posted January 09, 2013 09:45 AM            

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Originally posted by goatcat:
Eccentric is the word. No two goats are alike. You have serious goats, clumsy goats, painfully stylish goats, boring goats.

One thing all Capricorns have in common, I've noticed, is the facial expressions. It's like our face doesn't move when we talk, only our mouths.
Capricorns are weird. I don't even understand my own kind.

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posted January 09, 2013 09:49 AM            

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Originally posted by goatcat:
I'm a Capricorn sun with Sun conjunct Uranus and Neptune. I don't even feel like a Capricorn sometimes.

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posted January 09, 2013 09:53 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Probably, you can blame NEPTUNE LOL!!! That planet, I notice, can cause a lot of confusion and a feeling that one lacks an identity. I can definitely relate to not feeling like a sun Virgo. I think the Libra stellium, Mars in Sag, and the Neptune singleton in Scorpio overtake the Virgo sun entirely. I spend a lot of time identifying with these other planetary energies and not the Virgo sun. Virgo is on the 12 house cusp of things repressed and hidden so maybe that's another possible explanation?

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posted January 09, 2013 09:55 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Maybe he got tips on how to make money off show biz from Demi?

By self made, I mean, someone spends a great deal of their life attempting to make a lot of money and succeeding at some point. Just because you get a loan from a bank doesn't mean you will be rich if you make lousy investments and lose it.

Paris Hilton doesn't fit this description, exactly.

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if she has made more than her trust i think she is at least worthy of her wealth. but that's imo.

it's not always about amount of effort put in. look at one of the taurus billionaires james dyson the inventor of the bladeless fan. i'm sure there are countless inventors/ engineers out there working hard but he made it coz his ideas were practical/ sell-able at this momemnt in time.

posted January 09, 2013 09:57 AM            

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Originally posted by goatcat:
Where do I find my stellium?

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posted January 09, 2013 10:02 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
if she has made more than her trust i think she is at least worthy of her wealth. but that's imo.

it's not always about amount of effort put in. look at one of the taurus billionaires james dyson the inventor of the bladeless fan. i'm sure there are countless inventors/ engineers out there working hard but he made it coz his ideas were practical/ sell-able at this momemnt in time.

i meant people that put you to school, sparked an idea, got you your first job, your first investor, a partnership, etc..

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By self made, I mean someone who puts a lot of time and energy into actually acquiring the money opposed to someone who has the money fall in their lap and can afford to take risks and explore their particular fancies.

posted January 09, 2013 10:10 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by goatcat:
[b]I am a Capricorn with no desire to manage anything but my own life.

I feel like any sign with heavy Saturn influences are more like an archetype Capricorn than a solar one.

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do you think saturn as chart ruler can overpower say sun in leo? because sometimes I feel more like a capricorn than a Leo sun.

posted January 09, 2013 10:12 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W25_jgiY51I

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posted January 09, 2013 10:13 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
First, you need an ascending sign...do you have your natal chart? Look and see which sign is ascending, then find the house which has Capricorn on the cusp and the stellium should be somewhere near this house.

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posted January 09, 2013 10:15 AM            

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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
Lol. Nice

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i was gonna ask u something btw but since ya here..

posted January 09, 2013 10:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
do you think saturn as chart ruler can overpower say sun in leo? because sometimes I feel more like a capricorn than a Leo sun.

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If you have the sun in Leo where it rules with it near a cardinal point or in a cardinal house, it is going to be a major influence in the chart. If it is weakened by aspect or house, it won't be as noticeable. I think a lot of it relates to genetics and upbringing. You are born with a predisposition then your parents, friends and educators either let you develop naturally or they try to mold you into something different. I think a weak sun can signify someone who was molded while powerful sun is someone who is allowed to develop their natural inclinations more.

Sun will intensify if the aspects are conjunction or opposition and to a lesser extent, square. The more aspects, the more important the sun will be in the chart.

Saturn can be a strong planet if it is in a sign it rules or exalted (Libra or Aquarius depending on the astrologer,) or if it is in an angular house. It is strong if it conjuncts ascending degree, MC especially or descending degree. It is accidentally exalted in house 7. Some say it has an affinity with house 12.

You compare the sun in your natal chart with Saturn and decide which one you think is stronger and that is the one which will influence your life more. So you could be Saturnine even though you are sun Leo if Saturn aspects a lot of planets, especially the Leo sun, or if it is prominent in your chart.

posted January 09, 2013 10:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
starlight..would you mind much if I pretty please ask you to have a look at my chart? it's in the astrology beginners forum?

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posted January 09, 2013 10:37 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
She's rich but she's a socialite, not really self made. Inherited.

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posted January 09, 2013 12:42 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
^AriesKat; where is your Moon?

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posted January 09, 2013 12:43 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I think earth signs can be materialistic... sometimes. It all depends on the chart at large. Like, I have my MC in an earth sign but it is widely conjunct my Moon, trine Neptune and Uranus, and sextile Pluto and Mars. I don't consider myself materialistic at all - especially because I have earth sign Uranus in my 2nd house. So despite having a major Earth planet + angle I am definitely not materialistic in the sense that my major life goal is $$$$$.

On the other hand, I've seen Virgo and Taurus be very materialistic... someone I know had Virgo Mars in the 2nd trine a Taurus MC and they were all about practicality to earn $$$, his Sun was in Leo in the 12th square his MC...and he didn't want to pursue an artistic career because it wasn't 'realistic' enough even though he liked art.

A relative has 3 Taurus planets, all opposed my natal Scorpio ones, and it really really grates on my nerves that they are a genuine, bonafide workaholic. Taurus influences made it an artistic-ish career... but still. It just bothers me since they don't try to explore much of anything else in life except providing.

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posted January 09, 2013 04:39 PM            

ive also met some materialistic cancer suns....

posted January 09, 2013 05:44 PM            

The Earthians I've known have all been over-achievers, to one degree or another (some being creatures of necessity only, others being lovers of quality and extravagance)... but, they don't take what isn't rightfully theirs, or more than their share of anything, they are also extremely charitable, tending to contribute first, and most to causes of great importance to either the welfare or advancement of everyone, even the ones who come off as severely lacking in empathy. We set realistic goals for ourselves, we stick with these ambitions against all odds, almost without exception or detour; we endeavor to keep to them, and pace ourselves, you'll always see even a fire-born Earthian pace himself calculating distances and possible outcomes (despite being the least imaginative in element we always find a way of seeing potential disaster, in full glory and bitter detail).... we (Earthians) are keenly aware of what is going on around us, because we are cautious.... if that puts us in a position where we can obtain things that are unavailable to others.... we're only doing what I believe any other sign would in the same position... it's just we get their more often... like those billionaires mentioned... we recognize them by their wealth, but tend to not be aware of the time, prioritizing, personal sacrifices, and foresight, and compromising/negotiating that they had to endure just to make their investments prosper... so it really seems to come down to how we define materialism... just like YTA has said earlier on...

that is something different to each of us, for the most part it seems...
but, I'm entirely biased by default.

I wouldn't care one shake or nod what anyone thought or said of me, if I had the wealth of my own, I'd be living it up like Streisand... collecting my dues and nothing more~ (Streisand being a Taurus with Cap MC)~ lol

materialism (a materialistic entity) to me means someone who is interested solely on procuring items of status or value (by whichever system) and often whatever means necessary, that are beyond the effort and sacrifice they've made to obtain them; are interested in having these items, and then some, only for the sake of having them and nothing more; or, are only interested in things of physical value, to the exclusion of all humanitarian and interpersonal virtues... that's materialism to me...

posted January 09, 2013 05:54 PM            

Sun: Taurus
Moon: Pisces
Mercury: Taurus
Venus: Taurus
Mars: Taurus
J:Leo, S:Virgo, P:Libra, U:Scorpio, N:Sagittarius

4 inner planets in earth but my old soul has no concerns about materialism except as it takes care of the physical body.

I read somewhere that Bhudda had 6 planets in Taurus too.

posted January 10, 2013 07:16 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by lilithpluto:
[b] Lol. Nice

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i was gonna ask u somethlting btw but since ya here..

solitary stars.. what does it do if it appears by LP?[/B][/QUOTE]

posted January 10, 2013 07:25 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
u know caps are not high on the list. i will check again but i remember they weren't last time i read that forbes article.

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