posted March 16, 2013 06:15 AM            

Instead of focusing on external signs of power / dominance to keep your ego intact, you should try to cultivate inner peace and be grateful that you were even born and are alive.

Hopefully you'll grow more mature soon and realize how futile your desires / fantasies are.

Good luck with setting your priorities straight ~

posted March 16, 2013 07:00 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I don't think a chart itself defines evil, but it does give potentialities. To use an oversimplistic metaphor your natal chart is like a coin and it can land heads or tails. Just because you're evil doesn't mean that all the babies born with you are evil as well.

DISCLAIMER: Once again I emphasize the natal chart doesn't show one to be evil, it shows potentialities. I don't doubt that many people born right alongside swampys are good, decent people that I'd be happy to know. I myself have a Leo ascendant. I'm just trying to explain how her chart COULD "set the frame of mind" for her particular manifestation of evil. But the chart didn't make her evil, that was free will and/or poor nurturing that made her astrological energy go bad.

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I'm glad you wrote that, Pixie.

When people talk about being evil I instantly want to compare their charts to those who were truly evil - and in this case also happened to want to "lead their country" (and infact, did).

So the most obvious choice would be Hitler.
And here is, do you see any similarities...?

posted March 16, 2013 07:34 AM            

Uranus is in retro too and is conjuncting his ascendant and opposing his mercury. That could indicate his sharp but unstable (for the lack of better words) frame of mind.

I also noticed that his MC/IC axis is in critical degrees. This might relate to Hitler's thirst for power which stemmed from the problems and trauma he encountered before he became the evil person we all knew.

posted March 16, 2013 07:43 AM              

me on the other hand jajaja!

But seriously u have to be elected, which means u need to have a feel of the ppl. I have cancer mc conj leo moon.

Then u actually need feasible plans aside from jailing all those masculine signed women. Its economics. Its wisdom. What repurcusions decisions have on trade on allies, etc. Ima taurus sun. Machiavelis sign.

posted March 16, 2013 07:43 AM            

It doesn't matter what your chart looks like, you decide how to express the energies in it.

People can -and do- change throughout their lives. But their charts don't, so obviously there's free will at play.

Astrologically speaking, hard aspects always have (more) potential for being expressed negatively. Especially when malefics are concerned (Saturn, Mars, Pluto and to a lesser degree Uranus and Neptune).

posted March 16, 2013 08:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
It's a matter of choice.

It doesn't matter what your chart looks like, you decide how to express the energies in it.

People can -and do- change throughout their lives. But their charts don't, so obviously there's free will at play.

Astrologically speaking, hard aspects always have (more) potential for being expressed negatively. Especially when malefics are concerned (Saturn, Mars, Pluto and to a lesser degree Uranus and Neptune).

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Oh hell, I have hard aspects to all of those! Mars opposite Saturn, Sun opposite Saturn, Sun conjunct Mars, Pluto square Venus, Uranus opposite Moon, Neptune square Sun and Mercury...and to cap it all off, a big fat Leo Ascendant!

There's no hope for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Batten down the hatches people...sod working in care, I'm going for world domination.....

posted March 16, 2013 08:15 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^^That guy's eyes are very scorpionic.

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posted March 16, 2013 08:26 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I don't think a chart itself defines evil, but it does give potentialities. To use an oversimplistic metaphor your natal chart is like a coin and it can land heads or tails. Just because you're evil doesn't mean that all the babies born with you are evil as well.

And yes, assuming you're being sincere and not just seeking attention, you're evil. I'm defining evil here not only for its own sake (perhaps to prove your own superiority, or even the sadistic power of the pleasure it gives you) but as a desire to abuse and kill others both to get ahead and "improve" society as well. Of course evil souls such as yourself don't always consider themselves truly evil but more pragmatic and doing what must be done, and may even think themselves good & moral, such as Dolores Umbridge. I mention her because as I read your thread I thought of these 2 scenes with her in it, of what you'd (metaphorically speaking at least) would like to one day be:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxMQQitMiX4

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEHZLRZhVvQ

Of course I speak metaphorically (like how fairytales can be metaphors of showing real sociopolitical conditions of the time), but nevertheless those scenes came to mind as I read what you shared. Like you she's narcissistic, moralistic, hates young people, takes politics VERY seriously, and desires power to torment and kill others, and very likely (assuming her a real person for a moment and adapting to her own wizard world) was much like you are now when she was your age. And when she's in a position to get away with it she'll even admit it (though the fact that she can use a patronus, that is the glowing cat in the 2nd scene, shows she actually believes that her evil serves the greater good, otherwise she would be unable to create it). IOW, evil.

[b]But as to why astrologically speaking:

Your Leo ascendant (which can make one opinionated and narcissistic, even evil as yourself when it goes bad) looks like a likely cause, and in fa
ct my mother also has a Leo ascendant and, like you, is narcissistic and believes herself better than others and will inflict what suffering she can on them out of bitterness, revenge for slights real and imagined, and even just for fun (she feels clever and proving her superiority when she manages to hurt others and get away with it). That's not to say you'd get along (besides the rampant egos you 2 have you both also have some major disagreements on certain things, and she'd see herself as right to destroy you as you would yourself right in destroying her).

Speaking of Leo, you have an evil manifestation of that energy, and that along with what you said of political desires & narcissism also reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVAN2o-5pYM

An Aquarius Sun can also be very much at odds against society (and Aqua Merc adds to being opinionated to add to the Leo ascendant), and while this is sometimes good it can also manifest in evil ways. I read a fascinating book on the Age of Aquarius and it explained how the Aquarian future might be dystopian rather than utopian (again, a coin that can land on heads or tails), and your attitude as displayed here would prevail among elites in the dystopian version. I'm not sure how your Saturn in Aqua would affect things, but I'd guess that would make you more conservative and willing to go slow, OR it could make you aspire to be the ultimate judge, jury, and executioner as you pretty much say you do.

Beyond that, your Cappie Mars would encourage ambition and politicking to get to the top, which you express above. I think your other Cappie placements (and Scorpio Pluto) would only exacerbate that.

DISCLAIMER: Once again I emphasize the natal chart doesn't show one to be evil, it shows potentialities. I don't doubt that many people born right alongside swampys are good, decent people that I'd be happy to know. I myself have a Leo ascendant. I'm just trying to explain how her chart COULD "set the frame of mind" for her particular manifestation of evil. But the chart didn't make her evil, that was free will and/or poor nurturing that made her astrological energy go bad.

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Wow! Thank you so much!
I'd always get Slytherin on those Harry Potter house tests.

posted March 16, 2013 08:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Lunae:
Well, all I could say is that Hitler's chart is very difficult, since he has quite a number of planets in their detriment and making hard aspects with each other. His chart ruler Venus is exalted by sign and house, but it's in retro mode.. not a good sign.

Uranus is in retro too and is conjuncting his ascendant and opposing his mercury. That could indicate his sharp but unstable (for the lack of better words) frame of mind.

I also noticed that his MC/IC axis is in critical degrees. This might relate to Hitler's thirst for power which stemmed from the problems and trauma he encountered before he became the evil person we all knew.

And.. No, I don't think this chart is similar to swampys' chart. So swampy, you are not evil. But truth be told, you also have lots of potential.

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Thank you!

posted March 16, 2013 08:32 AM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
I dont think u can rule swampy!

me on the other hand jajaja!

But seriously u have to be elected, which means u need to have a feel of the ppl. I have cancer mc conj leo moon.

Then u actually need feasible plans aside from jailing all those masculine signed women. Its economics. Its wisdom. What repurcusions decisions have on trade on allies, etc. Ima taurus sun. Machiavelis sign.

Ok gtg my haircuts done lulz ciao!

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posted March 16, 2013 10:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
It's a matter of choice.

It doesn't matter what your chart looks like, you decide how to express the energies in it.

People can -and do- change throughout their lives. But their charts don't, so obviously there's free will at play.

Astrologically speaking, hard aspects always have (more) potential for being expressed negatively. Especially when malefics are concerned (Saturn, Mars, Pluto and to a lesser degree Uranus and [u]Neptune[/u]).

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I can agree with what you said but don't underestimate "Neptune"... and I made a topic just for that: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/218435.html

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posted March 16, 2013 10:17 AM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
I can agree with what you said but don't underestimate "Neptune"... and I made a topic just for that: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/218435.html

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posted March 16, 2013 10:17 AM              

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posted March 16, 2013 10:21 AM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by swampys:
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posted March 26, 2013 07:56 AM            

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Originally posted by swampys:
I'd always get Slytherin on those Harry Potter house tests.

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I was just listening to some wrock (wizard rock, inspired by the Potterverse) and remembered you as I heard this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVJVW558CIQ

posted March 26, 2013 08:09 AM            

Also, how do get your chart to look like that from astro??? My results just come up on a really small grid, so.

posted March 26, 2013 08:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Maelstrom:
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Batten down the hatches people...sod working in care, I'm going for world domination.....

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Also support the free will :-)
Swamp: how about channeling some of the aspects into using your creativity that I saw on a thread yesterday

posted March 26, 2013 08:44 AM            

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