posted February 26, 2013 04:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Angel Cara:
rofl why does he cause so much chaos just by sitting there and existing? ^^;

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Lol I was wondering about that, too.

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Are Scorpio Moons toxic?

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Not in my experience..

-But- Sun square Pluto people.. that's another story.

I knew a guy who had it and a Pisces Moon and he was a psychic vampire, you could just *feel* your energy being taken away from you.. scary..

But it's not the same thing as here, the guy the OP describes sounds like the ultimate seductive type, but err why do I find it hard to believe that he's got *such* a great impact on -every- girl ?

posted February 26, 2013 05:03 PM            

I have had some time to ponder on this and I belive he is like a soul-mate kind of guy to me, that is - he is here to teach me something. I think the lesson is to come closer to God.

I can´t explain it, his energy is a bit negative to me, that´s all. So God is telling me to stay strong and positive so that I can learn and grow from this experience.

I might be making it up, but I think this guy liked me at some point, and things just didn´t work out. Our energies clashed. So he´s finding it hard to deal with it. You know.. the awkwardness when things turn sour..

He doesn´t have moon in scorpio. I´m the moon in scorpio.

He has sun square pluto, and I have read this aspect and I think it is what is causing him all this turmoil. I think that when a person spreads alot of energy around him, it´s because he has alot of energy inside. Simple as that. So basically, he (sun square pluto) is in turmoil, I think.

I don´t know him, so I can´t be sure. Maybe he´s not in turmoil at all. But I saw him last week, he looked really frustrated when he saw me. I think I awake something negative inside him too. It´s always two-sided.

rom what I can tell sun square pluto makes a mans life complicated. They are attracted to femme fatales. They are attracted to things that are frustrating for them.

I have been cold to him, so I know that I´m not innocent. (I might be classified as bi-polar, idk) but yeah, I just felt negative energy from him, and so I stayed clear.

It´s hard being so plutonic as I am and dealing with another plutonic person, everyday.

posted February 26, 2013 05:09 PM            

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Originally posted by SparklingSag:
I saw this and thought pluto. My ex had scorpio moon and mars in scorpio...i would describe him as toxic, he was selfish (aries sun, but a very immature one). Hmmmm, he seemed to suck my happy saggie/libra energy and constantly offended my leo mooon

Sparkling

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I will admit, as a plutonic person I might be toxic at times. It´s not that I´m trying to be, it´s just that we watery people don´t have good limits. I feel like I am you and you are me.. that kind of thing. So if you feel bad, I feel bad. If I feel bad, you feel bad.

In other words I easily take on energies and give them of just as easily. Same thing with this guy.

Other non-watery people see this as overwhelming sometimes, and I understand, because they are more aware of their identity and limits so the ynotice this manipulation, whereas we watery people don´t. We´re just floating around lost in eachothers minds, or so we think. It´s all so confusing...

I have almost 50% of my char in water. 30% is in earth, and only 5% in air. So I pick up on energies alot.

It helped writing about this. But I think it´s time for me to force myself to detach. I guess even if he continues to stare at me I will just have to detach and try to not look. If he ever feels like talking o me or being my friend I will be there for him, but otherwise I will just live my life and think about protecting myself from negative energy. I heard you can imagine a white light surrounding you, and you wll be safe. That´s what I´ll do. I also just want to say a prayer to God: Dear God, make the atmosphere in my class peaceful and joyful for all. I love you.

(Sorry, I just felt like ending this thread with a prayer)

posted February 26, 2013 05:11 PM            

Look for Saturn and Pluto contacts in synastry, tight ones, for the "karmic" tie or "soulmate" connection, whatever you wanna call it.

Saturn and Pluto usually make things.. "heavy" borderline depressive/negative.

And I can see the kind of energy the guy may exude.. Sun sq Pluto *can* be very tormented, from what I've seen.

So maybe you're not just making this up!
Maybe you pick up on his pent up frustration or what. Orrr you're projecting your own subconscious stuff on him. Hard to tell.

posted February 26, 2013 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Little Doe:
Aw, you are too sweet! <3

You know what, I stumbled across a thread where you showed you eye, and he has eyes/gaze similar to yours! They are beautiful.

And thanks for the link.

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posted February 26, 2013 05:53 PM              

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Originally posted by Little Doe:
This is a subject that is taboo. There is a guy in our class and he is new. Ever since he started going to ourclass at uni the atmosphere in the room changed. One girl after the other is falling for him, and not in a good way. And the worst thing is no one talks about it. he is taboo, lol. He has only been going in our class for a year and he´s already broken two hearts, and is in the process of breaking at least three more, no joke.

He started in our class and I was immediately DRAWN to him, but he pushed me away.

He is the guy that sits in the back and observes everyone, like he´s Dracula, and he never interacts with women. He creates a tension in the room, and I have noticed that all and I mean ALL my female friends have changed, since he came into our class. They have become more irritable, the always look around to see where he is. And the worst thing is, they hae become competitive, and paranoid. He is sucking all us females dry of our energy!

I looked into his chart and he has alot of pluto, among other things he has

Mars in scorpio
Sun square pluto
Mars conjunction pluto

and i BET he is a scorpio rising, so he has pluto conjunction asc in nata.

You know what I´m talking about - the guy that sits in the back and never talks, but his energy is so powerful and unfortunately, so dark (plutonic) that it dominates the whole room.

I am plutonic myself, so I am familiar with this energy, I have it too. But not as much as him.

He is not a bad person, just misguided, but because he has power, he is toxic.

I just wanted to share this.

I feel like he is possesing me with his mind. His pluto conjuncts my ascendant, and meny other planets too, including sextiles my sun. Exausting.. I have to see him every day. Boy, this is so hard..

Can anyone relate?

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posted February 26, 2013 06:11 PM            

I've know three highly toxic people in my life and they did not have similar charts.
Some people have mental problems.
Some people are sick and make others around them feel sick.
Some people are narcissists and so on.

It's not about their chart! It goes deeper than that.

posted February 26, 2013 06:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
I am so beyond positive that being TOXIC is not a chart thing.

I've know three highly toxic people in my life and they did not have similar charts.
Some people have mental problems.
Some people are sick and make others around them feel sick.
Some people are narcissists and so on.

It's not about their chart! It goes deeper than that.

I am sure that you could meet two people born on the same day and one of them could be extra positive and the other toxic... even if they were *twins*.

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I agree! I think that something is bothering him.

This is my theory, and after I say it I will not respond to this thread, because I need to LET him GO.

He seems tortured, in a sexual way. I thought he just really loves women and that´s why he can´t get enough, but he seems empty, like no matter how meny women love him he in´t happy. So I think he´s gay.

posted February 26, 2013 06:20 PM            

I can see where you're coming from but I still think that you *can* see a -potentially- toxic person from a chart.. something in their chart is going to point to it.

But then obviously, the more evolved types will have a different vibe from the less evolved ones. That's a constant in astrology.

posted February 26, 2013 06:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Little Doe:
I will admit, as a plutonic person I might be toxic at times. It´s not that I´m trying to be, it´s just that we watery people don´t have good limits. I feel like I am you and you are me.. that kind of thing. So if you feel bad, I feel bad. If I feel bad, you feel bad.

In other words I easily take on energies and give them of just as easily. Same thing with this guy.

Other non-watery people see this as overwhelming sometimes, and I understand, because they are more aware of their identity and limits so the ynotice this manipulation, whereas we watery people don´t. We´re just floating around lost in eachothers minds, or so we think. It´s all so confusing...

I have almost 50% of my char in water. 30% is in earth, and only 5% in air. So I pick up on energies alot.

It helped writing about this. But I think it´s time for me to force myself to detach. I guess even if he continues to stare at me I will just have to detach and try to not look. If he ever feels like talking o me or being my friend I will be there for him, but otherwise I will just live my life and think about protecting myself from negative energy. I heard you can imagine a white light surrounding you, and you wll be safe. That´s what I´ll do.

I also just want to say a prayer to God: Dear God, make the atmosphere in my class peaceful and joyful for all. I love you.

(Sorry, I just felt like ending this thread with a prayer)

Thanks all.

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posted February 26, 2013 06:41 PM            

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Originally posted by venuasianman:
this thread reminds me of that one Britney Spears song........you know......"ya yaad yaya, taste of your poison paradise, I'm addicted to you, cause you know that you're......" Oh, what is the name of that song!?

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posted February 26, 2013 06:47 PM              

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Originally posted by Little Doe:
I agree! I think that something is bothering him.

This is my theory, and after I say it I will not respond to this thread, because I need to LET him GO.

He seems tortured, in a sexual way. I thought he just really loves women and that´s why he can´t get enough, but he seems empty, like no matter how meny women love him he in´t happy. So I think he´s gay.

he eems to idealize masculinity alot. And oddly, the one woman who he finds most interesting (me) is a tomboy. And that´s all.

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^i am very much like that. yes i find tomboys very hot. i try to convert them. i'm not gay. but i love masculine women. i attract tomboys too. i am pretty in a masculine way.

posted February 26, 2013 06:48 PM              

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Odette,

I can see where you're coming from but I still think that you *can* see a -potentially- toxic person from a chart.. something in their chart is going to point to it.

But then obviously, the more evolved types will have a different vibe from the less evolved ones. That's a constant in astrology.

ETA: Good luck with letting him go, then, Little Doe! ~

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posted February 26, 2013 06:49 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
What exactly are "toxic" aspects in a chart that would show a person is "toxic"? Any examples?
Thanks!

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I guess it depends on what you mean by "toxic".

If we're talking about psychic vampires.. usually afflicted/prominent Neptune/Pisces especially if it's combined with some strong/afflicted Pluto/Scorpio.

posted February 26, 2013 06:54 PM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
whatchu tink of my chart doux?

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You are a bad, bad person!

You're like.. the worst.. ever.

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posted February 26, 2013 06:56 PM              

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
You are a bad, bad person!

You're like.. the worst.. ever.

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Jk, I love you even though you're messed up.

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posted February 26, 2013 06:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
I am so beyond positive that being TOXIC is not a chart thing.

I've know three highly toxic people in my life and they did not have similar charts.
Some people have mental problems.
Some people are sick and make others around them feel sick.
Some people are narcissists and so on.

It's not about their chart! It goes deeper than that.

I am sure that you could meet two people born on the same day and one of them could be extra positive and the other toxic... even if they were *twins*.

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posted February 26, 2013 07:28 PM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
i tink my moon makes me toxic coz even if i do bad things to u, u will shtill wub me and forgive me lol!

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Lol no way! Swallow your ego, would you

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
It was an expression to describe his effects on women.
This can all be seen in the natal chart

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posted February 26, 2013 07:32 PM              

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Lol no way! Swallow your ego, would you

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posted February 26, 2013 07:52 PM            

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This can all be seen in the natal chart

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