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Jkitty
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posted May 20, 2013 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus on the cusp of my 8th house, Venus in Pisces in the 6th. Inequality is sexy. If the guy will clean my house for me, that can count as foreplay; otherwise, I must tie him to the bedposts and use the featherduster on him Who says a bit of Virgoish influence can't be sexy?

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posted May 20, 2013 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
n8h ruler in 3h cnj ruler of n3h (naturally rulership of 8h = Scorpio/Pluto). n8h ruled by Aries,n3h ruled by Scorpio. nruler of 5h in 3h as well, cnj Eros exact. natal 5h ruler Capricorn, 5h Vertex ruled by Aquarius w/ Uranus in 4h Sagittarius cnj Venus ruler of 9h Taurus Moon, and 2h. (5h & rule/rulers - tenants - plus 8h & rule/rulers - tenants - plus Mars plus Venus plus Moon, *Eros, aspects of each - all factor into pleasures and sexuality, I believe.)

(just viewing natally) all of my needs come down to Scorpio-Sagittarius, the expression and motivations are very Scorpionic, but my needs, desires are much more Sagittarian. Partially why most of my partners have had Scorpio-Sagittarius-Aquarius strongly placed in their charts.

with age, things have definitely changed though, and the progression really shows through now. In my younger, wilder, and more experimental years, Pluto entwined Mars, but now pmars is cnj nSaturn-Eros (-pSaturn), - ruler of n5h. I'm clearly not as flexible about the things I want, but the drive and the degree of perfection I strive for is also higher. Coupled with pVenus in Capricorn (cnj nSun), there's an overall sense of knowing what I want, and expecting to get it. (exalt action by cnj?) Definitely lack patience in the romantic and physical needs departments nowadays... - But, this means through progression Taurus, Venus are now my 8h indicators... nMoon is in Taurus (9h) trine nSun/pVenus), in many ways it seems that maturity and experience have each enhanced the quality I strive for from myself and from my mate. I don't think it's too unbearable though, but much more controlled than when I had Mars-Pluto reign the realms of fleshy pleasures in my chart! lol I don't think I've become anymore sensual though, despite the progressions of Venus, Mars and ASC/DSC axis... but, maybe with time that will happen, (doubt it though, Sagittarius will house my pMars soon enough. But, it may be dampened once more by the domicile pMoon coming around the bend. >.<; Neptune as ruler of my nDSC seems to be less and less important in my relationships (let's see... crushes? since I've been off the market for some time now). Which is a welcome change, but now I'm curious how important that Mars will become as the DSC ruler in progression, already I've seen it become a drawing power. pVenus being cnj nSun has also drawn out a weird infatuation with Solars, as though Vertex node importance has flipped into antivertex node importance... (Venus was cnj Uranus the Vertex node ruler, now is cnj Sun ruler of antiVertex node... Aqua has given way to Leo appreciation). lol

Love for fire signs has been a constant, and I continue to find out about more of those blasted Scorpio Moons of my past~ I don't think that will ever change though, being Taurus Moon - seems to make for some magnetic opposition fancy - that, often proves irritating after some time. lol

If I've ever behaved like a Capricorn in the bedroom though, it's now... before it was likely more Scorpion-Sagittarian.. but with both Mars and Venus set to places that emphasize Capricorn qualities (via progressions)~ lol Capricorns are a favourite of mine (having long occupied my 5h), but maybe not everyone's cup of tea, being they can be too inexhaustibly frisky, and have such endurance. Aw well~ ^^; I look forward to having the pDsc Aries (my husband's had Aries occupy his for a long time now~ lol drawn to my Mars-Pluto XD methinks!) haha
(sorry any typos... enjoying Victoria's Day with meh family!~ ^^) tc~ <3

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posted May 20, 2013 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8H Aries
Mars in Virgo conj Asc

I hunt.

I am also a Fire Dragon and Earth Dragon. (if anyone believes in these things..)

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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
https://livevisionz.com/LOVE_AND_THE_8TH_HOUSE.html

found this link


Oh gawd wish I hadn't read this. My boyfriend has Aquarius on the cusp of the 8th.


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8th house is in Libra w/ it's ruler Venus in the 7th house. I'm a Libra Sun so this placement is a big focus within my chart.

I've got a whole lot of 7/8 house energy. I'm all about equality and boundaries in and out of the bedroom. I tend to view sex in itself with a casual attitude but I take relationships in general seriously. I guess with Libra in my 8th, along with a few planets including Pluto in the 8th, I can be pretty aggressive in the bedroom but I still like to keep it elegant and classy! The importance of equality comes in when one person is getting more out of the sexual relationship then the other which is not cool in my book. The experience should be enjoyable for both. Which is important to me as Libra 8th/house cusp-er.

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posted May 20, 2013 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini rules my 8th house.

I do like dirty talking..a LOT. i don't know what else Gemini would say about sexuality.

Since Mercury rules Gemini..and I have Mercury in Sagittarius in the 2nd house..i guess that says something, too. I am adventurous in bed. I like role playing, dirty talk, multiple partners, doing it in weird places, being watched, etc..

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posted May 21, 2013 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ruler of my 8th house is Venus in 8th. It has two good aspects and one quintile.

I still think that 8th house has nothing to do with sex. For me was in still is 5th house, house of sex.

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posted May 21, 2013 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 8th house has something to do with sex, in how you relate to others in sexually intimate ways, how you share yourself. But the basic sexual profile is determined by the 5th house.

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posted May 21, 2013 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would you think of a guy who has:

Cancer on 5th house cusp, with Moon in Sagittarius conjunct Sun - both on the MC, but also squared by Saturn-Vertex on the DESC.

Scorpio on 8th house cusp, with Pluto in Libra in 7th house, squared by Venus in 11th house (Venus being intercepted 7th house ruler and also ruling 2nd house).

Uranus is in 8th house itself.


It seems quite a contradictory placement to me.


BTW I think the sign on the cusp is just a starting point, it has to be read together with where its ruler falls (Signwise and also conjunctions to other planets). Often it seems that the sign of the ruler comes out even more strongly than the sign on the cusp itself; however that is probably totally dependent on the individual chart.


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posted May 21, 2013 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
The 8th house has something to do with sex, in how you relate to others in sexually intimate ways, how you share yourself. But the basic sexual profile is determined by the 5th house.

That is right explanation.

Thank you,
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posted May 21, 2013 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got Aries on the 8th with Mars in Aquarius in the 5th.

Hot and cold = totally me. One minute, I'm into it...and the next I'm totally over it. Sometimes I go into periods where sex is the only thing I can think about for days, followed by weeks of thinking that sex is the most pointless, barbaric act known to man (probably doesn't help that I've got Capricorn on the 5th and that Aquarius is intercepted in my chart, hahaha).

I need a mental connection to be able to be turned on. If not, I sort of just spend my time reducing the situation to what it is: a bunch of cells conjoining another bunch of cells for a few brief moments, in the hopes of maybe (if I weren't gay, haha), creating just another ball of cells. Meh. When I'm into it, though, I'm very intensely into it; quieter than most, though (Mars square Pluto in Scorpio?).

I will say, as well, that I have been known to be...sexually precocious, however. Hah. Definitely the first of the guys that I knew to "develop", and I definitely started a bit earlier than most other guys I know, as well.

Also, I'm quite good about divorcing sex from intimacy. Not sure if that's a guy thing or a Mars in Aquarius thing. That said, though, I'm very "safe" about sex. I'm militant about taking precautions for my/his safety.

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posted May 21, 2013 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got Aquarius on the 8H cusp.
Uranus is conjunct Mars in my 5H in Sag. (5H cusp is Scorpio) and Mars is the ruler of my 9H Venus...

I do like to experiment with different aspects of sex, and I'm sure that some people would probably be put off by my sexual encounters. I hate even the idea of boring same ol' same ol' bedroom sex. I like spontaneous, take me right here on the kitchen counter, or behind the bar, or in the bush we just walked by sex If the only place a guy wants to do it is in bed, and the only way he wants to is "missionary" I'm DEFINITELY not the girl for him. I'd probably terrify a guy like that. Or get called "sick" or "depraved." I crave the "in the moment" feeling. And unless you're leading me to the bedroom blindfolded to reveal new *ahem* additions to our room (swings, hooks in the walls...that sort of thing ) I'd rather go out in the front yard for everyone to see. Lol..not an exhibitionist, exactly, I'd just rather not "do it" if I'm bored with how "it" is being done and that can usually be fixed with a simple scenery change.

My sex drive is at full speed, maximum over-drive on a regular basis. I'd ravish my fiance every time he walked through the door if he'd allow it. And I do mean every, single, time. "Oh you just got up? Yes, please" "Oh you just came in from being outside for 30 seconds, here, let me take those dirty clothes off you" I'm awful when it comes to self-control of that sort and if it weren't for him having some semblance of it, we'd never get anything accomplished with our clothes on lol

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posted May 21, 2013 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:

BTW I think the sign on the cusp is just a starting point, it has to be read together with where its ruler falls (Signwise and also conjunctions to other planets). Often it seems that the sign of the ruler comes out even more strongly than the sign on the cusp itself; however that is probably totally dependent on the individual chart.


Ceridwen, does this mean that because I have Leo on the cusp of the 5th house I should look to where my sun is (in Leo btw) and in the 4th house?
For the 8th I have sag on the cusp and jupiter is in the 12th (3 signs there - massive house), but jup is in gemini... So would that say a lot?
Or am I not getting this :-/
It's so difficult! -cries a little- (sorry dramatic leo showing there, lol)

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well, normal signs are cool signs, i tend to think of earth signs as uncool.

funny, well, my conjunction is also 4 degrees. and it's totes a conjunction, on the tighter side. well so what can be done about this? i know it for a fact that i can't settle for uninspiring ones, so well, whatever. i want poetry and i want beauty. if i can see it where it's absent, at least i see it. and if i can't be inspired by uninspiring ones then whatever, it's their fault, no getting laid with me no stuff going on. http://caitastro.blogspot.ru/2009/05/neptune-conjunct-descendant-now-you-ask.html - have you read this?

I just don't know. Be screwed by someone boring yet reliable and secure? Where's the 22nd floor window, I'm heading there this second. The 16th floor is fine too.


Thanks for the link! And yeah, I think I have read this before and it's so accurate! As for inspirational partners: for me lovers with very different backgrounds and approaches to life just spin me into inspiration & creativity (I can even get intrigued by someone watching TV all day (well kinda), because it's so different!). Then again love generally inspires me...

Anyway, I don't recommend the 'at no level matching' backgrounds... It's kind of a hard crash when you fall from that pink cloud and touch (smack down on) the ground, lol.
All very exciting of course. Not very well for inner balance & joy.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
The 8th house has something to do with sex, in how you relate to others in sexually intimate ways, how you share yourself. But the basic sexual profile is determined by the 5th house.


Phew. He's also got Scorpio on the cusp of the 5th.

That's more like it.

Even though I'm an Aquarius stellium myself, I don't like Aqua having anything to do with sex (my ex had Mars in Aquarius and it was just a huge turnoff to me). I like Aqua for sun and Mercury, but that's it. Mechanical, passionless sex? Group sex? No thanks!

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posted May 21, 2013 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Twirl:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ceridwen:
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BTW I think the sign on the cusp is just a starting point, it has to be read together with where its ruler falls (Signwise and also conjunctions to other planets). Often it seems that the sign of the ruler comes out even more strongly than the sign on the cusp itself; however that is probably totally dependent on the individual chart.


Ceridwen, does this mean that because I have Leo on the cusp of the 5th house I should look to where my sun is (in Leo btw) and in the 4th house?
For the 8th I have sag on the cusp and jupiter is in the 12th (3 signs there - massive house), but jup is in gemini... So would that say a lot?
Or am I not getting this :-/
It's so difficult! -cries a little- (sorry dramatic leo showing there, lol)

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Yes, exactly, in your case it probably doesn`t make that big of a difference since the ruler is also in Leo. Very warm, creative, protective, sensual, fiery in a stable way. And of course dramatic. lol


Also if something is conjunct the ruler it becomes merged with it. The other aspect might also colour it, but not in this strong sense of identification.

For me, Taurus on 5th house cusp, Venus in Capricorn. Very earthy there, and unlike Andstuff, I find Capricorns just delicious, especially if their Sun, Venus or Mars is in Capricorn. Yes, please, I want me some of that. lol

The element that is just doing nothing for me in a sexual context is Air, and ESPECIALLY not Gemini. *shudders*
Aqua is great and Libra as well for friendships, but attraction? Nada.
Though if something sets up my Aquarius-Moon, it changes things.

Leo isn`t for me at all in a sexual way.
However, Sagittarius BIG time, and Aries is moth to flame (esp. the first decade Aries, as this is square my Venus), and I am the one getting burned.

Anyway I disgress.
my 8th house cusp is in Cancer, with Moon in Aquarius.
Saturn is in 8th house. So another hint at my weakness for the SAturnian people. Of course not the boring ones, the others.
Actually MY Saturnians usually have a lot of Sag-influence or at least a little Aries.

The Quinkunx between ruler of 8th house Moon and Saturn IN 8th house, might not say so much as that suddenly my Moon gets all Saturnian, but rather depict the need to find a balance between my Aquarian need for detachment and independencement and the need for serious commitment as shown through Saturn.

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posted May 21, 2013 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by frankie2912:
Gemini rules my 8th house.

I do like dirty talking..a LOT. i don't know what else Gemini would say about sexuality.

Since Mercury rules Gemini..and I have Mercury in Sagittarius in the 2nd house..i guess that says something, too. I am adventurous in bed. I like role playing, dirty talk, multiple partners, doing it in weird places, being watched, etc..


I have venus in Gemini. Mercury is in Aries. 8th house ruled by Aquarius and 5th house in Scorpio. Definitely into dirty talk as well, even aggressive with the Aries, but intense, emotional pillow talk as well with the Scorpio. Aquarius in 8th can be into kinky/ unconventional stuff...multiple partners (same as Gemini) role-play, watching/ being watched. Never personally experienced that stuff but definitely LOVE the talking!!! I have moon in Gemini (12th) as well and Uranus (ruler of Aquarius) in the 5th! My sun is also conjunct Eros...I think that means I'm VERY sexual LOL!!!

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posted May 21, 2013 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
The 8th house has something to do with sex, in how you relate to others in sexually intimate ways, how you share yourself. But the basic sexual profile is determined by the 5th house.

It's all wrapped up in one steamy little nutshell for me seeing as how my 8H ruler is IN my 5H

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posted May 21, 2013 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LionFish:
I've got Aquarius on the 8H cusp.
Uranus is conjunct Mars in my 5H in Sag. (5H cusp is Scorpio) and Mars is the ruler of my 9H Venus...

I do like to experiment with different aspects of sex, and I'm sure that some people would probably be put off by my sexual encounters. I hate even the idea of boring same ol' same ol' bedroom sex. I like spontaneous, take me right here on the kitchen counter, or behind the bar, or in the bush we just walked by sex If the only place a guy wants to do it is in bed, and the only way he wants to is "missionary" I'm DEFINITELY not the girl for him. I'd probably terrify a guy like that. Or get called "sick" or "depraved." I crave the "in the moment" feeling. And unless you're leading me to the bedroom blindfolded to reveal new *ahem* additions to our room (swings, hooks in the walls...that sort of thing ) I'd rather go out in the front yard for everyone to see. Lol..not an exhibitionist, exactly, I'd just rather not "do it" if I'm bored with how "it" is being done and that can usually be fixed with a simple scenery change.

My sex drive is at full speed, maximum over-drive on a regular basis. I'd ravish my fiance every time he walked through the door if he'd allow it. And I do mean every, single, time. "Oh you just got up? Yes, please" "Oh you just came in from being outside for 30 seconds, here, let me take those dirty clothes off you" I'm awful when it comes to self-control of that sort and if it weren't for him having some semblance of it, we'd never get anything accomplished with our clothes on lol


Lionfish- I can ABSOLUTELY relate to all of that!! Same placements with uranus (5th) square mars in LEO and venus in Gemini sextile mars! Well put!

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posted May 21, 2013 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lionfish- I can ABSOLUTELY relate to all of that!! Same placements with uranus (5th) square mars in LEO and venus in Gemini sextile mars! Well put!

Thank you! I was just thinking the same about your post!

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I have venus in Gemini. Mercury is in Aries. 8th house ruled by Aquarius and 5th house in Scorpio. Definitely into dirty talk as well, even aggressive with the Aries, but intense, emotional pillow talk as well with the Scorpio. Aquarius in 8th can be into kinky/ unconventional stuff...multiple partners (same as Gemini) role-play, watching/ being watched. Never personally experienced that stuff but definitely LOVE the talking!!! I have moon in Gemini (12th) as well and Uranus (ruler of Aquarius) in the 5th! My sun is also conjunct Eros...I think that means I'm VERY sexual LOL!!!

Fascinating, the similarities in our placements!! I have no Venus/Mars contacts, but I don't think I really need an aspect between the two since Mars already rules my Venus...I'd be an unstoppable, lustful little

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posted May 21, 2013 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about someone who has Gemini on the cusp of their 8th with mercury in Capricorn? Venus in Pisces in the 5th sextile mars in Capricorn...any interpretations?

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:

I found this very comforting! Although I haven't been in a serious relationship yet, I'm also this way. Sagittarius covers part of my 7th house with Capricorn ruling the majority of my 8th and Mars in the 12th. I am starting to realize I may have issues and fears related to sex, for reasons unknown to me so far. As passionate and dramatic as I am I'm very uncomfortable with individual intimacy (emotional or physical) which I think is related to Capricorn ruling my 8th, and Saturn in my 7th with Venus in the 11th, then Uranus in my 7th. I know there's people with the same placements who've had relations, but my Venus is squared Saturn! I feel like it's the Universe conspiring against me so I didn't end up pregnant in high school or unprepared otherwise. Now I just feel like a social misfit because of it. :/

I think Saturn in relationship Houses does that... Don't worry though! We're not slaves to our charts. We define them, they don't define us. I think you just need to meet a person whom you trust and have some "Saturn glue" with. Then sparks will fly!

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posted May 21, 2013 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharpei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my friend has 8th in cap and she is the most ahem liberal girl i know

capricorn energy can manifest itself in many ways- for some it could mean limiting for others it could mean being respectful - capricorn is one of the two power signs of the zodiac along with scorpio.

i agree virgo is boring...

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Mine is ruled by uranus. Aquarius. *barf


Supposedly this means i am cold and detached and very independant. Not true at all.

Im the complete opposite!!!


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Cancer asc 1st
Taurus moon 11th
Taurus venus 11th
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Oh gawd wish I hadn't read this. My boyfriend has Aquarius on the cusp of the 8th.


Ew.


I think the whole chart has to be looked at. I have this same placement and i am nothing like that ewwww.


There is hope.

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Gemini sun 12th
Cancer asc 1st
Taurus moon 11th
Taurus venus 11th
Libra mars 3rd
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Aquarius on fifth is great for those fun, friendly outings, like to the movies or clubs. It's good for going out to dinners and all kinds of out of the ordinary events. My social life (dating) is as fun as I let it be with Aquarius on fifth. I get to be in charge of it.

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