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Jessica2407
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posted June 05, 2013 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@SSS

Yes I have my 5th & 10th,my 6th and 9th,my 1st and my 8th ruler in leo 7th house. My moon is in cancer 6th house. Cancer is my 7th house. She is the natural 4th house.You are right, my chart screams partnerships in capital letters lol.

I've been trying to figure out my NN in libra and SN in aries 4th house.

''With a Neptune square, you could find reasons that do not really exist, based on irrational fears, or misinformation. So don't let the squares keep you from expressing what is represented by the north node. ''

Thank you SO much for telling me that. You won't believe how conveniently appropriate that I should hear this at this junction of my life and because of certain events that are happening atm in my life. I have partially realized it myself, but like my father used to say : Chaque chose en son temps. It means :everything happens when it's supposed to happen.

Do you think NN in libra 10th house (emphasis on the 10th house,it being a public house) has some bearing with what am supposed to achieve in this life? That's the only part that confuses me a bit.

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posted June 05, 2013 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
YAAAAY another Pisces north node!!!!

Yup, in my 4th house
Trine my AC + Pluto/Sextile My Moon and inconjunct my mercury.

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posted June 05, 2013 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It suggests your partner will be active in your career somehow, or that you will want to show him off to others so people know you are with him? It's about being really visual and public, not always about career, entirely, though you could go into business together. Is how you and your partner perceived by others very important to you? I have the ruler of my ascendant in house ten and have been told I am way too concerned with how others perceive me and I shouldn't worry about it. Maybe this is a tenth house thing, too, as well as career? Tenth house is public in general. People say, "the only thing that matters is what you think of yourself" to me, they tell me not to worry about what others think. I am entirely too self conscious for my own good!

Psychologically, you will seek someone who will improve your status and you are proud to show to others as well as love. These things are intertwined and you won't be happy with just anyone.

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posted June 05, 2013 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@StarlightSmileSupreme: my NN is not Aries, so really I don't know

I just want to be left alone. SN values make me happy enough, I am lacking NOTHING. It's just that I abhor this "learn the lesson the hard way" song and dance, what if something horrible happens to me?


If I remember correctly andstuff, you also have a 7th house saturn ya? venus in capricorn?

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posted June 05, 2013 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
^^ ah okay.

I believe in this concept to be honest with you.

How can destiny take away something you aren't meant to have? or may be that you are meant to have only for a short period of time? or that you are meant to have AT some specific time of your life.


I don't know. Life is not a classroom, life is there to enjoy it. If it takes your treasures and gives you rubbish, surely there's no reason to be grateful ? Can you think of a thing you were meant to have at a specific point in your life that proved to be unnecessary in retrospect once it was taken away?

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posted June 05, 2013 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Aw cool I have a Scorpio NN, Taurus SN! Except mine are in H3 and H9 respectively. Any ways, it is comfortable staying with your SN...very comfortable...why leave??

The answer I've found, any ways, is you will grow and develop more as a person the more you face things that challenge your SN and therefore facilitate growth towards you NN! I'm a selfish, indulgent person, and it's easy for me to relax and let others prattle on around me, sitting on my mound of possessions and people...but that's not growth. For me to grow, I have to learn to share, to give away loyalty and to stand by said loyalty, and to compromise.

I'm not sure how a Taurus NN/Scorpio SN would work though...hm...


Nice I have NN Scorpio in the 6th and SN Taurus in 12th. Want to swop lifestyles andstuff?
@somethingexcellent: I don't recognise my Taurus in earthy possessions, but perhaps in strong value systems (my inner morals,lol) Perhaps cause it is in the 12th?

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posted June 05, 2013 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
If I remember correctly andstuff, you also have a 7th house saturn ya? venus in capricorn?


No that rubbish is not mine, must be someone else's

Saturn in the 6th, Neptune in the7th Venus in aqua conj mars in Pisces

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posted June 05, 2013 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
It suggests your partner will be active in your career somehow, or that you will want to show him off to others so people know you are with him? It's about being really visual and public, not always about career, entirely, though you could go into business together. Is how you and your partner perceived by others very important to you? I have the ruler of my ascendant in house ten and have been told I am way too concerned with how others perceive me and I shouldn't worry about it. Maybe this is a tenth house thing, too, as well as career? Tenth house is public in general. People say, "the only thing that matters is what you think of yourself" to me, they tell me not to worry about what others think. I am entirely too self conscious for my own good!

Psychologically, you will seek someone who will improve your status and you are proud to show to others as well as love. These things are intertwined and you won't be happy with just anyone.


Gosh you are so right about the last part lol

But I don't really care about my partner and I are perceived by the public. I just want to have someone FOR ME. LOL. The public part will be like a bonus I guess lol hehe..

The person who is in my life has NN in libra too, the 6th house, SN in aries the 12th house. He has a stellium in the part which is empty in my chart.

Am going to re-think about what you said. It's always so mentally gratifying to talk to you SSS. Thank you!

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posted June 05, 2013 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by andstuff:
No that rubbish is not mine, must be someone else's

Saturn in the 6th, Neptune in the7th Venus in aqua conj mars in Pisces


lol girl

I have saturn in the 7th lol

Neptune in the 7th? How do you experience a 7th house?

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posted June 05, 2013 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by andstuff:
I don't know. Life is not a classroom, life is there to enjoy it. If it takes your treasures and gives you rubbish, surely there's no reason to be grateful ? Can you think of a thing you were meant to have at a specific point in your life that proved to be unnecessary in retrospect once it was taken away?

Yep. Things were taken away, certain events received interference beyond my control and I was so mad at the universe for letting it happen to me and bla bla. But now I see why everything happened as it happened.

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posted June 05, 2013 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Gosh you are so right about the last part lol

But I don't really care about my partner and I are perceived by the public. I just want to have someone FOR ME. LOL. The public part will be like a bonus I guess lol hehe..

The person who is in my life has NN in libra too, the 6th house, SN in aries the 12th house. He has a stellium in the part which is empty in my chart.

Am going to re-think about what you said. It's always so mentally gratifying to talk to you SSS. Thank you!



You're welcome, Jess, anytime. Your chart suggests to me, on some level, you do care about how people perceive you and your partner, it's part of overall happiness in your relationship because you feel eat ease when you go out with him. People see you and he as a great couple who really like to be together, he is so good for her and vice versa...are you sure you do not long to hear these things?

You insist on mutual attraction between each other, that's important too and could be the most important of all. Some people are more socially minded, so they not only look for mutual attraction, but are also sensitive to their reputations/what others think about their relationship. If the attraction is there, they are in love, it still problematic that others don't approve for whatever reason. That's a very Libra thing. Libra tends to be sensitive about stuff like this, sometimes Capricorn as well. This is partly what motivates Libras to dress so well. They want others to think a certain way when they lay eyes on the person with Libra planets/Libra dominant charts, and usually they crave good thoughts like, wow that person is so hot, whoever finally gets with them will be so lucky. It's the secret cravings of all Libras, lol, to be thought of as attractive and worthy of being someone's husband or wife while Capricorn is more concerned with the actual status their spouse has and how it reflects on them, like, if they are high up in the ranks of some company, or own a successful business, are upper management wherever it is they work. Capricorns can respond well to this (although not saying it is important to all of them.) It seems like they have a natural respect for authority and it is in every Capricorn.

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posted June 05, 2013 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ You know what SSS, have read your post like 5 times already. I have never actually thought about it but you are right! Status is indeed very important to me. I have worked my beautiful butt off to get where I am today,I would like no strike that I want someone worthy of me.Someone am going to be proud to be with,someone who commands respect...and you are also right about the first part,it's important to me how we look as a couple,like how united we are,how solid we are as a couple..wow..just realized all this..lol...

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posted June 05, 2013 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can see this thread turned into a general discussion about NNs so I'll let myself throw in a question. If my NN and sun are in the same sign, does that mean I partly fulfill my destiny by simply being myself and not letting others change me?

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posted June 05, 2013 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I believe so. I have the opposite problem

North node is in the sign opposite the sun in the house the sun sign naturally rules so the sign with the south node is in the house the north node's sign traditionally rules which just means I can never go wrong being either Virgo/Pisces I get to be both!!! So I am doubly lucky!

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posted June 05, 2013 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Holy crap! This must be a little confusing. On the other hand, it should make you kind of flexible and it can be useful...I think. I have a Virgo ASC so I feel your pain


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posted June 05, 2013 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With all of this Pisces-Virgo stuff, in theory, you should be well-suited for a job in health.

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posted June 05, 2013 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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With all of this Pisces-Virgo stuff, in theory, you should be well-suited for a job in health.


Only if it's counseling or energy healing because what's even funnier and more ironic is blood and fluids in general make me queasy I have a general aversion to all of that stuff, lol. There's no way I could work with them. If someone vomited in front of me I would join them. I am not good with sick people.

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posted June 05, 2013 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm so cappy: If my NN and sun are in the same sign, does that mean I partly fulfill my destiny by simply being myself and not letting others change me?

My NN is conjunct my Sun under two degrees. !!!!

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posted June 05, 2013 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops. I'm glad I'm not that sensitive. I can even watch surgery videos. Counseling -sounds good, energy healing too but in this case one needs to be gifted. Do you know yet what kind of job would satisfy you most? Maybe you do and I am unnecessarily bothering my grey cells

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posted June 05, 2013 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My NN is conjunct my Sun under two degrees. !!!!

Congratulations, you are officially allowed to be yourself

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posted June 05, 2013 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oops. I'm glad I'm not that sensitive. I can even watch surgery videos. Counseling -sounds good, energy healing too but in this case one needs to be gifted. Do you know yet what kind of job would satisfy you most? Maybe you do and I am unnecessarily bothering my grey cells


I do know I could never ever ever do surgery. When I think about that, I just feel horrified tbh but I marvel at surgeons and what they can accomplish. I wish I were as steady and calm. They have so much confidence in what they do. My dream job is royalty or copyright owner. I like the idea of owning patents or receiving capital gains. Basically I want to make money off my property or money without actually doing much, lol.

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posted June 05, 2013 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You lazy bum Royalty owner? No idea what that means. Besides, how could you get someone's copyrights? I don't know anything about it.

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posted June 05, 2013 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You lazy bum Royalty owner? No idea what that means. Besides, how could you get someone's copyrights? I don't know anything about it.



People with money just buy them up and they earn even more, haha. It sounds perfect for me!


What I would buy are a lot of mineral rights.

Besides, I have never been that great at tasks and organization. Just so-so. I am the perfect candidate for owning rights!

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posted June 05, 2013 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hm I've got moon conj NN - is this a problem or a this beneficial?

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posted June 05, 2013 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Hey SSS,

Would love to hear what you think about NN in libra 10th house, SN in aries 4th house. NN sq mercury,venus and saturn, sextile mars.


Hey there, hope you don't mind if I jump in the conversation. Jess and I have commented we have similar natal placements LOL. I have NN Libra in the 4th and SN Aries in the 10th. My gemini moon in the 12th trines my NN but my jupiter and Cancer ASC squares my NN. I've been struggling with an interpretation as well...especially since my NN is in cancer's natural house but it squares my cancer ASC...I don't get it..

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