posted May 03, 2013 11:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Chirp:
Translation : "Let's talk about my favorite subject - me".

Watch, this is the part where I don't tell you anything...hold on...

Okay, wait.

Yeah! Now, okay what I would've told you would go right here :

___________________________, ____________.

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posted May 03, 2013 11:34 AM              

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Originally posted by hikoro:
i wanna see your chart.
you're hilarious!

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posted May 03, 2013 11:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Little Doe:
They took advantage of my generosity and empathy to the point where I slightly went insane.
Hereīs a little example - they copied my essays, tormented me with hour-long stories of their personal problems, talked crap about the "beautiful people" and called me stupid when I defended them, tried to get me to reveal personal stories so they could use it against me, and all this without ever giving me anything in return, but a headache.

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Crying over essays and having had to listen to sagas of personal problems sounds..."not so generous and empathetic"...to me. And if you truly saw souls past the masks, you wouldn't have gone by popular opinion and used a whole lot of adjectives.

People with depth brush aside others weaknesses instead of writing a long detailed description of how energy-vampires with creepers have made their lives hell. Too much of Neptune loves to play victim and is blind to their own doings.

Sounds pretentious to me.

posted May 03, 2013 11:39 AM              

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Originally posted by depth:
Crying over essays and having had to listen to sagas of personal problems sounds..."not so generous and empathetic"...to me. And if you truly saw souls past the masks, you wouldn't have gone by popular opinion and used a whole lot of adjectives.

People with depth brush aside others weaknesses instead of writing a long detailed description of how energy-vampires with creepers have made their lives hell. Too much of Neptune loves to play victim and is blind to their own doings.

Sounds pretentious to me.

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Hey, it's possible to be a deep, empathetic whiner, I'm one, but other than that, go on, go on...

posted May 03, 2013 11:46 AM              

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Originally posted by Little Doe:
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Maybe some of them didnīt even try to take advantage but ended up confused because I didnīt set boundries. Who knows?

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little doe, what is your sun sign? maybe you should put up your chart in personal readings, there are some people there willing to read it. Also use the lindaland search engine, search mars in 12th; you may find it interesting.

posted May 03, 2013 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Chirp:

Hey, it's possible to be a deep, empathetic whiner, I'm one, but other than that, go on, go on...

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This seriously didn't sound like whining to me. It sounded like subtle self-glorification to my mercury/pluto conjunction...I felt like I was reading a movie script - The twilight saga - breaking dawn.

posted May 03, 2013 12:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Chirp:

Hey, it's possible to be a deep, empathetic whiner, I'm one, but other than that, go on, go on...

(Hikoro muzzles me)

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posted May 03, 2013 01:22 PM            

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Originally posted by geea:
7th guardian, come on, stop psych-analising someone based on some few posts, on a public forum.
Everyone has their weakness, she was even asking herself ”am i being hypocrite?”

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She gave me a lot to work with in those two posts. I can also say - what people want to hear (the Libra way ^^) for the sake of harmony, but that wouldn't help her in any way.

Tu perversa mica, iar ai chef de scandal?! Tu meriti o bataie la fundic, daca tot ziceai ca - Gemeni's predispusi la violenta. !

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Originally posted by Little Doe:
Not trying to sound pretentious with the title, first of all.

But I do feel ilke I have too much depth in every day life.

My asc, moon, venus, saturn and pluto are in scorpio.
I also have mars in 12th house.
I have asc sextile neptune, mars sextile neptune and sun conjunction neptune (wide orb, but still).
I have asc conjunction pluto and mars conjunction pluto.

I know scorpio and pluto is about intensity mostly, but most of the scorpio placements are in pisces decan, and besides - I think scorpio is a very deep sign that always digs deep into peoples souls, without even trying to.

Thatīs basically me in a nutshell. I walk into a room and I donīt see any masks. I am socially blind. I have no idea how people present themselves socially, as that is an unknown concept to me: Presentation.
I have no idea how I come across to others either. All I know is that when I walk into a room I see souls. I SEE people. Not what they want to show, not the picture theyīve been painting up for years. No, I see them as they truly are.

This is not always good.

For example, alot of people that others consider creepy/stupid somehow manage to get to me, and I end up helping them/talking to them/whatnot, because I see past the outer screepyness. Yes, I know these people are scum, theyīre bad for me, and deserve no pity, and yet I canīt help but feel sorry for them.

I asked others how they handle these kind of people. They say they just ignore them, or act cold and brush them of. I know thatīs a healthy attitude, but I wonder - donīt they feel bad/cold.

I mean, am I naive to think these people deserve to be treated with warmth?

I find it hard to accept that some people are more stupid and uninformed than me. If I meet someone like that I get so sad.

Iīm at uni, and I tried to help people out when they didnīt understand certain things, but I ended up sinking to their level instead of helping them. Now I feel like itīs pointless trying to help others. Almost like God wanted this, included this non-equality in his plan.

How do you deal with this problem and do you think itīs an astrological thing (water placement thing)?

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Originally posted by Little Doe:
Thanks so much for your oppinions.

As usual I failed to make myself completely clear.
No one is telling me that Iīm wrong for being too empathetic. Thatīs my own assumption.

Another thing - I have no friends. Thatīs not really the point, but it might be something to consider. I am the outsider/observer of the dynamics at my uni.

The people that others consider are creepy cling to me because I have alot of social empathy, it seems. These people are basically energy-vampires. Theyīre unintelligent and they have lived all their lives feeling put down by the society. So theyīve turned manipulative in order to conceal their unintelligence and incompetence.

Most people who get by well, and are sucessful at uni, avoid the unitelligent, shady people. And I understand why. You just canīt help them. Theyīre a lost case in a way. I feel horrible for saying it, but itīs true. I tried meny times helping them, and reasoning with them but they eventually started losing respect for me and treating me like a doormat. So I had to start setting limits. Now when I see them I donīt even say hi, because I fear they will start talking to me. Am I a hypocrite?

These people will remain stupid no matter what I do. And it pains me, so I must get the hell away. But it leaves me scared to my soul.

I think itīs scary looking into the eyes of an unitelligent, manipulative person. Not because they are selfish, because we all are in a way. But because I see so much emptieness in them. I want to help them, but I cant. They suck the energy out of you until you become like them.

My 11th house is empty. Itīs in virgo. So am I the server of humanity?

I also have
Uranus Trine Midheaven 3.17
Could this account for my unusual public persona?

Jupiter is in conjunction with Neptune 3.49, whatever that means.

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posted May 03, 2013 01:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Little Doe:
7th

Would you mind elaborating on your argument? I understand what youīre saying, and I know that I have issues that are similar to the people I feel drained by.
What do you think my inner deamons are about? Iīm just curious, If you feel like explaining.

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Think about your fears, things that you find hard to accept about yourself. Think about "hate" - the things you hate about others and how much of that hate is related to yourself - could be either related to similar traits that you find in yourself or weaknesses.

You laid down some if those in your past comments:

I am the outsider/observer. (feeling like you're not genuinely compatible with a specific group - one you'd like to be part of... feeling lonely among others groups, even neglected)

I am socially blind. I have no idea how people present themselves socially, as that is an unknown concept to me: Presentation. (could be related to introversion - lacks of interest in social skills as you might find them meaningless to the way you are - and probbaly not so fond of small talk with strangers/random people)

Most people who get by well, and are sucessful at uni, avoid the unitelligent, shady people. (you probbaly feel neglected as well - a feeling that's hard on yourself)

I have no friends. Thatīs not really the point, but it might be something to consider. (it's actually a strong point/need - friends as in "plural (many friends)" - that's an extroverted need... and you seem to be introverted - so you don't need many friends - but you do need at least one - someone with whom you can have deep talks about subjects of your interest, as loneliness it's a drag for anyone - even for introverts... we all need somebody with whom to share our interests, our goals and so on)

Yes, I know these people are scum, theyīre bad for me, and deserve no pity, and yet I canīt help but feel sorry for them. (scum is a strong word - the kind you'd address to bullies, rapists and so on... but if you feel like that about yourselves - again, you're being way to harsh on yourself... and this harshness can come as a sum of your hate)

I asked others how they handle these kind of people. They say they just ignore them, or act cold and brush them of. I know thatīs a healthy attitude, but I wonder - donīt they feel bad/cold. (feeling neglected - unimportant to those you find meaningful can be painful, but maybe you're looking the wrong way, wrong people - which happens quite often to so many people).

I mean, am I naive to think these people deserve to be treated with warmth? (again - that's very harsh... unless we're talking about bullies... you're not a rapist bully are you? sarcasm )

I find it hard to accept that some people are more stupid and uninformed than me. If I meet someone like that I get so sad. (that sounds cold)

Iīm at uni, and I tried to help people out when they didnīt understand certain things, but I ended up sinking to their level instead of helping them. (one hand brushes the other)

Theyīre unintelligent and they have lived all their lives feeling put down by the society. So theyīve turned manipulative in order to conceal their unintelligence and incompetence. (you don't know anyone that well other than yourself - and again, to harsh... )

Most people who get by well, and are sucessful at uni, avoid the unitelligent, shady people. And I understand why. You just canīt help them. Theyīre a lost case in a way. I feel horrible for saying it, but itīs true. I tried meny times helping them, and reasoning with them but they eventually started losing respect for me and treating me like a doormat. (same as in above posts)

These people will remain stupid no matter what I do. (...)

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posted May 03, 2013 02:19 PM            

if u consider creepy and shady 'loners' or socially awkward people, wouldn't you be in that 'category' too, since you stated that you have no friends?

posted May 04, 2013 03:35 PM            

I appreciate the analysis.

And geea:

Iīll look into it.

I started setting boundries yesterday and I already feel so refreshed, natural and much happier than ever. Itīs like Iīm starting to find myself by finally doing this. Itīs a blessing, thatīs what it is. Thanks agian.