posted January 12, 2013 09:53 PM            

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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Although your point about self-esteem issues may have some merit, I'd be careful with that. It'll depend on sign placement, aspects, etc.. People may say "of course" without truly realizing that though.

The model pictured there has Venus conjunct Aries ascendant from the 12th house side, with a number of fortune aspects (exact conjunct Mars in Aries, sextile Jupiter in Aquarius, square Neptune in Cap, trine Saturn in Scorpio, inconjunct Pluto in Scorpio). All of that can factor into quite a stunning person--appearance and otherwise. So, placement and aspects can make a difference, too.

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i knew some of that - was just pointing out the difference between a good looking celebrity that's known to be good looking (generally speaking) and a somehow "simple looking person" with Venus in House 1 - same old story: some placement or even the Sun sign alone, isn't enough to define us as a person or even, not enough even for our looks... there's always more to it than meets the eye... ^^

posted January 12, 2013 10:24 PM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
wasn't about that - more "like the way you put it... plus other stuff i piked up since I'm here" - but let me put it differently - and personally, I'm ok with any answer: So, you're saying that you don't have any self esteem issues - no problem in this area whatsoever... Is that correct?

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posted January 13, 2013 08:58 AM            

You're not being realistic if you relate beauty to physical/facial traits alone(they've stooped doing that even on major beauty contest) - that's a "superficial" perspective in terms of beauty... and truth be told "beauty is an illusion (literally - An illusion is a distortion of the senses, revealing how the brain normally organizes and interprets sensory stimulation. While illusions distort reality, they are generally shared by most people)." - It can rise interest for a person, but it doesn't show the "real" person just an attractive cover/package - which fades away quickly in a relationship. Real charm has very little to do with beauty (that would be superficial charm) and among male celebs - Gérard Depardieu could be a perfect example... he never seizes to surprise me ^^ - now, officially a Russian citizen since 5 January 2013 - citizenship granted by Putin himself:

...a rare example - he has Venus in house 1, that's true but it's paired with the Sun, Mars and Jupiter... not so good looking objectively speaking (as mentioned above - beauty is truly an illusion), yet many woman considered him very good looking... and i tend to believe that most of his charm is related to Jupiter and Pluto in trine with ASC (in terms of sex appeal) - since all above planets are in House 1/Capricorn but none in conjunction with his ASC which falls in Sagittarius.

posted January 13, 2013 10:51 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Depardieu is H12 Sag Venus.

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posted January 13, 2013 11:54 AM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
From an astrological point of view - afflicted Venus in House 1/ASC or afflicted ASC implies self esteem issues... and same goes for House 2 - in terms of self worth.
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You're not being realistic if you relate beauty to physical/facial traits alone(they've stooped doing that even on major beauty contest) - that's a "superficial" perspective in terms of beauty... and truth be told "beauty is an illusion (literally - An illusion is a distortion of the senses, revealing how the brain normally organizes and interprets sensory stimulation. While illusions distort reality, they are generally shared by most people)." - It can rise interest for a person, but it doesn't show the "real" person just an attractive cover/package - which fades away quickly in a relationship. Real charm has very little to do with beauty (that would be superficial charm) and among male celebs - Gérard Depardieu could be a perfect example... he never seizes to surprise me ^^ - now, officially a Russian citizen since 5 January 2013 - citizenship granted by Putin himself:

...a rare example - he has Venus in house 1, that's true but it's paired with the Sun, Mars and Jupiter... not so good looking objectively speaking (as mentioned above - beauty is truly an illusion), yet many woman considered him very good looking... and i tend to believe that most of his charm is related to Jupiter and Pluto in trine with ASC (in terms of sex appeal) - since all above planets are in House 1/Capricorn but none in conjunction with his ASC which falls in Sagittarius.

One of my best friends is a Virgo with Aquarius ASC and Jupiter in ASC - i'd say he was good looking as a teenager, but girls i know don't consider him good looking when they see him, quite the opposite... yet - he has tons of charm... and i witnessed that myself wile going out quite often with him - girls that didn't give him a chance at first look - started liking him a lot after he started mingling with them ...well, he's very good with words - writing being among his main talents... but most of it comes from his natural charm
(Jupiter).

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posted January 13, 2013 05:47 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
Well since I am looking over Anna Nicole Smith's chart I'd say it depends on the planets being used. She had her Venus in the 1st conjunct her Asc in Libra and she was considered attractive and she had a odd sort of charm I suppose even during her more dizzier moments.

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posted January 14, 2013 07:24 PM            

My managers like me
my workmates like me
my customers like me

I take care of them all as much as I am able to, without trying to gain anything from them.

posted January 14, 2013 07:53 PM            

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Originally posted by starfox:
Venus in 1st house here.

My managers like me
my workmates like me
my customers like me

I take care of them all as much as I am able to, without trying to gain anything from them.

Follow the golden rule!
Why wouldn't anyone like this?

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posted January 15, 2013 05:40 PM            

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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Which sign?

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posted August 20, 2016 07:54 PM            

ME! ME! ME!