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Topic: Craziest Synastry You've Ever Seen
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Snorkel
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posted April 01, 2013 09:58 AM
  
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Originally posted by Jkitty:
Would you please POST that crazy synastry? I'd really like to see it. Also, I thought that a "double whammy" meant the SAME aspect worked both ways such as his mars trine her saturn/her mars trine his saturn, his mars opposing her venus/her mars opposing his venus. If it can be ANY aspect,don't think it's that unusual.
Okay now I'm confused. If that's what "double whammy" means then...nvm lol.  Uploaded with ImageShack.us
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quinnlycanastro
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posted April 01, 2013 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by Snorkel:
Yeah it's actually not a real astrological term or phrase, just a slang thing lol. I remember the first time I read it was on these boards and I pretty much did a double-take (no pun intended) and laughed out loud.But a double whammy (if I got this right), is when the same planets aspect each other in synastry. Like, the guy's Mars aspects the woman's Pluto AND her Mars aspects his Pluto, too. That's a "double whammy".
The official meaning of a double whammy is the SAME aspect both ways  Has to be her mars sq his Pluto AND his mars sq her pluto.
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MadameButterfly
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posted April 01, 2013 02:12 PM
Quinnly is right. And a lot of these are minor aspects. Hard aspects are the most significant in a synastry.Also, the absence of any Sun-Moon interaspects tells of a lack of fundamental bonding. That's where the most powerful connections are formed.
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Orange
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posted April 01, 2013 04:40 PM
Double Whammy ( a Stephen Arroyo's term) is when an energy signature is repeated twice. Not necessarily the same aspect, it could be any connection between two planets.
For example, even having a Sign in Libra in one partner and having the natal Sun in the natal 7th house for the other partner , is considered a double whammy. Two planets, any connection/vibration between them. IP: Logged |
Snorkel
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posted April 01, 2013 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by Orange:
Double Whammy ( a Stephen Arroyo's term) is when an energy signature is repeated twice. Not necessarily the same aspect, it could be any connection between two planets.
For example, even having a Sign in Libra in one partner and having the natal Sun in the natal 7th house for the other partner , is considered a double whammy. Two planets, any connection/vibration between them.
Yeah this is what I thought it meant initially too. I didn't know it carried over even to houses and signs, though. So basically as long as there's the same themes present there in both charts.
I remember reading someplace too that any and all aspects the planets make to one another in synastry, are good and better than no aspects at all. Thanks for this, because I feel a bit better about things, now. IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted April 01, 2013 04:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
Double Whammy ( a Stephen Arroyo's term) is when an energy signature is repeated twice. Not necessarily the same aspect, it could be any connection between two planets.
For example, even having a Sign in Libra in one partner and having the natal Sun in the natal 7th house for the other partner , is considered a double whammy. Two planets, any connection/vibration between them.
this is my understanding as well of a DW. so venus conjunct pluto one way and pluto trine venus another way would be a DW. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted April 01, 2013 05:07 PM
There are actually both definitions out there and being used by astrologers.I think most use the term Double whammy in the sense Arroyo does. Though of course if it is even the SAME aspect repeating, it has an extra significance. IP: Logged |
Jkitty
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posted April 01, 2013 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
There are actually both definitions out there and being used by astrologers.I think most use the term Double whammy in the sense Arroyo does. Though of course if it is even the SAME aspect repeating, it has an extra significance.
I think you're right and because there's more than one definition being used, it creates confusion. It's like the difference between graduating verses graduating with honors. Maybe we need a stronger term for when it's the same aspect going both ways between both planets. Double Whammy with Honors? Double Whammy the hard way? DWH? Any ideas? IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
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posted April 01, 2013 05:38 PM
HDW - hardcore double whammyOr heavy double whammy ------------------
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Jkitty
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posted April 01, 2013 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
There are actually both definitions out there and being used by astrologers.I think most use the term Double whammy in the sense Arroyo does. Though of course if it is even the SAME aspect repeating, it has an extra significance.
Yes, and it has created all kinds of confusion because of the watered down Arroyo version since it's very easy to have a dozen "Double Whammies" if you count any aspect; it has virtually no significance. Maybe we need a different term for having the SAME aspect repeating like DWH for "Double Whammy the Hard way"? Any ideas on what we can call the SAME aspect? IP: Logged |
Jkitty
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posted April 01, 2013 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
HDW - hardcore double whammyOr heavy double whammy
I LIKE it! HDW  IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
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posted April 01, 2013 05:49 PM
I'm glad then. Ahhh, I've always wanted to invent something *dances*  ------------------
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Odette
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posted April 01, 2013 06:02 PM
I consider it a double whammy regardless of the aspect.
It depends on the astrologer... Not everyone agrees that it has to be the same aspect. see: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014823.html IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted April 01, 2013 06:06 PM
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it's very easy to have a dozen "Double Whammies" if you count any aspect
Actually it's not. You should look it up in your synastries! It is FAR from common to have as many double whammies as she has in her synastry. Often there are are none or maybe a couple... even if you take *all* aspects in consideration!! (using an orb of 3-5) IP: Logged |
Jkitty
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posted April 01, 2013 06:08 PM
Now that we've got definitions estabished, how about this synastry:Venus/Mars HDW 2/2
Mars/Saturn HDW 2/3
Sun/ASC dw 1/4
Sun/Jupiter dw 0/5
Moon/ASC dw 6/6
Moon/MC dw 5/3
Mercury/Venus dw 0/1
Uranus/Neptune dw 3/5
Mercury - Mutual 0
Venus - Mutual 0
Mars - Mutual 4
Jupiter - Mutual 5 I'm only counting sextile, trines, squares, oppositions and conjunctions with orbs up to 5 degrees or 7 degrees for sun or moon. No minor aspects are included. IP: Logged |
Snorkel
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posted April 01, 2013 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by Jkitty:
Yes, and it has created all kinds of confusion because of the watered down Arroyo version since it's very easy to have a dozen "Double Whammies" if you count any aspect; it has virtually no significance. Maybe we need a different term for having the SAME aspect repeating like DWH for "Double Whammy the Hard way"? Any ideas on what we can call the SAME aspect?
To be fair to Arroyo, he is the one who coined the phrase and realized the significance of the phenomenon in synastry charts. Saying that the guy who discovered them in the first place, has a "watered down" idea of them isn't entirely accurate I don't think.
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Originally posted by Odette:
Actually it's not.You should look it up in your synastries! It is FAR from common to have as many double whammies as she has in her synastry. Often there are are none or maybe a couple... even if you take *all* aspects in consideration!! (using an orb of 3-5)
This is what I'm saying. I've seen more than a few synastry charts in recent years, and never have I seen any with that many mutual planetary pair-ups like that. It was enough to make me sit up and take notice. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 01, 2013 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by Snorkel:
I bet no one can beat this :Mars-Pluto double whammy
Venus-Pluto double whammy
Mars-Moon double whammy
Moon-Venus double whammy
Sun-Uranus double whammy
Sun-Neptune double whammy
Venus-Neptune double whammy
Sun-Pluto double whammy Yes, this is just one set of people, one synastry chart. And the moon falls in Scorpio in the composite chart. I win, I want my candy lmao. My example aside, I'm really curious to hear any other crazy synastry you guys have seen in ONE particular chart because I'm curious as to how bad (or good, depending on your viewpoint) it gets...
How close? xx
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Snorkel
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posted April 01, 2013 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
How close? xx
Moon/Mars, one is 2 degrees, the other is 1
Venus/Pluto, 2 and 1
Mars/Pluto,exact aspects both ways
Moon/Venus, exact and 1 degree
Sun/Uranus, 1 and 6
Sun/Neptune 2 and 2
Venus/Neptune 1 and 1
Sun/Pluto 1 and exact
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Jkitty
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posted April 01, 2013 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
Actually it's not.You should look it up in your synastries! It is FAR from common to have as many double whammies as she has in her synastry. Often there are are none or maybe a couple... even if you take *all* aspects in consideration!! (using an orb of 3-5)
Now that we've got definitions estabished, how about this synastry: Venus/Mars HDW 2/2
Mars/Saturn HDW 2/3
Sun/ASC dw 1/4
Sun/Jupiter dw 0/5
Moon/ASC dw 6/6
Moon/MC dw 5/3
Mercury/Venus dw 0/1
Uranus/Neptune dw 3/5
Mercury - Mutual 0
Venus - Mutual 0
Mars - Mutual 4
Jupiter - Mutual 5 I'm only counting sextile, trines, squares, oppositions and conjunctions with orbs up to 5 degrees or 7 degrees for sun or moon. No minor aspects are included.
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Lioness
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posted April 01, 2013 09:18 PM
I have a lot of dw with fishy, I've never counted them...
We also have the 2 of the same planets in each others same house.It's very karmic for me... It's such deep feelings... IMO.. Unexplainable... There seems to be some sort of strong bind connected with each other....
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Snorkel
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posted April 01, 2013 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by Jkitty:
Now that we've got definitions estabished, how about this synastry:Venus/Mars HDW 2/2
Mars/Saturn HDW 2/3
Sun/ASC dw 1/4
Sun/Jupiter dw 0/5
Moon/ASC dw 6/6
Moon/MC dw 5/3
Mercury/Venus dw 0/1
Uranus/Neptune dw 3/5
Mercury - Mutual 0
Venus - Mutual 0
Mars - Mutual 4
Jupiter - Mutual 5 I'm only counting sextile, trines, squares, oppositions and conjunctions with orbs up to 5 degrees or 7 degrees for sun or moon. No minor aspects are included.
Okay, I'm giving you all the candy now.
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Odette
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posted April 01, 2013 09:34 PM
Jkitty -
Well have a look at a few charts (10-20) and let us know what you find. I don't personally have many DW in my relationships and charts I've looked at. For a romantic relationship I'd be interested in Moon/Venus/Mars/Pluto.. DW involving those.
It's pretty amazing that the OP has so many double whammies with those planets. It would make for a lot of intensity IP: Logged |
Jkitty
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posted April 01, 2013 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
It's pretty amazing that the OP has so many double whammies with those planets. It would make for a lot of intensity
Yes, indeed! Lots of intensity!! Good to have some space from time to time. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 01, 2013 10:26 PM
If its going to be long term, the composite is going to be really important. Not saying Synastry isn't important. But pay attention to Composite for marriage. IP: Logged |
Snorkel
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posted April 02, 2013 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by Jkitty:
Yes, indeed! Lots of intensity!! Good to have some space from time to time.
Yeah, I agree. Now I don't think it's really such a good idea after all. Besides he hasn't really approached me in earnest other than a few comments he'd made a good while ago, anyway. quote:
Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
If its going to be long term, the composite is going to be really important. Not saying Synastry isn't important. But pay attention to Composite for marriage.
No. No marriage lol. There were a couple good aspects and luminary placements in the composite - I saw a moon-venus aspect which is something I always like to see, but other than those few things, admittedly, the composite is probably very "Meh" so I'm just going to leave it be.
That aside, to give people an idea of what I was talking about when I mentioned conjunction-heavy synastry...this is the aspect chart for myself and the person I know is my "twin soul".
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