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Topic: How honest are you?
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aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 04, 2013 05:07 PM
  
jupiter in the 6th, pluto in the 9th... i'm a straight shooter most of the time and if i do lie its usually a lie of omission... like i might withhold imformation to avoid trouble/conflict, but if i'm asked directly about something i'll be honest.... for example: if i broke something i might keep quiet ,not tell anybody,and hope nobody notices it, but if someone asked me directly if i had broke it i would admit it.IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted February 04, 2013 08:31 PM
I'm very utilitarian about the whole thing.. I try to think about the likely consequences my actions will have on myself and others. I'll choose to either lie or tell the truth depending on the situation/context... Basically, I take the path that I believe causes the least damage/problems. Honesty for its own sake does not seem valuable to me, if the consequences of being honest are negative and detrimental. My Jupiter is in Pisces in the 10th, sextile Neptune, trine Pluto, t-square Saturn & Chiron. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 04, 2013 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
I'm very utilitarian about the whole thing.. I try to think about the likely consequences my actions will have on myself and others. I'll choose to either lie or tell the truth depending on the situation/context... Basically, I take the path that I believe causes the least damage/problems. Honesty for its own sake does not seem valuable to me, if the consequences of being honest are negative and detrimental. My Jupiter is in Pisces in the 10th, sextile Neptune, trine Pluto, t-square Saturn & Chiron.
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sweet-scorpion
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From: PA, USA
Registered: Apr 2012
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posted February 04, 2013 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Wheres your jupiter? and how your 9th house. maybe other aspects that can contribute to being extremely honest?
*****I don't mean honesty with people but in your actions.***
Would you keep a hundred dollar bill your found or just turn it in?
I have my Jupiter conjunct Venus in Scorpio in the 11th. It is opposite BML; and sextile my 9H Moon in Virgo and my 2H Neptune-Uranus con. in Cap. It is disposited by my 12H Pluto in Scorpio. I feel like I am very honest. Maybe because I have my Jupiter tied to my 9th house planet, the Moon, which is in Virgo. I do not feel it is natural to steal someone else's money or property. I find it sickening and low. I also feel very guilty even THINKing of stealing which has happened a few times but just with stupid 1-3 dollar items when people joked me into it like a pack of gum or a hair scrunchie set. It's of so little value and yet I just never could. Not my style. IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 04, 2013 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
jupiter in the 6th, pluto in the 9th... i'm a straight shooter most of the time and if i do lie its usually a lie of omission... like i might withhold imformation to avoid trouble/conflict, but if i'm asked directly about something i'll be honest.... for example: if i broke something i might keep quiet ,not tell anybody,and hope nobody notices it, but if someone asked me directly if i had broke it i would admit it.
do u say ur going to work and then... not?  that was a huge irritation for me with aqua employees... like they'd say they were going to even do this tom or that then bam nowhere insight the next day coz he was drinking. IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 04, 2013 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
so jupiter placement rules honesty? i thought it was mercury??
ethics. IP: Logged |
AriesKat
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From: Brooklyn, NY USA
Registered: May 2011
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posted February 04, 2013 09:27 PM
Are we talking percentages? because thats the only way id be able to describe how honest I am. IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 04, 2013 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Yeah, I am both...too honest...
yeah sometimes with leos i'm like you shouldn't have told me that woman!! wtf!! IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 7018
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 04, 2013 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by peregrine:
do u say ur going to work and then... not? that was a huge irritation for me with aqua employees... like they'd say they were going to even do this tom or that then bam nowhere insight the next day coz he was drinking.
actually yes!!.. in the past though.. my sun saturn conjunction always punished me for such things..
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peregrine
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posted February 04, 2013 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by anno_lucis:
jupiter in 4th (lots of us here, it seems)
in aquarius. square to pluto and mars. sextile moon. quintile saturn and lilith.it's like modern day robin hood just with less charity. jk. sorta. fixed in the idea i'll never conform 100%. don't believe that makes me immoral, or dishonest. others will disagree. it is what it is.
still want to know what u did to break ur thumb!  IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 04, 2013 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
My Leo moon agrees 
mine is afflicted. i am magnanimous though and i do care about the wellfare of my subjects. IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 04, 2013 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by peregrine:
[b] do u say ur going to work and then... not? that was a huge irritation for me with aqua employees... like they'd say they were going to even do this tom or that then bam nowhere insight the next day coz he was drinking.
actually yes!!.. in the past though.. my sun saturn conjunction always punished me for such things..[/B][/QUOTE]shame on your taurus moon man! taurus influence is about putting in an honest days work... everyday! IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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From: vodka fine, I'm so divine
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 04, 2013 09:35 PM
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peregrine: i am magnanimous though
I love Leo influence...  IP: Logged |
asclibrasagsun
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From: Mälmo, Sweden
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 05, 2013 12:09 AM
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Jessica2407
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From: Saturn
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 05, 2013 12:16 AM
Makes you a honest liar IP: Logged |
asclibrasagsun
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From: Mälmo, Sweden
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 05, 2013 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Makes you a honest liar
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asclibrasagsun
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From: Mälmo, Sweden
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 05, 2013 12:20 AM
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sharpei
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From: london
Registered: Jan 2013
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posted February 05, 2013 04:29 AM
i try really really hard to be honest and to live with integrity- there are some occasions when i need to lie though to get ahead but i pick those moments VERY VERY carefully.i wish i did not have to do that but that is my life- the best is to always do the right things - not out of fear of getting caught because fear should never be a motivating factor in anything you do of getting caught but because its fair and means society works well for everyone, i do not totally live up to that but i try to as much as possible. they do say do the right thing but do not be attached to the fruit of your actions and leave it to God. IP: Logged |
Baizzatbari
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From: India
Registered: Jan 2013
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posted February 05, 2013 05:24 AM
I tend not to be dishonest and advocate strict honesty. But when it comes to survival and there is no other option but to cheat. Then I have cheated one or two times. Lied also few times.
Virgo sun,leo asc,sagi moon, virgo jup,ninth house aries.IP: Logged |
7thGuardian
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From: Transylvania
Registered: May 2012
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posted February 05, 2013 09:16 AM
To honest for my own good sometimes.  ------------------
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Kerosene
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From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 05, 2013 10:41 AM
So are you telling me you guys never downloaded music or movies illegally?
Thats stealing and illegal.
Yes you're all very honest folk 
Yes I actually know people who never do that, I don't think its ridiculous either.
If you have strong morals and ethics you stick by them 100 percent, theres no wiggle room.
Being hypocritical isn't a good quality either.IP: Logged |
7thGuardian
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From: Transylvania
Registered: May 2012
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posted February 05, 2013 11:13 AM
On a scale from 1 to 10... 10 being a "saint" oh wait...that would be a 9... so, guess there is no 10 (90% would be the maximum) 1 being the opposite... right now I'm a honest 7...Piracy is debatable and so are the "so called strong morals" of anti-piracy protestants - if we're to talk about hypocrites with capital H...  ------------------
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Kerosene
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From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 05, 2013 11:32 AM
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No piracy isn't debatable.
Its just as worse as not validating a train pass.
People really work hard on movies, music, and video games.
I've studied animation you have to invest a lot of time on a piece.
I know a lot of animators that do not download anything illegally because of this, its like supporting the arts.IP: Logged |
7thGuardian
Knowflake Posts: 991
From: Transylvania
Registered: May 2012
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posted February 05, 2013 01:03 PM
If you make such comparison - then you can't see the bigger picture on this subject. It wasn't about how easy it is to do it... but the product itself, it's nature and it's purpose in this world. When it comes to virtual products - piracy had/has a way of "working in its advantage" - in the advantage of the artists if you will (the ones who worked for it)... "a way of promoting it..." Furthermore... it could have been stooped long ago - if it was truly a hazard to the virtual industry... but instead it proved to be very efficient - and Microsoft and their 73.72 billion $ revenue "is a solid proof to that" ...same goes for music, movies, video games and other types of software... So, then - why doesn't the government allow it? - one might ask... It's quite simple - "based on the old rules/laws - the ones implemented before the technological age" the principle behind it relates to a form of stealing... and they simply can't allow that. How should i put it... old generations must "step back" for this to change - wile newer generations will have to remake the laws and the system to fit the current time... and "this will happen" - maybe not now... not 3 or 10 years from now... but by 11'th year it might - i'm sure of it. You have no reason to worry - if your animator friends do a good job... they will sell it... and they will get 1000 x more profit cause of piracy... which will promote their animation. Numbers don't lie: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?id=animation.htm If it's about the principal... well... if we'd all give in to - old thing... slavery would still be around even today. ------------------
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Kerosene
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From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 05, 2013 01:35 PM
I'm not judging you at all but to say, oh its totally fine is just bs from your part..
Thats like shop lifting from Walmart, just because you do not get caught its still stealing. Actually a lot of smaller studios have shut down (jobs have been lost) because lack of profit, because pirating is so easily done. This happened to a friend.
Unless you work for huge studios like dream works or Ea you'll survive just fine.
You can torrent a 50 dollar video game for free, only fans or game console players really buy them.
This is why companies all over the world like forced the government to shutdown mega video Lmao those HUGE movies make there profit form the box offices and dishing out money for the theater ...... Does not count. IP: Logged |
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