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rhia Knowflake Posts: 63 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted February 22, 2013 02:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by sweet-scorpion: I find the Moon-ASC aspect, of either the quincunx, quindecile, opposition or square to be tough to have personally. I dislike mine intensely... I have the square. You nailed it with your description... of how you are very worried and obsessed in a way, with not seeming needy to others or covering the needy side of yourself up. I'm very much the same with my square. I have an neurotic and sometimes emotionless Virgo Moon, that makes me feel I can't express my needs. It is square my ASC. I feel that I must at all times not seem too needy and at the same time, must hide that I can sometimes be emotionally distant, to avoid being disliked.
I have the same moon-asc quindecile and I agree with this entirely. It puts me at such conflict with myself, because I think innate tendency is to err towards needy (Scorp with heavily-aspected Cancer moon in 7th) but I hate this part of myself so much that I have spent my life completely 'blocking' any emotion that resembles it. Anything less than complete independence feels like weakness. I don't think this is a healthy way of dealing with it, though. IP: Logged |
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 862 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted February 23, 2013 04:23 AM
Rhia/sweet scorpion... I concur with both of you. Moon quindecile ascendant seems very focussed on covering up neediness. In my case, it is not healthy in the sense that I think it is probably based on fear of rejection, but on the plus side this obsession does at least fuel a desire to understand the beast which is co-dependency and really explore the concept of balance and interdependence in relationships (which so far I have not mastered). Anyway, I guess that due to the nature of the quindecile, I won't be giving up on any of this anytime soon.IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 1990 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted February 23, 2013 05:49 AM
It's a pity that there isn't one astro-forum worth looking at in our small country (so yess! ) or language area.IP: Logged |
peregrine unregistered
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posted February 26, 2013 03:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by sand: Mars quindecile venus.
Quindecile to Venus: we can expect similar tension to enter within the emotional system and relationships, and sometimes into the aesthetic sensitivity (which may lead to productive artistic work.) Quindecile to Mars: this may suggest unrelenting drive to exert energy, in terms of the aspected planet, or Mars’ sign and house placement. Albert Einstein has Mars in Capricorn QD his ASC, suggesting the quality of unrelenting determination and achievement fused with the identity. so i am driven to make art? IP: Logged |
Selene Knowflake Posts: 1248 From: Registered: Apr 2013
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posted December 18, 2013 05:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Noel Tyl sais about the 24th harmonic aspects and especially the quindecile:""Quin-deh-chee'-leh" is the Latinate word for fifteen, referring to the fifteen-degree increments of all aspects in the 24th harmonic (360/24=15: 15, 30, 45, 60, 75, 90, 105, 120, 135, 150, 165, 180. Of these aspects, all but the 105 and 165 are already covered (named) by existing aspect references. Research showed the 105 to be unreliable, inconclusive, insignificant, and boring; research showed conclusively, adamantly, that the 165 is an aspect of unrelenting moitvation, obsession, determination, upheaval, disruption, even separation. I have studied the quindecile now in some 900-1,000 cases." http://www.noeltyl.com/techniques/990801.html Honestly, I can`t do anything with the mentioning of disruption or separation, as I wouldn´t know how to apply it to analyzing this aspect in a chart. However I can see how it works with keywords like "determination/ focus/ drive etc..
Noel Tyl suggests a 2°-2,5° orb for the quindecile. Personally I wouldn´t go beyond 2 degrees as max, and pay most attention to those under one degree.
What would you say on Sun-Sun 1.26 degrees quindecile, and Moon - Moon exact quindecile in one synastry? IP: Logged |
joyrjw Knowflake Posts: 409 From: Indianapolis, USA Registered: Nov 2010
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posted July 20, 2015 02:50 PM
I have Jupiter rx Taurus 11th QD Neptune Sag. 6th Neptune Sag 6th QD Gemini Ascendant Pluto Libra 4th QD Chiron rx Aries 10th Quindecile from Neptune- Potentially disruptive intensification of creative, visionary, or escapist drive can be expected. Poet William Wordsworth has his Neptune QD Mercury, which seems to corroborate his obsession with romantic ideas and aesthetic communication. Quindecile to Jupiter- may suggest obsessive focus on education, philosophy or spirituality. This aspect may intensify the need for rewards in terms of Jupiter’s sign and house placement. Quindecile to Ascendant- suggests obsessive and even disruptive focus on relationship and self image in terms of the planet aspecting it. Quindecile from Pluto- obsessive, unrelenting motivation toward empowerment or destruction. Warren Buffett has his Pluto QD Saturn, which suggests monumental empowerment and absolute fixation on practical achievement. quindecile to Chiron rx: unknown... my guess is a obsessive unrelenting motivation toward woundedness and self healing. [URL=http://community.astroloogia.com/post/obsessed-the-quindecile-aspect-6942226?trail=15]http://community.astroloogia.com/post/obsessed-the-quindecile-aspect-6942226?trail=15[/UR L] IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 862 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted July 20, 2015 05:29 PM
Quindecile, Latin, means fifteen "quin"/5 + "decile"/10 = 15. It refers to all aspects of the 15-degree increments when 15 degrees is subtracted or added to any major aspect. The names are a bit confusing, so let's simply be practical and name them by their angle: 15, 45, 75, 105, 135, 165-degree aspects.I work with these minor aspects extensively and in my rectification work have found that in progressions these aspects function in a major way. In other words, when they are exact (within +/- 0*04' arc) and occur simultaneously with at least one other near exact progressed aspect, they are major progressions, as they very often signal the timing and nature of significant life events -- but not as much as major aspects. Responding to the orginal post from two years ago by Ceridwen: No, they are not major aspects "as intense as a conjunction, opposition or square in its effect" as attributed to Geocosmic Valentine. They are of the nature of the square, but less intense. The 135-degree sesquisquare is not as strong as the square. It is a harmonic fraction of the square. In other words, it vibrates similarly, but with less amplitude. In fact, Ricki Reeves, author of The Quindecile refers to these 165-degree aspects in this way as, ".... hidden driving forces ..." Nor does the 165-degree aspect = "obsession." This is where I believe Reeves and Tyl over-reach. Even in my extensive work with these aspects I cannot specifically define any one of them in this manner. Nor in principle would I attempt to define a particular geometric aspect angle in such a specific way before we even see what planets are involved. That would be similar to interpreting all squares as 'insecure' or 'compuslive', to anthropomorphize before we even see what specific planetary energies are involved. "Obsession" is aberrant or imbalanced mental function, a dysfunction in which one particular thought or kind of thought intrudes into other thought streams. How can this be attributed to an impersonal energy dynamic? There might be another way of describing the 165 aspect that is in line with Reeves' (and others') work, but that is far too specific in my view and gives a picture tainted by an imbalanced, dysfunctional cultural norm. Seeing that exact aspects in progressions accompany significant life events does not mean that such aspects if they are present in the natal chart can be given a strength rating equal to the truly angular aspects: conjunctions/parallels, oppositions/contra-parallels, and squares. In fact, parallels and contra-parallels of declination are stronger and more important to interpretive chart synthesis than any of these minor 15-degree aspects. I have come to view astrologers with fad theories (even when seemingly well supported by research) as being similar to gamblers with an angle to play. Every horse player has some technique, some angle, some method in the attempt to get the answer or win. Astrological research is sadly, typically very faulty. It overwhelmingly tends to be logically incestuous, self-reinforcing, and totally lacking in what would be considered control measures. The results, once published, tend to be over-played, because every person wants their work to be noticed and seem significant.
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