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hannaramaa
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posted May 05, 2013 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
It's funny because I know a dozen Librans (male & female) with a Scorpio Mercury. They are some of my favourite people so I always assumed Scorpio Mercury was the best Mercury for me (since mine is Pisces). They are always talkative and conversation flows.
I also know a couple of Sagittarian girls with Scorpio Mercury and they are also quite friendly and easy to talk to.

But - surprise surprise - the *one* person I have ever met with this Mercury who I don't feel I can communicate with happens to be a Sagittarian male.
I just don't think he has social skills and he seems mentally *tired*.. like he is always about to yawn...
When he does talk - it's always very brief, not just with me - but with everyone.

Anyway - this kind of sucks ^ from my perspective because I really thought Scorpio Mercury was my favourite Mercury ever and that I could never have such problems with them.
But *sigh* - I guess it can happen with anyone! :\

I mean - he is also very immature though.
Maybe if I met the 40 yr old version of him, we'd have more to chat about. I'm emotionally *old*.

Or maybe if I was an uglier version of myself. He seems deeply disturbed by his attraction. Very deeply disturbed O_O


ROFL! Yep. Sounds like this guy. He's in grad school right now, and doesn't live the healthiest lifestyle, and I don't think is happy where he's at so I can see him being mentally tired.

I love Scorpio mercuries too! They're so blunt and don't get turned off by my natural aggression or way of talking too.

I've met another Sag with Scorpio Merc before and the conversation was very entertaining, but he also had a Libra moon! It could be the Libra?

Frankly I'm surprised (but waiting) for this guy to lash out because I tend to hurt Sag/Scorpio people a lot unintentionally. They are very sensitive folk in my experience.

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posted May 05, 2013 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I do have Saturn in the 7th... how was that not a negative response? We didn't talk after that. I didn't analyze...I said "Don't mind it" and he said "I'll try not to" as in "I'll try not to mind it." And yeah I, for some reason, do like him as a person. He likes/liked me in a romantic way I think.

No, I don't run the convos through my head. I mean I'm guilty of overanalyzing in general, yes. Oh...I wonder if you're getting that vibe because I said "Just me being me, don't mind it"? LOL I'm analyzing! You wouldn't believe how often I get that but to me it's just natural to do. I don't even consciously know I'm overanalyzing or anything.


It's not a negative response, Hanna. He said ''you left me a voice mail'' I don't know what the message was about but your response sounded like you were sulking for some reason. You then tell the guy not to mind your message since it was only you being you. Sorry,but what the heck does that mean?

Yup, I do get the over analyzing vibe from you a lot.He must too.Caps are very intuitive people and very moody,all saturn dominant people are.I am too.I tend to show it more to people I really like.Caps also take everything you say literally,they won't sugar coat things.If you tell him,''don't mind me'',that's exactly what he will do.I don't know what you expected him to say when you told him ''don't mind it'' Did you expect him to say ''No, actually I do mind''? Because obviously he did.Otherwise he wouldn't have gotten back to you.

Anyways,that's my take

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hannaramaa
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posted May 05, 2013 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh... I didn't think of it like that. And yes he takes me so literal! Awww... I guess when I read that I heard it in my head in an annoyed tone. I'm always worried i'm annoying him lol. He's like Shrek and I'm the Donkey energy wise.

Well I said that because I meant I wasn't expecting him to call me back. So I said that as in "Oh it's okay, you don't need to call me back." You would think I would be better at communication than this, haha. But I do have Mercury square Saturn.

I don't LIKE analyzing but I don't know how to turn it off! Mars conj. ASC, Gemini ASC, Mercury sextile ASC, Sun sextile ASC, and the list goes on.

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posted May 05, 2013 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually... To be honest Hanna...

It sounds like (from just the exchange that you posted on this board), that by him mentioning the voicemail to you, he was trying to open it up to you to have a conversation with him about it. I can't tell what exactly you are trying to get out of this guy from the way you talk about him on the board, but it sounds like you are interested in him and are trying to play it off like you are cool and collected. The problem is, the more that you try to play it off in this way with him, the more likely you are to deter him from wanting to maintain any type of friendship/relationship with you. You aren't addressing him directly (and I'm not saying he's not at fault for this either, but I'm just telling you what I see from my very limited vantage point). If a guy said to me what you said to him about 'not minding' the voicemail, I'd think that he was hiding something because he wasn't being direct and I would start to distrust him (how would you take it if the roles were reversed?). To be honest, if you could express just a little bit of what it is that is upsetting you or confusing you about his behavior (because obviously there is SOMETHING that is upsetting/confusing you) it might help both of you to have a smoother/easier friendship.

Anyway... I'm sure you'll just ignore my thoughts anyway, but I thought I'd put in my two cents.

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posted May 05, 2013 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why would you say I'd ignore you? I appreciate your input...if you've commented on my threads before and I didn't respond it wasn't intentional.

Again! There I go getting a new perspective from your post. I need that. I'm Sun, Mercury, and Venus in Aries so I have a tendency to be narrow minded and only see things how I see them until a different angle is pointed out - despite my useless tendency to overanalyze. :P

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posted May 06, 2013 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Hanna

SO...NOW you are second guessing your ability to communicate? LOL

I believe I've interacted enough with you on this board to allow myself to be completely honest with you.You didn't expect him to call or text you back but he did girl!By playing it off only conveys a feeling of disinterest on your part which I believe he picked up and probably bummed him out, ''I'll try not to" he said right. I believe you play it off not to get disappointed in the end.Like if you don't expect anything, you won't be disappointed when you don't get it.


I like what Enchantress said,I too believe that he wanted you to talk to him regarding your voicemail message and playing it off like you did will gradually put him off trying to talk to you.

I'm trying to gauge what you really want by reading all your posts on this guy,TBH,I've a distinct feeling that although you like him,you are looking for reasons to end up not liking him.

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posted May 06, 2013 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@Hanna

SO...NOW you are second guessing your ability to communicate? LOL

I believe I've interacted enough with you on this board to allow myself to be completely honest with you.You didn't expect him to call or text you back but he did girl! By playing it off only conveys a feeling of disinterest on your part which I believe he picked up and probably bummed him out, ''I'll try not to" he said right. I believe you play it off not to get disappointed in the end. Like if you don't expect anything, you won't be disappointed when you don't get it.

I like what Enchantress said,I too believe that he wanted you to talk to him regarding your voicemail message and playing it off like you did will gradually put him off trying to talk to you.

I'm trying to gauge what you really want by reading all your posts on this guy,TBH,I've a distinct feeling that although you like him,you are looking for reasons to end up not liking him.


Okay, so naturally I've been thinking about this (thread)... and I wanted to clarify something. People tell me I overanalyze, but I honestly don't feel I do. When people say this I THINK they mean to say...I jump to conclusions, which is true. When I think of overanalyzing I think of being indecisive until you've asked everyone and their grandma their opinions, and then you finally decide on a point of view.

Him and I text every day. When I said "Don't mind it," etc. I meant it as in "The voicemail didn't mean anything, I was just being random." I should have said that instead of what I did because it's clearer, but oh well. I see now he wasn't being rude, but I took it that way at the time.

I don't trust him yet because we met online and he just acts peculiar sometimes, BUT part of me does feel he is a sincere guy. Like, I think he might actually not be an a.hole. I have done a pretty good job of keeping him at arm's length, emotionally, so I will do my best to reverse that now and stop being the kind of a.hole I'm afraid of meeting....

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posted May 06, 2013 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rosedl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

If you a very close friend, Sags will always be your friend. They may wander off and you may not hear from them in awhile, but they are there is you need them and hold you closer in their hearts then you might suspect. If you are just a acquaintance or casual friend, they often disappear.

My ex is a Sag and we are still friends, and I know he would go to the mat for me any day of the week.

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posted May 06, 2013 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
It could possibly be that my Moon is in 3rd house? Or that it forms an opposition to mercury? I really can't figure it out.

It could be this. I'm more inclined to think Uranus's involvement with your other Sag planets is the major factor. I'm not sure why it didn't dawn on me when you mentioned it earlier.

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posted May 07, 2013 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Okay, so naturally I've been thinking about this (thread)... and I wanted to clarify something. People tell me I overanalyze, but I honestly don't feel I do. When people say this I THINK they mean to say...I jump to conclusions, which is true. When I think of overanalyzing I think of being indecisive until you've asked everyone and their grandma their opinions, and then you finally decide on a point of view.

Him and I text every day. When I said "Don't mind it," etc. I meant it as in "The voicemail didn't mean anything, I was just being random." I should have said that instead of what I did because it's clearer, but oh well. I see now he wasn't being rude, but I took it that way at the time.

I don't trust him yet because we met online and he just acts peculiar sometimes, BUT part of me does feel he is a sincere guy. Like, I think he might actually not be an a.hole. I have done a pretty good job of keeping him at arm's length, emotionally, so I will do my best to reverse that now and stop being the kind of a.hole I'm afraid of meeting....


Best of luck...hope you didn't take what I said in a wrong way....Am sure you'll be fine Stay positive!

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posted May 07, 2013 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Best of luck...hope you didn't take what I said in a wrong way....Am sure you'll be fine Stay positive!

No, not at all! I like blunt women, lol. Plus it makes me feel better that someone (and someone that only knows the tip of the iceberg behind this adventure) believes he likes me. He is making me pay for it at the moment by ignoring me and being rude. Either way whatever the outcome is I know I'll be fine.

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posted May 08, 2013 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
No, not at all! I like blunt women, lol. Plus it makes me feel better that someone (and someone that only knows the tip of the iceberg behind this adventure) believes he likes me. He is making me pay for it at the moment by ignoring me and being rude. Either way whatever the outcome is I know I'll be fine.

Good Am blunt, I know.

I'm involved with a 100% cappy atm,so I'm kinda tuned in to their behaviour.LOL

See, I knew he was going to make you pay. That's because he cares about you and your response disappointed him.Haha..LOL
If you genuinely likes him,and if you have approached him again after that last text,don't initiate contact with him again.Let him be and YES GIRL you'll be fine whatever the outcome

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posted May 08, 2013 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Real quick though, he's a Sag sun. Wouldn't that differ from a Cap sun? Granted he has a Cap moon. Maybe it'll double it if he has a Cap moon.

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posted May 08, 2013 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ My interest has both his Sun and Moon in Cap. He wouldn't have sent me a second text if I didn't answer his first...I don't know exactly how this guy behaves with you but am sure if we share notes (LOL) we'll catch the differences

Besides, Cap suns almost never believe they are in the wrong,they are so stuck in their way of looking at things that they refuse to accept that they've made a mistake,mostly because they feel they will lose face infront of someone they care about.When they care about you,they want to impress you,they want to come off as The Boss. Sun is how you express your ego,moon is how you express your emotions.

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posted May 08, 2013 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I can't imagine sun AND moon in Cap. I like Cap suns but so far I'm not enjoying this Cap moon experience in a guy. My friend has a Cap moon and it took a lot of prodding for her to finally see I was for real and keep me around, and she's extremely loyal to me too but man! Capricorn placement people can be a lot of work!

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posted May 08, 2013 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Yes they are. They make you work so hard to get their trust because they want you to prove to them that you are worth it.Like I said, I see through his schemes but I refuse to play by his rules but I never once doubt his feelings for me because I know he would NEVER invest so much of himself in me if he didn't care about me.That being said, that doesn't deter me from doing what I have to do.With Caps you can't allow yourself to be too emotional once you know they like you because they will take you for granted.I won't allow it to go any further until he SEES me for who I am, until he LISTENS to the words that I'm saying to him,really listen to me.

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posted May 08, 2013 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^^ Yes they are. They make you work so hard to get their trust because they want you to prove to them that you are worth it. Like I said, I see through his schemes but I refuse to play by his rules but I never once doubt his feelings for me because I know he would NEVER invest so much of himself in me if he didn't care about me.That being said, that doesn't deter me from doing what I have to do.With Caps you can't allow yourself to be too emotional once you know they like you because they will take you for granted.I won't allow it to go any further until he SEES me for who I am, until he LISTENS to the words that I'm saying to him,really listen to me.

Yeah I hear ya! And yes they do take you for granted! I wonder if earth moons are like that? He hasn't invested that much into me, he can't really. Although... I think I got through to him once recently when he was like "If you don't want to talk to me any more then that is that." and I reminded him that I knew that, but continued talking to him so what does that say? He finally admitted (albeit indirectly) he pushes people away a lot and was going to work on not doing that. And now we're here....ugh, I was still justified! I initiated conversation three times. The first time it seemed normal, and the next two times I didn't push it and stopped. He was being rude anyways.

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