posted January 21, 2013 12:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Yeah I look young too, I suppose thats the gemini charm.... or curse..
Maybe its because I mentioned high school a lot, because it really did scar me...

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posted January 21, 2013 12:42 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
it's hard for me to admit that i like babies at all. i dont. i think they're ugly D:

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LOL people always look at me wrong when i find a baby to be ugly .. "what?!?, noooo! all babies are beautiful! how could you say something like that?!?!"

posted January 21, 2013 12:43 AM            

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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
LOL people always look at me wrong when i find a baby to be ugly .. "what?!?, noooo! all babies are beautiful! how could you say something like that?!?!"

to me, all NEWBORN babies are hideous.

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posted January 21, 2013 12:46 AM            

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RunAroundScreaming: it's hard for me to admit that i like babies at all. i dont. i think they're ugly D:

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posted January 21, 2013 12:56 AM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Honestly babies scare me sometimes 'cause like they're just these little things that live off of us and command all this love and attention? Like what if they were actually intelligent and just used natural instinct to their advantage or something lmao! Scifi.

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posted January 21, 2013 12:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
^ I agree I was disgusted by my photos as a newborn baby, so wrinkly... maybe babies around 9 months are cute.

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posted January 21, 2013 12:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Debby4:
LMAO! I heard someone else say this... To which I have to agree. They all.. Swollen D: and whiny xD

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posted January 21, 2013 01:01 AM            

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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
i remember, going to see my friends at the hospital when they gave birth, and everyone would be like "oh, what a beautiful baby! just gorgeous! " yada yada, and i'm just there giving everyone the side eye LOL. .. and i tried not to look at their newborns, cause i didn't want to get caught looking at it with my face of disgust lol.

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posted January 21, 2013 01:01 AM            

Since the beginning, I'd always said I never wanted biological children. Always thought I'd end up adopting three girls or at least three siblings from another country once I'd turned 30 and had settled into my career (whatever it would have been). ^^;

I also figured if I had a worthy partner/donor that I'd be open to having biological children only after turning 32... and not after 35. (Yep, I'm so harsh I gave myself and partner a 3 year window.) lmao

NOW - lol I had my son in April of my 23rd year and was married June of the same year... lol Nothing worked out how I'd planned it, but c'est la vie!~

I have a incredibly rambunctious, entirely too handsome, smartypants, smart-mouthed, Aries Sun/Libra Moon/Leo Rising (Mars in Aquarius/Venus in Taurus) bundle of fun to gloat over and coddle way too much!~

I only want the one I have now... I would only consider local adoption after foster parenting, and would only adopt an older child/children... only if I felt absolutely secure enough to do so. (although patience is not my strong point, and adoption is very iffy-chancy waiting game...)

(But definitely non-biological from here on out --- This is for health reasons mostly. I do not care to pass on my newly discovered genetic error, and would not have, if I had known before conceiving my firstborn.)

Placements:
I'm a 5th House Sun, Ruler in 3rd House Scorpio conjunct Ishtar-Eros, Pluto in Scorpio conjunct Mars, Leo 11th/12th.

I have 9th House Moon conjunct Chiron trine my Sun exact, opposite Saturn in Scorpio 3rd House, 9th House ruler in 4th House cnj South Node, and Uranus, Sagittarius with Jupiter IC ruler in its domain, and Cancer in the 11th House. ^^; which is probably why my views on children have always been restricted or reserved, despite my 5th house Sun trine Moon, and 4th house stellium/placements that favour having a large family.

Instead I tend to take on/care for the elderly and to animals more often than children... which also is seen in the aspects of my chart. I would still love to adopt though, and my friends have named me godparent to their children, so I'm not entirely without multiple children in my life... just not really my own biological lot! XD I attract children all the time, although I can't see why... my size, or my Sun... though I'm a really a tough love type of mother... they seem to not mind. @__@ it's weird... I guess I give good hugs... and it is my nature to care for hurt, lost, and incapable beings... Venus-Uranus - Aquarius 5-6th House... Ceres is conjunct BM Lilith, conjunct my Dsc Node. lol idk if that's a very good thing though~ hahaha *steals other people's children* mwahahaha

posted January 21, 2013 01:14 AM            

:O Oh no! Plans gone wrong! D: ;D But you love the little bugger

posted January 21, 2013 01:51 AM            

I earned my living before becoming a homemaker, as being a nursing assistant, and was studying/in school to become a registered nurse... then I moved to another country, and has a child.... and married... and have spent the last 5 years in immigration limbo. ^^; But, my greatest joy is in caring for the elderly, hospice, rest homes... (it all goes back to my 4th,5th,6th houses.. which are the highlights of chart)

Animals are tied into the Moon in Taurus trine Sun, and the 4th house as well...

4th house stellium wishes to expand their family... I have North Node Gemini though, and afflictions to my Moon.

All together that indicates that I've needed to separate myself from my old ways, the failings I had in my own relationship to my parents, and to learn to be my own parent, and accept others into my family... usually by way of my 11th house... friendships are /the/ most important to me... the patients I worked for, were my friends and then my family, my coworkers were my friends and then my family, and starting my own family... while not easy... has been another lesson in separating from what I had in that wild and crowded 4th house environment as a child... and starting with anew... on my own terms, not tied to the ones that were ingrained in me in my youth. ^^;

Anyway that's how /I/ have come to break down the pattern, partly from my own observation of the aspects and in large part to study...

older kids.... that's simple!!!

I kept very close inventory of everything we went through with our son as an infant.... I didn't sleep for the first 4 months of his life, I swear to the heavens, I DO NOT remember closing my eyes ever, voluntarily... I passed out, sure... and that was dangerous for all of us. lol

My son was an alien when he was born btw... lmfao OH but, soon as I saw his ramlike 'V' in his forehead, I couldn't help but laugh/cry.... XD he was huge and not very wrinkly though... he was extremely healthy despite the complications. ^^; And, imho - they only need about a month to look like cute lil humanoids, with their adorable tiny toes, and hobbit hands.... with babies... my love for buying shoes goes to a whole other level... I adore baby feet... just sayin... hahaha But, older kids... they can use the facilities on their own mostly, or nearly so, more often than not... and they are passed the teething stage, and less likely to vomit all over you at the most inopportune moments... XD or so I would hope!
Plus it's easy to feel a bit tied down when you have a tiny infant... whereas you can do more things/activities with the older ones... lol

*distracted a bit* lol hopefully that was somewhat cohesive~

do any of the planets in your stellium rule over your descendant? ^^; that could be part of the reason you want a very large family for yourself~

posted January 21, 2013 02:20 AM            

You're so... OPEN about your life. It seems.

And nope. Mercury is in the Pisces stellium but not the 4th house stellium.

posted January 21, 2013 02:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Debby4:
Lmao! 4 ;D Awesome! Big familys! Wooo! Hmmm palm reading? I can't ever read those sticking lines... But I only see two I've also read somewhere that those can also be "soul" children. Like people or children who come into your life to teach you things. Every time I meet or babysit kids it's always a girl first then a boy. What are you "genders"? Hehe..

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The girl who read my palm told me two boys and two girls. She also told me that I have a million other little lines, and she did say that they may be "soul" children I take into my life. I do plan on working with children!

posted January 21, 2013 03:29 AM            

the other little lines she was probably/possibly referring to are either on your mound of venus - which represent the people we cross paths with in the course of this life, in general, and we in some small way effect their lives... (ripple effect - hence these ripple lines) --- or the lines beneath your litter finger, that's generally where children and marriage is read from... (although I can't say it's the only location to look, it is the only place I was taught or have learned of in my near 20 years of study) If she read from those lines, having many... could also be children of our partner(s), and animals who we care for as though children...

I have one two marriage lines (I was technically married to my ex by state law), he had many children... two of which became like children of mine, and we had 2 dogs, and 2 snakes, and an impressive iguana, and then some others... lol My line which would clearly indicate that relationship... shows 4 children, two are more vibrant (the dogs)... lol

So it really depends where your reader was looking exactly... I've never heard soul children used in palmistry... but, maybe she was a new age/psychic kind or something...

just thought I'd share~ <3

posted January 21, 2013 03:59 AM            

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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
i don't like kids, and don't want em. chiron exactly conjunct my 5th house(cancer on cusp).i have moon in leo (6th), and ceres in cancer conjunct cancer jupiter in the 4th (gemini on cusp). what's weird to me,is that kids really really like me O_o...i wish i had a huge farm though lol. animals are my "kids"

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posted January 21, 2013 05:17 AM            

Gemini is on the cusp.

posted January 21, 2013 05:53 AM            

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What's in your 5th house? What's the sign on your 5th house cusp? Would you ever adopt? Have you adopted? What sign and house are your moon and ceres (and other parenting/mother planets)? Sorry I don't know much about paternal planets.

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I have three children But I have also had two miscarriages, one nearly took my own life too (ectopic).

I knew from a young age I wanted them, but I only saw myself with two!

To answer your question, my fifth house is in Sagittarius and the only planet in that house is Neptune.

My Moon is exhalted in Taurus, sitting at the top of my chart in the 10th house. It is well aspected, trining Venus and Jupiter, opposite Uranus.

My Venus is less well aspected, opposite Jupiter and squaring Pluto.

Cant really think what else in the chart would point towards wanting/having children. I think my moon says alot.

posted January 21, 2013 05:57 AM            

My 4th house/IC is in Scorpio. I have Pluto and Uranus sitting there.

To me the 4th house is more about your own family background. My Scorpion father personifies my 4th house Pluto, if you could imagine a 4th house Uranus and Pluto childhood - that would be mine.

posted January 21, 2013 09:29 AM            

Also the 4th house's natural ruler is Cancer... cancer rules my 11h... 11h is related to both marriage (after the first) and adoptions - ... Jupiter rules over expansion, Sagittarius lords over my 4th and entire chart (along with Merc)... so, expanding my family, including my extended family has always and will always be important to me...

It's also because it is where /my/ South Node is and it is part of my SN/NN path/purpose.... and it relates to how my 5th-6th house Aquarius influence plays into things... (my career/love of old people, because I was asked to explain... causes and groups that include them and their care/rights....)

http://raginguniverse.blogspot.ca/2007/03/south-node-in-cancer-or-fourth-house.html

You can't look at the moon without looking at the house it rules naturally, I believe... again... I look for patterns and big pictures... ~sorry for any confusions! ^^

anyway - IC is related not just to our own childhoods...

http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_dgfourthhouse_e.htm