66-10dc-48ef-8286-82f4abe122b9 IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 172 From: Poland/Saturn Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 03:33 PM
I think I have such abilities.I have: Libra Moon Sun conjunct Neptune ASC trine Neptune Venus trine MC Sun, Venus, Neptune in 5H Mars in Taurus
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pisces moon Knowflake Posts: 179 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 02, 2013 07:19 PM
I have mercury conjunct venus libra, Neptune (7th)trine moon (12th). leo on the fifth house cusp and taurus rising. I am not a good singer and an even worse dancer.IP: Logged |
StacyLewis Knowflake Posts: 368 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 07:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by pisces moon: I have mercury conjunct venus libra, Neptune (7th)trine moon (12th). leo on the fifth house cusp and taurus rising. I am not a good singer and an even worse dancer.
Same. I have some of the traditional indicators, but really I'm not a singer and dancer. I think it manifests more for me as being an appreciator of the arts rather than someone that's supposed to participate. IP: Logged |
pisces moon Knowflake Posts: 179 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted January 02, 2013 08:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by StacyLewis: Same. I have some of the traditional indicators, but really I'm not a singer and dancer. I think it manifests more for me as being an appreciator of the arts rather than someone that's supposed to participate.
Haha, same here when it comes to those particular arts. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 9038 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted January 02, 2013 09:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Lmao...ya finally got me to crack a smile 
What y? Do I mostly make you sneer behind the screen?  IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion Knowflake Posts: 1222 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 09:55 PM
I have Moon trine Neptune+Uranus Neptune+Uranus trine my MC Neptune as my 4th house ruler Sun in Libra in the 10thand I was a river dancer and I am an artist, and a very talented writer. I love doing anything artistic, also I usually pick up instruments quite quickly, my latest is guitar. My family has many musical and artistic abilities but I am by far the most driven to make it a lifestyle from the Sun and MC aspects. My cousin has Venus in Pisces and Moon in Cancer in the 10th Sun in Taurus in the 8th square Neptune in the 5th and he is also very musically gifted, he plays piano so incredibly it's unbelievable that he is only 6 and doing Mozart and other classics with such dedication. IP: Logged |
inaworldofsong Knowflake Posts: 113 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 10:29 PM
I have: Taurus rising - opposite it's ruler Venus in Scorpio. Moon in Libra - sextile Sun (Sagittarius). Mars in Leo in the 5th. Neptune conjunct MC. 7th house - Jupiter/Mercury/Pluto conjunction and North Node. Scorpio stellium. Venus conjunct the DC by 1*, and Sun just barely over the 8th house cusp by a few minutes (and widely conjunct Pluto/Jup/Merc). 10th house - Neptune and Uranus, both conjunct MC.I'm planning to transfer to a communications school next fall. I really love theatre, film, and writing. I love singing and am pretty good at it but have never had the opportunity to get any private training so I wouldn't stand a chance in auditions against people who have. I've also tried my hand at writing music, and I'm not too terrible at that for a first try! IP: Logged |
twinswans Knowflake Posts: 158 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 03, 2013 02:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by ail221: It really depends on the dance style. Ballet dancers would require a lot of fixed energy and fire. Regardless artists require ambition if they lack the ambition the innate talent would be wasted. This coming from someone who studied multiple art disciplines. 
I was thinking lot of fire and water in the chart? And maybe mars in 8th or 12th house? maybe even mars in nice aspects to neptune or uranus or pluto? Also lot of piscean placements? Mars-venus aspects?
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twinswans Knowflake Posts: 158 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 03, 2013 03:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by StacyLewis: Also, check to see what the asteroids named after the muse goddesses, are doing in the chart. [URL=http://tribes.tribe.net/asteroid_astrology/thread/49136b66-10dc-48ef-8286-82f4abe122b9]http://tribes.tribe.net/asteroid_astrology/thread/49136b66-10dc-48ef-8286-82f4abe122b9[/ URL]
WOW Coincidentally, i was looking through these muse asteroids yesterday in the tribes website, and this what made me create this thread ! I wanted everyones input on what basic planetary aspects and placements contribute towards these talents  IP: Logged |
twinswans Knowflake Posts: 158 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 03, 2013 03:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by StacyLewis: Same. I have some of the traditional indicators, but really I'm not a singer and dancer. I think it manifests more for me as being an appreciator of the arts rather than someone that's supposed to participate.
Yup.....sorry i forgot to mention..that i just didnt mean an active participation in the performing arts, but also simply, Appreciation. IP: Logged |
twinswans Knowflake Posts: 158 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 03, 2013 03:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by sweet-scorpion: I have Moon trine Neptune+Uranus Neptune+Uranus trine my MC Neptune as my 4th house ruler Sun in Libra in the 10thand I was a river dancer and I am an artist, and a very talented writer. I love doing anything artistic, also I usually pick up instruments quite quickly, my latest is guitar. My family has many musical and artistic abilities but I am by far the most driven to make it a lifestyle from the Sun and MC aspects. My cousin has Venus in Pisces and Moon in Cancer in the 10th Sun in Taurus in the 8th square Neptune in the 5th and he is also very musically gifted, he plays piano so incredibly it's unbelievable that he is only 6 and doing Mozart and other classics with such dedication.
Very nice post  Thanks for sharing! IP: Logged |