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hannaramaa
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posted May 03, 2013 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Case studies:

1. Leo woman/Sag man: her first love. Everything seemed perfect for about a year. First time they both had sex (18-19 yrs old). Thought she'd be with him forever and ever.
Guy cheated with three different girls (all mutual friends)... yes - three!!
She found out because she saw him walking around with one of these girls one day and kissing her.
He never explained himself or apologised - after that. They just avoided each other. They never even had a proper break-up.
They avoided each other for about 2 yrs.. In the mean time Leo girl meets Aqua guy - gets engaged, gets pregnant - plans on getting married (now 22).
Sag guy comes back all of the sudden, out of the thin blue sky - asking her not to get married because he is in love with her. Typical Sag behaviour! She says no.
The end.


2. actually I have to go.... I'll come back with more..




Rofl. Sounds typical! And yes, I think Aquas and Sags are very twin-signs indeed! My friend's dad was a Sag and cheated on her mom twice, she's a Taurus mind you, but he is still married to her and moped around when she left him for a year.

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posted May 03, 2013 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chirp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Case studies:

1. Leo woman/Sag man: her first love. Everything seemed perfect for about a year. First time they both had sex (18-19 yrs old). Thought she'd be with him forever and ever.
Guy cheated with three different girls (all mutual friends)... yes - three!!
She found out because she saw him walking around with one of these girls one day and kissing her.
He never explained himself or apologised - after that. They just avoided each other. They never even had a proper break-up.
They avoided each other for about 2 yrs.. In the mean time Leo girl meets Aqua guy - gets engaged, gets pregnant - plans on getting married (now 22).
Sag guy comes back all of the sudden, out of the thin blue sky - asking her not to get married because he is in love with her. Typical Sag behaviour! She says no.
The end.


2. actually I have to go.... I'll come back with more..


This...is true. My Sag sister's general stance towards me is dismissive; I noticed a few weeks ago that when I just write her off and stop trying to make an effort with her, suddenly she seems more interested in making an effort to interact with me.

My Sag moon ex is the same way, he'll let weeks pass and it's like as soon as he realizes I'm not talking about him anymore...which means I'm probably not THINKING about him...he shows up again.

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1. Leo woman/Sag man: her first love. Everything seemed perfect for about a year. First time they both had sex (18-19 yrs old). Thought she'd be with him forever and ever.
Guy cheated with three different girls (all mutual friends)... yes - three!!
She found out because she saw him walking around with one of these girls one day and kissing her.
He never explained himself or apologised - after that. They just avoided each other. They never even had a proper break-up.
They avoided each other for about 2 yrs.. In the mean time Leo girl meets Aqua guy - gets engaged, gets pregnant - plans on getting married (now 22).
Sag guy comes back all of the sudden, out of the thin blue sky - asking her not to get married because he is in love with her. Typical Sag behaviour! She says no.
The end.

I think its the idea of "commitment" that is uncomfortable;being with the same person, day in and day out for years etc.

I have an open relationships with my Taurus boyfriend(he has Venus and Asc in Gemini)and have been with another guy(Libra sun/moon)during our relationship.

I think its the love of variety that attracts me to another. I don't think I'd do well in a "closed" setting that involves just getting to know one person.

Sagittarius, to me, is superficial but deep(if you understand the contradiction). They can write a book about the essence of a relationship and what it means to "love" etc. etc. but cannot really practice what they preach.

Sagittarius is the philosopher and its total opposite energy(Taurus and Cancer), is more interested in the daily detailed "act" of loving and not so much the philosophy.

My Asc and Moon are agreeable in choosing a stable partner but my Sun/Jupiter/Neptune conjunct are more focused in the "idea" of the partner than the actual person.

And as far as friendship goes, is it easy to "push" us away?

Interestingly, I never spend more than a week with one friend.

a Leo friend of mine often said that I seem to "rotate" friends around me and not really have a stable/intense bond with any of them: This is very true.

I seem to like the Aquarius Sun/Sagittarius Sun energy though -as it seems to be the only one that sticks around over time.

I think the one thing that can def push me away is someone who is always talking "we". The Libra guy talks a lot of "we", but thank God that any plans he makes seldom come to fruition as he can barely make a decision anywho.

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posted May 03, 2013 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
Interestingly, I never spend more than a week with one friend.

a Leo friend of mine often said that I seem to "rotate" friends around me and not really have a stable/intense bond with any of them: This is very true.


Any Gemini in your chart, I wonder (specifically Venus/Mars)? All the Sagittarians I know (me included) bond with a select person/group of people. We then have a large number of acquaintances who we enjoy being completely superficial with. My friends are my friends partially because they are enjoyable to be around for extended periods of time.

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posted May 03, 2013 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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YEP! He did just that, kind of. I told him that and he still texted me it was like he was obvlious to what I'd just said. And then nothing... but I still think he misses me. I would like to work it out, but after you tell someone "I will never talk to you again," you look like an a.hole going back, and I don't know how to do it smoothly, especially because it's going to take me getting over my pride or his over his (but he's a Cap moon, and they have a LOT more patience than I do. I'm like "should I wait? Should I not? What do I do?") and I'm afraid he'll write me off should I try to explain myself. Then again, he didn't try to stop me.

Did you reply to the text he sent you after that you told him you will never talk to him again?

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posted May 03, 2013 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Did you reply to the text he sent you after that you told him you will never talk to him again?


No, because I thought that would be going back on my word lol. I thought "If I reply, that's encouraging." and plus I was angry. He texted me again the next night, and then nothing since. It's been 10? days? I want him to explain himself but he was very reserved anyway, so I feel it's pointless to ask.

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posted May 03, 2013 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL.If you plan to follow up on your words,I don't get why you would want to wait for him . Well I suppose, you must have your reasons to be angry at him.Yes, indeed,the right thing to do is follow up on your words .You say what you mean,and mean what you say.You have to show him this is how you roll.Good.

That being said,if you want to know if he cares about you/ misses you,you can try sending him a text telling him that you didn't answer him the second time because you were still mad or that you expected him to explain himself.I don't know what kind of issues you had with him.If you feel it's important that he explains himself and that you can't have it any other way,then tell him that.Then wait for him to react.

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posted May 03, 2013 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Xiiro

Any Gemini in your chart, I wonder (specifically Venus/Mars)? All the Sagittarians I know (me included) bond with a select person/group of people. We then have a large number of acquaintances who we enjoy being completely superficial with. My friends are my friends partially because they are enjoyable to be around for extended periods of time.

Nope. Well, not unless you count the Nodes.

Moon in Cancer,
Venus in Scorpio,
Mars in Libra.

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posted May 03, 2013 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LOL.If you plan to follow up on your words,I don't get why you would want to wait for him . Well I suppose, you must have your reasons to be angry at him.Yes, indeed,the right thing to do is follow up on your words .You say what you mean,and mean what you say.You have to show him this is how you roll. Good.

That being said,if you want to know if he cares about you/ misses you,you can try sending him a text telling him that you didn't answer him the second time because you were still mad or that you expected him to explain himself.I don't know what kind of issues you had with him.If you feel it's important that he explains himself and that you can't have it any other way,then tell him that.Then wait for him to react.


Ha, I KNOW he misses me. I follow his blog... every other day it's something up there about missing people, a girl leaving, etc. I mean he put up IFHY lyrics by Tyler, The Creator. Romantic, I know. -_- Not that I was after romance. I just wanted answers.

Gahl... I know I should be the one to text him 'cause he probably thinks I don't want to hear from him but he's passive-aggressive and I'm scared of his response, lol.

ETA: So, I wrote him. I figure the worst he can do is be mean, or not even respond and then I'll know. *Shrug*

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posted May 03, 2013 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
Nope. Well, not unless you count the Nodes.

Moon in Cancer,
Venus in Scorpio,
Mars in Libra.


Interesting, especially with your Moon and Venus. Is your Pluto in Libra too, where is your Mercury?

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posted May 03, 2013 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Xiiro, also wanted to thank you for your post although I know it's a bit late. Prior to these past six months Sags very much confused me; always being described as aloof and whimsical, and yet in my experience they've been very emotional signs. But I understand now, they are very present people and not out of touch with their feelings at all. I really like them even though they can drive me crazy sometimes, I get along better with them than Leos!

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posted May 04, 2013 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ha, I KNOW he misses me. I follow his blog... every other day it's something up there about missing people, a girl leaving, etc. I mean he put up IFHY lyrics by Tyler, The Creator. Romantic, I know. -_- Not that I was after romance. I just wanted answers.

Gahl... I know I should be the one to text him 'cause he probably thinks I don't want to hear from him but he's passive-aggressive and I'm scared of his response, lol.

ETA: So, I wrote him. I figure the worst he can do is be mean, or not even respond and then I'll know. *Shrug*


Oh?

Do keep us updated

Gosh,is it a common thing with cap moons?The passive aggressiveness?I know my cappy misses me too,because guess what? I follow him too -_- hehe.

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posted May 04, 2013 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He wrote me back but he was being moody with me so I know he's mad. I think when Cappies are mad they get like that but they're loyal so they still respond? I don't know. Maybe he's still butthurt but he knows my reasoning was justified, or maybe he's just immature. It's whatever.

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posted May 04, 2013 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ awwww he likes you

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posted May 04, 2013 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ hmmm...you do know that he'll make you pay smh right? for the 2 times you didn't answer...wait for it sista

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posted May 04, 2013 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^^ hmmm...you do know that he'll make you pay smh right? for the 2 times you didn't answer...wait for it sista

The two times I didn't answer the 10 days I didn't talk to him? I'm sure. We have moon opposition Pluto either in synastry or the composite, can't remember. It doesn't feel intense or anything though so I'm not sure he even cares, I don't feel intensely at least. Oddly enough.

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posted May 04, 2013 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So we talked a little bit yesterday and later that night we were both playing pool (but at different bars) and I had a couple drinks and left him a voicemail. It was a normal voicemail, nothing racy whatevs.

Today:

"You left me a voicemail last night."
"I know, lol. Just me being be me, don't mind it."
"I'll try not to."

OH well okay. Screw you too then! What an a.hole.

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posted May 05, 2013 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What did you expect him to say? You told him 'don't mind it'!

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posted May 05, 2013 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know...

Whenever you mention a conversation between the two of you.. I just find him anti-social.
Does he ever actually *talk*?
Is it always monosyllabic?

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posted May 05, 2013 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's funny because I know a dozen Librans (male & female) with a Scorpio Mercury. They are some of my favourite people so I always assumed Scorpio Mercury was the best Mercury for me (since mine is Pisces). They are always talkative and conversation flows.
I also know a couple of Sagittarian girls with Scorpio Mercury and they are also quite friendly and easy to talk to.

But - surprise surprise - the *one* person I have ever met with this Mercury who I don't feel I can communicate with happens to be a Sagittarian male.
I just don't think he has social skills and he seems mentally *tired*.. like he is always about to yawn...
When he does talk - it's always very brief, not just with me - but with everyone.

Anyway - this kind of sucks ^ from my perspective because I really thought Scorpio Mercury was my favourite Mercury ever and that I could never have such problems with them.
But *sigh* - I guess it can happen with anyone! :\

I mean - he is also very immature though.
Maybe if I met the 40 yr old version of him, we'd have more to chat about. I'm emotionally *old*.

Or maybe if I was an uglier version of myself. He seems deeply disturbed by his attraction. Very deeply disturbed O_O

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posted May 05, 2013 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
So we talked a little bit yesterday and later that night we were both playing pool (but at different bars) and I had a couple drinks and left him a voicemail. It was a normal voicemail, nothing racy whatevs.

Today:

"You left me a voicemail last night."
"I know, lol. Just me being be me, don't mind it."
"I'll try not to."

OH well okay. Screw you too then! What an a.hole.


To be completely honest with you,I don't *feel* his response as being a negative one,I don't *feel* that he is being a jerk to you. I haven't followed all your convos with him on LL but the vibe I get from your posts is that you seem to like him as a person not necessarily in a romantic way, not because of his astrological placements either.I also *feel* that he genuinely likes you. I believe that you read too much in his response,it feels as if you are super analyzing everything he says.Again, the *feeling* I get from you is that you are over critical of the things you say.You probably run your convos a dozen times in your head,trying to find faults in the words you said to him....You have Saturn in the 7th house too, if am not mistaken ya?

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posted May 05, 2013 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Xiiro

Originally posted by AscTaurus:

Nope. Well, not unless you count the Nodes.

Moon in Cancer,
Venus in Scorpio,
Mars in Libra.

Interesting, especially with your Moon and Venus. Is your Pluto in Libra too, where is your Mercury?

Interesting, especially with your Moon and Venus. Is your Pluto in Libra too, where is your Mercury?


Sorry for the late response.

My Pluto in in Scorpio and my Mercury is in Capricorn.

All I know is, I tend to feel very claustrophobic when the friendship /relationship becomes to focused on "we".

I really prefer to go at it alone. If a person starts to be too intense, I pull back(sometimes indefinitely).

I attract a lot of Gemini/Virgo/Sagittarius/Aquarius folks and, to me, they are not the "ball and chain" types(well, atleast the ones that come into my world)

I cannot really fathom where this "detachment" comes from.

It could possibly be that my Moon is in 3rd house? Or that it forms an opposition to mercury? I really can't figure it out.

I have to also add that my Ascendant is also questionable. But I've chosen it, because of an inaccurate birth time: Taurus seems to "fit" well with me.

Sun Sag
Moon Cancer
Mercury Capricorn
Venus Scorpio
Mars in Libra
Jupiter in Sagittarius
Saturn in Scorpio
Neptune in Sagittarius
Uranus in Sagittarius
Pluto in Scorpio

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posted May 05, 2013 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok! I have to take my little stab at Sag/Scorp Mercury - back.

I just realised another guy I was on really good terms with and who was totally fun to talk to and chat to - was likewise Sag with Scorp Mercury.. But he had Moon/AC conjunct my Sun in Aries. And interestingly all of his ex girlfriends were Aries O_O Every single one. He was interested in astrology so we talked about this quite a bit.

So maybe it's not the Scorpio Mercury after all.

I honestly don't know what it is... but he definitely sounds like that annoying Sagittarius I know.

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posted May 05, 2013 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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To be completely honest with you,I don't *feel* his response as being a negative one,I don't *feel* that he is being a jerk to you. I haven't followed all your convos with him on LL but the vibe I get from your posts is that you seem to like him as a person not necessarily in a romantic way, not because of his astrological placements either. I also *feel* that he genuinely likes you. I believe that you read too much in his response,it feels as if you are super analyzing everything he says.Again, the *feeling* I get from you is that you are over critical of the things you say.You probably run your convos a dozen times in your head,trying to find faults in the words you said to him....You have Saturn in the 7th house too, if am not mistaken ya?

I do have Saturn in the 7th... how was that not a negative response? We didn't talk after that. I didn't analyze...I said "Don't mind it" and he said "I'll try not to" as in "I'll try not to mind it." And yeah I, for some reason, do like him as a person. He likes/liked me in a romantic way I think.

No, I don't run the convos through my head. I mean I'm guilty of overanalyzing in general, yes. Oh...I wonder if you're getting that vibe because I said "Just me being me, don't mind it"? LOL I'm analyzing! You wouldn't believe how often I get that but to me it's just natural to do. I don't even consciously know I'm overanalyzing or anything.

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posted May 05, 2013 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
I don't know...

Whenever you mention a conversation between the two of you.. I just find him anti-social.
Does he ever actually *talk*?
Is it always monosyllabic?


Yeah he does, he's just moody as hell and probably not a fan of me because I flipped out on him a little bit, but I had my reasons.

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