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Topic: How honest are you?
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peregrine
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posted February 03, 2013 11:56 PM
 
Where is lance Armstrong's Jupiter? IP: Logged |
11nahyt
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posted February 04, 2013 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by peregrine:
Where is lance Armstrong's Jupiter?
According t astrotheme, it's in his first house lol. Conjunct Neptune in sag, and conjunct asc I'n Scorpio.. His Jupiter receives a lot of other aspects though IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted February 04, 2013 12:32 AM
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For example I don't validate my train pass, hey I'm a student and spending 81 dollars for 10 rides its too much for me. It lasts for a about week and a half..
My roomie on the other hand was offended, and felt it was dishonest. I agree its dishonest but hey the conductors never check if its validated, its just illogical to me lol
Sorry, I agree with your roomie, it's dishonest. I'm pretty honest. I always do, and say things that's right, more so now, actions wise that saying things honestly though. Because it's not always a good thing to say things honestly some people take it the wrong way,some people mistake it for bluntness when am only being honest. I don't know what might explain it in my chart but have noticed it a few times when I am the receiving end of instant karma if ever I have indulged myself in not-so-nice actions towards others,like a rebounce effect.So I am kinda of very God fearing in that sense, I always watch my actions as best as I can!! Jupiter in the 4th house taurus.The only aspects that it makes in my chart is sextile 7 H Sun, and trine my ascendant both very tight orbs. 9th house Virgo, pluto in da house. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted February 04, 2013 12:44 AM
Hmm, I hadn't read your initial post Kerosene - just your title. I'm still honest. I have Aquarius in the 9th house, Uranus in the 7th and Venus in the 11th (talk about full circle) Mars in the 12th. What about this? I'm supposed to have guests sign their registration cards when they check in to the hotel. I don't know what happens if they don't (that pertains to the night auditor) all I know is I'm supposed to do it. Sometimes to the guests walk away before I can get a chance to tell them what I need them to sign - and I don't follow up. Is that being dishonest or just lazy? I figured it was the latter. That kind of scenario happens here and there with me. I tend to be ethical because when I'm not, it worries me. I get anxiety and I don't have enough time to waste making up elaborate stories and thinking on my feet so it's just easier if I spend the extra time dotting my I's and crossing my T's. Sun and Venus are also in Aries in the 11H. Moon is in Taurus the 11H. Aries being my 11H ruler. I'd validate my train ticket because my luck doesn't work like that. I physically and mentally FEEL better when I know I'm doing the right thing. It isn't always what I WANT to do, but more so what is the right solution. IP: Logged |
AllanBeau
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posted February 04, 2013 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Wheres your jupiter? and how your 9th house. maybe other aspects that can contribute to being extremely honest?
*****I don't mean honesty with people but in your actions.***
Would you keep a hundred dollar bill your found or just turn it in?For example I don't validate my train pass, hey I'm a student and spending 81 dollars for 10 rides its too much for me. It lasts for a about week and a half..
My roomie on the other hand was offended, and felt it was dishonest. I agree its dishonest but hey the conductors never check if its validated, its just illogical to me lol
I have jupiter in the 4th house virgo. I try and get around the system if its convient.
My friend has jupiter in cancer 9th house
He does not even download anything illegally! Very honest man
Your last remark about your Cancer Jupiter friend kind of threw me off on what it means to be honest. That sounds more like paranoia to me. Knew this guy with Pluto squared Mercury. He wouldn't scan pages from an astrology book because it would be breaking the law and he didn't want to get in trouble with the law. Good grief, save me already. Knowledge should be free anyways. A few scanned pages from a book is just sharing the wealth of the information. He also a bunch of planets in Capricorn... I believe Sun, Uranus, and Neptune conjunct. Breaking the law has never bothered me. I will bend the rules from time to time. They are just guidelines anyways. There's real crooks out there that steal hundreds if not thousands of dollars from people. Even people that you think are respectable civilians could be a thief. I had a friend who got her identity stolen. She ended up being arrested by the Sheriffs office and accused of stealing 3 Dodge Chargers from a car lot. Luckily she was at work when the crime happened and her job had her on camera proving she wasn't there. Ripping off somebody where they could lose their job isn't nice. If a waiter gives me back too much change I will give it back. If I was at a hotel and they forgot to charge me for one night. Sorry that's your loss, you didn't record it in your books. Now the gas station at the corner SCREW THEM. If they gave me back too much change I would keep it. Bunch of foreigners anyways that charge you an arm and a left *** on everything. Want 2.75 for a Bic lighter for crying out loud and its the only convenience store around this area that's walking distance. Your not really taking any money from somebodies salary by not paying to renew your train pass Kerosene. You know the risk of getting caught and being smacked with a BIG ole Fine. I call that pilfering. When I was younger I used to go door to door knocking on big ole mansions collecting cans and bottles. Would make 80 dollars a day off that. Or sometimes drive down a state and go to a college campus and offer to clean out their dorms. Collecting massive amounts of cans and bottles. Scoring 150 dollars easily. Its illegal because the other state doesn't have a bottle return system. What would I think my justification for this behavior is astrologically? Sun trine Pluto. I will make my own laws. Allan Law doesn't rob or cheat someone. Not going to steal somebodies wallet or forge checks. Not going to take your drugs. I got Venus in Taurus in the 9th house. The 9th house cusp is also ruled by Taurus. I'm pretty trust-worthy with others possessions. I don't lend out other peoples stuff to others. Respect other peoples property. Don't like to barrow from others. Will struggle till payday. Don't take hand-downs. Won't see me hitting up the food bank. Jupiter in Aquarius 5th house. The Jupiter doesn't mind downloading pirated software. I know if I wanted to use the product to start a business I would buy an official copy. But for my own personal use? Why? I don't got a money tree growing in my backyard. Besides money don't grow on trees.
Overall I scrape on buy with what little I got.
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hannaramaa
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posted February 04, 2013 01:43 AM
But not being charged one night at a hotel is the same concept as a waiter giving you back too much change. You'll bend one but not the other?IP: Logged |
11nahyt
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posted February 04, 2013 02:08 AM
Just because something is convenient to you, doesn't mean you aren't being dishonest though. Still, I don't believe someone can be 100 percent honest in all of their actions always. You're bound to bend the rules here and there eventually.Though some people take it wayyy too far lolIP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted February 04, 2013 02:11 AM
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Breaking the law has never bothered me. I will bend the rules from time to time. They are just guidelines anyways.
There is HUGE difference between beaking the law, bending the rules and adhering to guidelines. Law, rules and guidelines- 3 big words. IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 04, 2013 02:38 AM
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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
According t astrotheme, it's in his first house lol. Conjunct Neptune in sag, and conjunct asc I'n Scorpio.. His Jupiter receives a lot of other aspects though
So he is a scorp Jupiter? IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 04, 2013 02:41 AM
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
There is HUGE difference between beaking the law, bending the rules and adhering to guidelines. Law, rules and guidelines- 3 big words.
I wonder if it is because I have an unaspected Uranus. Lawlessness. The latter part is how I feel about society's rules. Actually I feel the former part as well. But yeah... "The Psychiatrist: I want you to talk about women.
[waits for a few moments]
The Psychiatrist: Mr. Crown?
Thomas Crown: I'm sorry?
The Psychiatrist: Women. You get to talk about women.
Thomas Crown: Oh, I enjoy women.
The Psychiatrist: Enjoyment isn't intimacy.
Thomas Crown: And intimacy isn't necesarily enjoyment.
The Psychiatrist: How would you know? Has it occured to you that you have a problem with trust?
Thomas Crown: [smirking] I trust myself implicitly.
The Psychiatrist: But can other people trust you?
Thomas Crown: Oh, you mean society at large?
The Psychiatrist: I mean women, Mr.Crown.
Thomas Crown: Yes, a woman could trust me.
The Psychiatrist: Good. Under what extraordinary circumstances would you allow that to happen?
Thomas Crown: A woman could trust me as long as her interests didn't run too contrary to my own.
The Psychiatrist: And society? If ITS interests should run counter to your own?
[Crown smiles]
The Thomas Crown Affair
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11nahyt
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posted February 04, 2013 02:54 AM
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Originally posted by peregrine:
So he is a scorp Jupiter?
Nah...0 degree sagittarius for both Jupiter and neptune. Falling in his firsT conjunct 24dg scorp asc IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted February 04, 2013 02:54 AM
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Originally posted by peregrine:
I wonder if it is because I have an unaspected Uranus. Lawlessness. The latter part is how I feel about society's rules. Actually I feel the former part as well. But yeah... "The Psychiatrist: I want you to talk about women.
[waits for a few moments]
The Psychiatrist: Mr. Crown?
Thomas Crown: I'm sorry?
The Psychiatrist: Women. You get to talk about women.
Thomas Crown: Oh, I enjoy women.
The Psychiatrist: Enjoyment isn't intimacy.
Thomas Crown: And intimacy isn't necesarily enjoyment.
The Psychiatrist: How would you know? Has it occured to you that you have a problem with trust?
Thomas Crown: [smirking] I trust myself implicitly.
The Psychiatrist: But can other people trust you?
Thomas Crown: Oh, you mean society at large?
The Psychiatrist: I mean women, Mr.Crown.
Thomas Crown: Yes, a woman could trust me.
The Psychiatrist: Good. Under what extraordinary circumstances would you allow that to happen?
Thomas Crown: A woman could trust me as long as her interests didn't run too contrary to my own.
The Psychiatrist: And society? If ITS interests should run counter to your own?
[Crown smiles]
The Thomas Crown Affair
shoot, I meant to give the thumps up. Am posting at work, internet was acting up. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted February 04, 2013 03:00 AM
I have lots of aspects with uranus, and I consider myself a rebel at HEART. I don't like adhering to any societal rules,okay ''like'' is not the right word here, I abhor rules as per a certain society, as for guidelines I don't give a feck about them either. I don't follow them at work, I try to crash them with savvy contortions and more than often they have to change the guidelines/rules or whatever the heck they call them at work!But am kinda a law conscious citizen. May be because am cappy rising  IP: Logged |
AllanBeau
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posted February 04, 2013 05:43 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
But not being charged one night at a hotel is the same concept as a waiter giving you back too much change. You'll bend one but not the other?
Yeah I guess you are right lol I have never had it happen to me before. I'm more sympathetic towards the waiter because I have worked in the food industry before. IP: Logged |
its_aqua
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posted February 04, 2013 08:27 AM
When I was a kid, I was extremely honest, didn't even like cheating at games or tests at school. Now that I'm on my early tweenties, and seeing how dishonest people nowdays are, I'd say that my actions depend on the situations. I always know what's the honest thing to do, it's a whole different story if I do it or not. If I found a cell phone on the street I would call it back and give it back without second thoughts. If I found money on the street I would keep it because the other option would be to turn the money to the cops and I highly doubt they wouldn't spend it. My Jupiter is in Leo in 3rd.IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 04, 2013 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
shoot, I meant to give the thumps up. Am posting at work, internet was acting up.
freudian lisp!  leos are very honest and honorable IMO. IP: Logged |
Pisces-Sweety
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posted February 04, 2013 08:54 AM
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peregrine
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posted February 04, 2013 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
Nah...0 degree sagittarius for both Jupiter and neptune. Falling in his firsT conjunct 24dg scorp asc
a lucky cheat! i've always thought jupiter in cap trine sun would make one uncatchable in crime. (not me btw just soomeone i know) IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted February 04, 2013 10:34 AM
I have found more than 5 or 10 bucks on the floor and street at one time. If there is no identification and the police department isn't anywhere near my location I am keeping the money. Other things such as finding someone's personal belonging in a say the school library or public place with security sure I'll return it.IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted February 04, 2013 11:01 AM
so jupiter placement rules honesty? i thought it was mercury?? IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows
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posted February 04, 2013 11:26 AM
 On a scale of a 1-10, I would say an 8. I hate lying.. Only would do it if I had to or new I'd get away with it and never see the person again.
My jupiter is
western-Sagittarius 7th
eastern-scorpio 7th IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted February 04, 2013 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by peregrine:
freudian lisp! leos are very honest and honorable IMO.
Yeah, I am both...too honest... IP: Logged |
anno_lucis
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posted February 04, 2013 01:44 PM
jupiter in 4th (lots of us here, it seems)
in aquarius. square to pluto and mars. sextile moon. quintile saturn and lilith.it's like modern day robin hood just with less charity. jk. sorta. fixed in the idea i'll never conform 100%. don't believe that makes me immoral, or dishonest. others will disagree. it is what it is. IP: Logged |
11nahyt
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posted February 04, 2013 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by peregrine:
freudian lisp! leos are very honest and honorable IMO.
My Leo moon agrees IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted February 04, 2013 04:53 PM
Well...not really. In general, I'll tell half truths if I really want to. I'm not a liar though and I strive to keep to my word; Jupiter in Scorpio. I'm honest about it as well - if you catch me, I'll say so.  IP: Logged |
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