posted May 16, 2013 05:11 PM            

Even if it's out of sign, the conjunction still counts. So I mean only people who have Mercury more than 10 degrees away.

I offered to do some chart readings for my friends on my facebook, and the first one I came across there was no Sun/Merc contact.

I only have one other experience with a chart like this and it's my bff. She doesn't talk a lot, surprising with her Aries Sun/Gemini Moon combo, but absorbs information like a sponge.

posted May 16, 2013 05:32 PM            

Mercury: 6"56'40 Libra

posted May 16, 2013 05:47 PM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
I find people with the conjunction sort of too... cunning, perhaps involuntarily. All they want to do is use their brain to please their ego and make it as comfortable as possible. No personal insults meant, just in case.

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posted May 16, 2013 06:42 PM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:

I find people with the conjunction sort of too... cunning, perhaps involuntarily. All they want to do is use their brain to please their ego and make it as comfortable as possible. No personal insults meant, just in case. I feel like they are tougher/smarter/more practical than me in these respects. I am very unfocused when it comes to ensuring my own comfort

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There's conjunct and then there's conjunct combust (5 degree or less). Combust is problematic, as there is this sense of the Sun consuming Mercury (this can happen with any close conjunction with the Sun--I have it with Eros and Chiron). But outside of 5 degrees, Mercury is more intact and assertive.

I have Sun conjunct Mercury in Gemini at 6 degrees. I would consider myself pretty tough-minded and I am not afraid to tell people that I'm probably a lot smarter than them. But egoism really isn't my thing. Egoism actually annoys my Mercury, slows him down and Mercury hates that. It has made me a fairly impartially observer in many ways, but also a pretty harsh critic as I'm not out to make people like me. I just care about what's true--that's my priority. My ego can take a backseat to that (and has on many occasions).

I don't consider myself very conniving. That's all too annoying and a waste of time and energy. And I have very little patience for people who are conniving. Just lay the cards on the table and let's deal with it fair and square--that's how my Mercury does things. Everything upfront, where I can see them and think things out. And I like everything to be out in the open so everyone can be on the same page--becuase if there's one thing that peeves a Mercury in Gemini is having to stop, slow down and explain things. I'm like "OK, here's all the cards we're playing with--do please try to keep up!"

posted May 16, 2013 07:20 PM            

Mercury and the Sun

My Mercury is 1° 0'20" Capricorn 4th house, Sun is 23° 4'5" Capricorn 5th house (natal). (or Sun 22° 52'5" - Mercury 4° 57'52" Aquarius 5th house - progressed) In the natal, it is my chart ruler (Virgo 7° 27'9") and most dominant planet (ASC/MC/NN). (prog, only has it in rule of 12th now ; ; 4° 19'47" ~ the change is fresh but really noticeable... contributing to the seclusive phase tPluto has me going through right now. oy vay).

I don't know too many folks with the conjunction actually!~ lol More than a few of my friends and relatives have a wide orb within sign or even more so the extreme distance. I don't what that says really. Maybe that it's been easier to communicate, or maintain friendships/relationships with those who have distance between their Sun-Merc for me... maybe it has something to do with like-mindedness? The few with tight cnj of Sun-Merc in my life are a lot harder to communicate with... (my Libra Sun mother (28 deg) and her (0 deg Rx) Scorpion Mercury (8th house). It took us years to understand each other, and we still can't discuss anything at length, even with this massive distance between us our conversations are quite short... I think both of our progressions have helped though, that's why it really has improved so much (her prog Sun-Mars exact cnj and Merc by 3 deg in Sagittarius, much easier for me to understand and relate to than when she was progressing back and forth with Scorpio). Another factor that may play into things is how the decan and duad/dwad get on between the two and their rulers in the chart. (Saturn rules both my Sun and Mercury, by sign, Saturn is in Scorpio and only makes a semisquare to Mercury, my Sun doesn't make any aspect to either Saturn or Mercury, though it is Ses my Ascendant node. But, Sun is in Virgo decan while Mercury is in Capricorn decan... Mercury is on the Capricorn duad (Aries 1st), and Sun is on Libra duad (Cap 10th). But, for my mother her natal Sun is in the Gemini decan, Virgo duad (Psc 12th), while her Mercury falls on Scorpio decan, duad (Aries 1st). They do sextile, and she does have this as well as her Sun cnj my own Pluto-Mars... but we do not communicate very well, or have not been able to the way I'd like. ; ; bahhh One thing I notice especially with her style of conversation, and mannerisms/habits during communication... she has little interest (will become quickly distracted, when the topic isn't at least a little, in some tiny way, related to her... so there is a bit of an ego-clash, or interest clash... another thing... not just with my mother... lol but a few of the others I do know of with the cnj aspect (tight), it's really hard to tell ya'll you're wrong about anything. It becomes increasingly difficult to admit to something wrong the closer the conjunction... X__X I don't know if that is -every- natal with this aspect, but quite a few in my life who share it... (though they are each fire/air polars... which has to be considered too.) lol it's just a little observation.~ nothing serious, no offense!~ <3

For me, I can converse at length, on many topics... my mother would call it the "switched at birth" issue. lol But, I am one of very few Earth Suns (only triple Earth) in our family, and one of the few I have a chart for with any emphasis on the planet Mercury. lol I reckon, well, sure... having Mercury in stellium with Neptune (DSC/BML ruler) and Jupiter (codominant) does make for... expansion and tactlessness that isn't always common for a Cap Mercury, cnj Sun or not... lol I can get carried away ^ evidenced? lol

But, really, it does have a lot to do with the other aspect/relations the Sun and Mercury make, and their solar/mercurial houses, both natal and traditional (Mercury-Gem over the 3rd, Solar-Leo 5th), a 3rd house Sun may be a bit more like those with Mercury-Sun cnj even when they lack the actual aspect. I'm pretty sure if my Mercury fell into my 5th house with my Sun, it would be a bit similar too because there already is that subtle energy at play between Sun domicile by house playing into the Mercury's expression. Something like that... haha

There's so many ways to look into things~ gotta love astrology.

posted May 16, 2013 07:33 PM            

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posted May 17, 2013 03:02 AM            

Since Mercury can never be more than 45 degrees away from the Sun in the natal, it is highly likely to be the most common aspect, other than generational planets to Sun.

Someone mentioned that the conjunction makes people too cunning, maybe, I feel it would make them more genuine as their thoughts and expression would match their expression of their Sun. Should those two signs differ or not have an aspect then maybe their expression would not match the impression they give?

posted May 17, 2013 05:09 AM            

He doesn't talk much at all but he communicates very well in writing and prefers to do so. He's also picks things up pretty quick and can almost verbatim feed back anything told to him even tho it looks like he wasn't paying attention.

posted May 17, 2013 06:49 AM            

I think there are much more members without aspect between the two planets, than having conjunction.

posted May 17, 2013 07:28 AM            

Pisces Sun at 5 degrees
Aquarius Mercury at 9 degrees

I do talk a lot, but only to people that I actually know. If someone that I don't know comes around, even if I have a friend also around, I just get all quiet and a really awkward look on my face.

posted May 17, 2013 07:32 AM            

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Originally posted by bonadea33:
I don't have Sun conjunction Mercury.

I think there are much more members without aspect between the two planets, than having conjunction.

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Yes.In my family,am the only one who has it.

posted May 18, 2013 05:42 AM            

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Originally posted by GemNymph:
There's conjunct and then there's conjunct combust (5 degree or less). Combust is problematic, as there is this sense of the Sun consuming Mercury

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I have it combust, 53 minutes of arc.

In my case though it is more that I often feel like Mercury consumes my Sun.

The most obvious expression of this Mercury/Sun for me is that I am fascinated with analysing (Mercury) personalities (Sun), not just my own, but generally. There is nothing more fascinating to me than the human psyche.