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Freesia
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posted July 07, 2013 05:41 PM
  
What do you feel for a person if your Venus/Pluto midpoint touches persons Moon or Sun?IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted July 07, 2013 08:07 PM
I haven't noticed it to be a significant point in my chart personally, but I'm pretty sure some people can feel it.Obsessive love?
Infatuation. That kind of thing. IP: Logged |
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posted July 07, 2013 08:50 PM
I'm thinking it would manifest more as a "Fatal Attraction" thing (at the absolute extreme end).I've never had anyone trigger my Venus Pluto midpoint though, so I can't say firsthand what it feels like. Sun-Moon midpoint though, is a different story, and that's pretty intense - the problem is, that most of my planetary midpoints fall in that exact same area, along with my vertex so that might account for why having the Sun-Moon midpoint triggered has a crazy effect on me. IP: Logged |
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posted July 07, 2013 11:53 PM
Orb needs to be tight though, not more then 1°30-2°00. And it is those under one degree that really leave an impression. IP: Logged |
Freesia
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posted July 08, 2013 02:55 PM
Ok. I'm really interested in this topic. I have to say I have my Venus/Pluto midpoint exactly conjunct by my own Sun so if someone touches it, I think I would identify with this person - but I don't have met anyone who was born same day as me.
What does it tell about me?  I know I'm passionate about everything I'm really into. I go deep in things I care.Another issue is synastry. My Moon & Saturn conjunction is conjuncting a friends V/P midpoint (orb 1 dg). I'm wondering what does it feel like from his point of view?
So probably obsessive, I might agree. But in a good way or desparate way?
Any other thoughts or experiences? IP: Logged |
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posted July 08, 2013 03:03 PM
A Cancer Sun/Cap Moon person I recently met has his Moon conjunct my Venus/Pluto midpoint by 7 1/2 minutes.Oi vey, I can not get him outta my head. I'm not sure that it's because of this or because of our rather heavily interconnected synastry, but it's definitely one more thing to add to the reasons why he's dancing through my brain lol IP: Logged |
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posted July 08, 2013 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by Freesia:
Ok. I'm really interested in this topic. I have to say I have my Venus/Pluto midpoint exactly conjunct by my own Sun so if someone touches it, I think I would identify with this person - but I don't have met anyone who was born same day as me.
What does it tell about me? I know I'm passionate about everything I'm really into. I go deep in things I care.Another issue is synastry. My Moon & Saturn conjunction is conjuncting a friends V/P midpoint (orb 1 dg). I'm wondering what does it feel like from his point of view?
So probably obsessive, I might agree. But in a good way or desparate way?
Any other thoughts or experiences?
ooo you have a moon saturn conjunction... so does my Cancer/Cap friend... His moon/saturn sits on my V/P.. So if your friend is responding to you the same way I am to mine, he can't get you outta his head. I even started a thread asking why I couldn't stop thinking about my Cancer. It's rather obnoxious at times, to have somebody CONSTANTLY on your mind.. constantly. Even when I'm involved with another task/conversation completely removed from him, the thought of him is still there.. IP: Logged |
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posted July 08, 2013 03:30 PM
I find midpoints VERY telling. Sun=Venus/Pluto natally, especially if it is conjunct or opposite, is probaby strongly intense and passionate and digging deep. Pretty much a natal Venu/Pluto-aspect in the core of your personality. Interestingly I just read on a blog yesterday, that Alexander Skarsgard (he plays a vampire), natally has Mars= Venus/Pluto (Venus on the antiscion of Pluto, too), Venus=Sun/Pluto= Moon/Pluto. He doesn`t have any strong Pluto aspects otherwise (it sextiles Neptune and Saturn, and thus is on the Saturn/Neptune-mp); yet these Pluto-midpoints describe this role he is playing pretty well (and actually some other roles).
In my own chart my tightest midpoint picture is Moon=Mercury/Pluto = Sun/PLuto, and while Ihave a pretty easygoing Mercury (in Sag, conjunct Sun) otherwise, I absolutely identify with this, this tendency to get quite obsessive when there is something I want to investigate, study or analyze.
It might not be obvious on a more superficial level, but if you scratch at the surface, my midpoints are getting pretty obvious.
I once had a huge crush on a guy, unrequited of course. His Moon was opposite my Venus/Pluto-mp and his Mars squared my Venus/Mars-mp. I was SO obsessed!
(of course the fact that his pluto was squaring my Mars, ASC and NN and trined my Venus, with my Pluto opposing his Mercury, might have played a role as well  ).
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Freesia
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posted July 08, 2013 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by LionFish:
A Cancer Sun/Cap Moon person I recently met has his Moon conjunct my Venus/Pluto midpoint by 7 1/2 minutes.Oi vey, I can [b]not get him outta my head. [/B]
I went to read your post, you know it's funny because person I was mentioning has a Cancer Sun/Cap Moon aswell lol
Tell me more about your friend, maybe I can learn something new about this type of Cancers. Cap Moon is something new to me, I'm still learning how to handle it.
We have our Moons in trine aswell as you guys. And this is what I like a lot.
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Freesia
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posted July 08, 2013 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I find midpoints VERY telling. Sun=Venus/Pluto natally, especially if it is conjunct or opposite, is probaby strongly intense and passionate and digging deep. Pretty much a natal Venu/Pluto-aspect in the core of your personality.
Yes. I think one of the meaning of Sun=V/P in Natal is that person must evaluate him/herself through Love. And another aspect is that I'm ready to do huge things in the name of love. If I truly love someone and if he is worth it. I'm ready to transform myself or surroundings because of love. This has such a big importance for me. IP: Logged |
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posted July 08, 2013 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
In my own chart my tightest midpoint picture is Moon=Mercury/Pluto = Sun/PLuto, and while Ihave a pretty easygoing Mercury (in Sag, conjunct Sun) otherwise, I absolutely identify with this, this tendency to get quite obsessive when there is something I want to investigate, study or analyze.
It might not be obvious on a more superficial level, but if you scratch at the surface, my midpoints are getting pretty obvious.
I think you must be a talented in higher studies and researches (Sag Merc with such Plutonic energies), are you? IP: Logged |
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posted July 08, 2013 05:09 PM
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Yes. I think one of the meaning of Sun=V/P in Natal is that person must evaluate him/herself through Love. And another aspect is that I'm ready to do huge things in the name of love. If I truly love someone and if he is worth it. I'm ready to transform myself or surroundings because of love. This has such a big importance for me.
Do you feel that occasionally you go through really cathartic experiences (emotionally, or in relation to love and selfworth), that leave you transformed in the aftermath (no matter how painful in the given moment)? It is how I am experiencing my Venus-Pluto-square at least. But maybe that is just me, I just thought it makes sense iwht the death and rebirth idea of Pluto. IP: Logged |
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posted July 08, 2013 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by Freesia:
I think you must be a talented in higher studies and researches (Sag Merc with such Plutonic energies), are you?
Not sure if I am talented. But it one of my most favourite pasttimes, yes.
I am sure my attempts of researching something are splattered all over LL through the last years, though I could have stayed with each of it longer I guess. But that is where Sag Merc comes into play. I always need input. IP: Logged |
LionFish
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posted July 08, 2013 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by Freesia:
I went to read your post, you know it's funny because person I was mentioning has a Cancer Sun/Cap Moon aswell lol
Tell me more about your friend, maybe I can learn something new about this type of Cancers. Cap Moon is something new to me, I'm still learning how to handle it.
We have our Moons in trine aswell as you guys. And this is what I like a lot.
He moved away from a huge family bubble (parents, brother, cousins, aunts, uncles all living in the same town/area) when he was 19 to live with his sister while he went to school in the city we currently live in. He's very family oriented.
He's definitely a relationship type of person vs random sexual encounters or friends with benefits types of situations.
He's successful in his line of work and takes pride in everything he accomplishes.
He's not exactly "open" about himself, meaning that he doesn't just readily volunteer information, but neither does he shy from questions. If you want to get to know him you have to try.
According to a mutual friend who's seen him in relationships he's sweet and nurturing toward the person he's enamored of.. Wanting to take care of them however he can anywhere from making them meals to fixing their car lol.. He's an absolutely wonderful person as far as I can tell..
I may update as I get to know him better
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posted July 09, 2013 06:41 AM
Just thought I`d throw that out here."Planets activating the Venus/Pluto midpoint Principle: One person having power over the other in a love relationship. Power struggles in love relationships. To feel love with extreme intensity. To experience a compelling attraction. Decisions that are difficult to make. Irresistible temptations. Process: To give in so totally to the power of love that it transforms one’s consciousness and further one’s evolution. To delve deeply into one’s attractions so that one may experience their pure essence and by doing so come into a profound self-understanding. Sun: Whatever one holds to be important in life one loves with a deep passion. One may derive much vitality from intensely loving. One may be profoundly in love with one’s own goals. Moon: To be strongly impressionable to intense beauty. The emotional need for intense relationships, connections, and romances. To fall easily under the sway of the charms and allurements of another person. Mercury: To communicate with a compelling seductiveness. A mind which inevitably falls madly in love with certain subjects. Mars: Intense love expressed with great passion. To feel an overwhelming urge to act. One is impelled to take initiative based on an intense love. Jupiter: To be excessive in the expression of an intense attraction. One who reaches out to others in an intensely loving way. A willingness to allow love to raise one into a higher consciousness. Saturn: A fear of intense passion. A tendency to shy away from anything or anyone one feels extremely attracted to. Hard lessons learned through power struggles in love relationships. Chiron: Your vibration helps others to attune to the tremendous power of love, and to let go of their fear of it. You help them to recognize what it is that they most deeply want and are attracted to. Uranus: A desire to be free of extreme attractions, and a tendency to sometimes delve into them, and at other times isolate oneself from them. Others may be extremely attracted to one’s uniqueness. Freedom through allowing love to evolve into a higher plane. Neptune: Imaginings and fantasies of intense love. Intense sharings with other people can drain one’s energy. The ability to psychically perceive the intense attractions that other people feel. A selfless giving in to being overpowered by a lover, which may ultimately be destructive. Node: In this life one is learning how to transmute obsessive attractions into the higher reality of divine and unconditional love. Ascendant: To be a person who crave love, or who crave a lover with whom one can have power struggles. One emanates a compelling attractiveness. Midheaven: One’s highest attainment in this life has to do with transmuting the lesser manifestations of love into higher ones. One may be intensely loved by the public or by people at large. Career decisions that are difficult to make."
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posted July 09, 2013 06:47 AM
I shamelessly link to some threads I had on midpoints here, maybe something interesting will be in there for you. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/204020.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/204037.html
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posted July 09, 2013 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Do you feel that occasionally you go through really cathartic experiences (emotionally, or in relation to love and selfworth), that leave you transformed in the aftermath (no matter how painful in the given moment)?
Definately. It was more felt during schoolage. IP: Logged |
Freesia
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posted July 10, 2013 07:04 PM
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Just thought I`d throw that out here."Planets activating the Venus/Pluto midpoint Principle: One person having power over the other in a love relationship. Power struggles in love relationships. To feel love with extreme intensity. To experience a compelling attraction.
Do you think that person which has power over the other would be planet person or Venus/Pluto person?
And "to feel love with extreme intensity" I suppose this feeling comes from V/P person? IP: Logged |
Freesia
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posted July 12, 2013 04:48 PM
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Ceridwen
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posted July 12, 2013 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by Freesia:
Do you think that person which has power over the other would be planet person or Venus/Pluto person?
And "to feel love with extreme intensity" I suppose this feeling comes from V/P person?
not sure about the power-scenario, but usually it is the midpoint person who feels the midpoint in their chart. So if someone triggers your venus/Pluto mp you would feel like having a Venus-Pluto-conjunction in relation to this person, just that it is only you who experiences it like that. IP: Logged |
Freesia
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posted July 12, 2013 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by LionFish:
He's an absolutely wonderful person as far as I can tell..
I may update as I get to know him better
As you describe him he must be wonderful!
Is he the one who is chasing you? Or do you do texts and calls as a first one?
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posted June 05, 2014 09:38 PM
I my Boyfriend very much.
His Sun/Moon midpoint is 13'59 Taurus.. EXACTLY as my Moon. 
His Vènus/Pluto is square my Pluto, and my Vènus/Pluto square his Mars. Good enough?A man whom is deeply obsessed with me has his Vènus/Pluto midpoint square my Sun.
I must see his Nessus/Sun, Nessus/Mars or Nessus/Vènus midpoints. IP: Logged |
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posted June 09, 2014 06:48 AM
Considering my Venus is 11 Scorpio and Pluto is 13 Scorpio. The Midpoint is 12 Scorpio, which basically means anything that hits that, hits all of that. And my Eros is a few more degrees away from that.
It's a very narrow window for aspects to hit.If you had say Pluto in Capricorn and Venus in Pisces, you could make aspects to those and the mid point with different planets etc. So one might aspect Pluto, a different one might aspect venus, and a 3rd may aspect the mid point. Whereas in my case, it either hits them all, or it hits nothing. ------------------
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posted June 09, 2014 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Just thought I`d throw that out here."Planets activating the Venus/Pluto midpoint Principle: One person having power over the other in a love relationship. Power struggles in love relationships. To feel love with extreme intensity. To experience a compelling attraction. Decisions that are difficult to make. Irresistible temptations. Process: To give in so totally to the power of love that it transforms one’s consciousness and further one’s evolution. To delve deeply into one’s attractions so that one may experience their pure essence and by doing so come into a profound self-understanding. Sun: Whatever one holds to be important in life one loves with a deep passion. One may derive much vitality from intensely loving. One may be profoundly in love with one’s own goals. Moon: To be strongly impressionable to intense beauty. The emotional need for intense relationships, connections, and romances. To fall easily under the sway of the charms and allurements of another person. Mercury: To communicate with a compelling seductiveness. A mind which inevitably falls madly in love with certain subjects. Mars: Intense love expressed with great passion. To feel an overwhelming urge to act. One is impelled to take initiative based on an intense love. Jupiter: To be excessive in the expression of an intense attraction. One who reaches out to others in an intensely loving way. A willingness to allow love to raise one into a higher consciousness. Saturn: A fear of intense passion. A tendency to shy away from anything or anyone one feels extremely attracted to. Hard lessons learned through power struggles in love relationships. Chiron: Your vibration helps others to attune to the tremendous power of love, and to let go of their fear of it. You help them to recognize what it is that they most deeply want and are attracted to. Uranus: A desire to be free of extreme attractions, and a tendency to sometimes delve into them, and at other times isolate oneself from them. Others may be extremely attracted to one’s uniqueness. Freedom through allowing love to evolve into a higher plane. Neptune: Imaginings and fantasies of intense love. Intense sharings with other people can drain one’s energy. The ability to psychically perceive the intense attractions that other people feel. A selfless giving in to being overpowered by a lover, which may ultimately be destructive. Node: In this life one is learning how to transmute obsessive attractions into the higher reality of divine and unconditional love. Ascendant: To be a person who crave love, or who crave a lover with whom one can have power struggles. One emanates a compelling attractiveness. Midheaven: One’s highest attainment in this life has to do with transmuting the lesser manifestations of love into higher ones. One may be intensely loved by the public or by people at large. Career decisions that are difficult to make."
http://johnsandbach.com/?page_id=7243
This is also fantastically useful at least for me. Thank you Ceridwen. ------------------
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posted January 25, 2020 12:38 PM
Want to learn more. Where are you guys?Prrsonal observation: most of the pluto midpoint is conj my own asc.
Would it mean I am like obsessed with myself ? 😂 IP: Logged |
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