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Topic: Venus conjunct asc & Venus conjunct dsc
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aquaguy91
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posted August 01, 2013 08:37 PM
  
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
My point is, planets on the ascendant indicate a degree of self absorption that nobody likes to admit to.
Not sure where you get that idea. The ascendant and 1st house indicate how others perceive you and your physical appearance. Since I have venus conjunct the ascendant people perceive me as being nice,friendly,and diplomatic.This has been confirmed by others many times. My friends get me to call places they are interested in working for because they say i'm good at talking to people. I have successfully helped friends get jobs on more than one occasion.I have also been told I give the impression that i'm someone who can be trusted. Physically, I have the venusian dimples when I actually smile. IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted August 01, 2013 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I know the difference lol.
If you said
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same concept anyways
you have to wonder if you do know. lol
Diluted energy and polluted energy are not the same. quote:
A planet on an angle especially the asc makes it a point of focus, so these natives breathe venus.
This means however venus is aspected should effect the native 2x's more.
You know how you see people who are extremely thirsty for a boyfriend or a girlfriend?
He may project that vibe.Venus is more noticeable on the asc and mc over the ic & dsc. However Venus does well in the 10th house/Mc because all planets, even night planets like moon in venus does well there. The sun and mars does well on the asc/first house, and those planets can be difficult on the dsc.
It seems to me that signs come first, then house placement, even on angles. That's why you hear of "accidental dignities" and "accidental debilities" with house placements. Signs head straight for "in dignity" or "in debility." Planets will be noticeable on angles, but if it's in a sign of detriment or fall, or in hard aspect to a planet that may not reap the benefits for the angled planet, some may mistaken that for a planet's debilitated house placement. "Moon in Venus"? what's that? lol
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12thhouser
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posted August 01, 2013 08:41 PM
I've had lots of conversations with aquaguy, and he's rarely struck me as self-absorbed. I can't say the same for others whose posts I've read, regardless of their Venus placement, sign or house. lolIP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted August 01, 2013 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Omg it's funny watching 12thhouser and aquaguy together. They're like the same person... 
I'm sure it seems that way to the untrained eye. lol (and I don't mean any offense with that, aquaguy, but I'm sure you already knew that lol) IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 01, 2013 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Not sure where you get that idea. The ascendant and 1st house indicate how others perceive you and your physical appearance. Since I have venus conjunct the ascendant people perceive me as being nice,friendly,and diplomatic.This has been confirmed by others many times. My friends get me to call places they are interested in working for because they say i'm good at talking to people. I have been successful in doing this on more than one occasion.
The ascendant is the degree of beginning of life, where you become "yourself" so-to-speak. Before then, you were in the womb. It correlates to your own being as opposed to the seventh house which has to do with other people and how you focus on them. Think of it this way - the planet on the ascendant is the one sitting in the restaurant while wait staff wait on it hand and foot, making sure he's a satisfied customer, attending to his every need. When that same planet is in house seven, he becomes the wait staff, waiting on someone else hand and foot, attending to their every need, making sure they are satisfied. You can see the difference. Most people seeking relationships want the other person to be like the planet in house seven, not in house one. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted August 01, 2013 08:47 PM
You're not being cute, don't even try and go there with me  I'm not going to argue with you over what i meant and didn't mean. lol. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted August 01, 2013 08:48 PM
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Kerosene
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posted August 01, 2013 08:49 PM
You're not being cute, so don't even try and go there with me .I'm not going to argue with you over what i meant. Correcting my typo is hardly impressive. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 01, 2013 08:52 PM
You can see the difference just on LL by watching how we interact. I can always spot the ones with Venus in house 7.IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted August 01, 2013 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Think of it this way - the planet on the ascendant is the one sitting in the restaurant while wait staff wait on it hand and foot, making sure he's a satisfied customer, attending to his every need.
lol Doesn't describe me at all. Jupiter conjunct Venus on the ascendant, and I never expect to be waited on hand and foot. I enjoy helping others. lol These analogies could use some work. IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted August 01, 2013 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
You're not being cute, so don't even try and go there with me .I'm not going to argue with you over what i meant. Correcting my typo is hardly impressive.
Who are you talking to? lol IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted August 01, 2013 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
You're not being cute, so don't even try and go there with me .I'm not going to argue with you over what i meant. Correcting my typo is hardly impressive.
Who are you talking to? lol IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted August 01, 2013 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
You're not being cute, so don't even try and go there with me .I'm not going to argue with you over what i meant. Correcting my typo is hardly impressive.
Who are you talking to? lol IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted August 01, 2013 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[b] Not sure where you get that idea. The ascendant and 1st house indicate how others perceive you and your physical appearance. Since I have venus conjunct the ascendant people perceive me as being nice,friendly,and diplomatic.This has been confirmed by others many times. My friends get me to call places they are interested in working for because they say i'm good at talking to people. I have been successful in doing this on more than one occasion.
The ascendant is the degree of beginning of life, where you become "yourself" so-to-speak. Before then, you were in the womb. It correlates to your own being as opposed to the seventh house which has to do with other people and how you focus on them. Think of it this way - the planet on the ascendant is the one sitting in the restaurant while wait staff wait on it hand and foot, making sure he's a satisfied customer, attending to his every need. When that same planet is in house seven, he becomes the wait staff, waiting on someone else hand and foot, attending to their every need, making sure they are satisfied. You can see the difference. Most people seeking relationships want the other person to be like the planet in house seven, not in house one.[/B][/QUOTE]
People with venus in the 7th want a venusian partner while people with venus in the first are venusian.
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aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted August 01, 2013 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[b] Not sure where you get that idea. The ascendant and 1st house indicate how others perceive you and your physical appearance. Since I have venus conjunct the ascendant people perceive me as being nice,friendly,and diplomatic.This has been confirmed by others many times. My friends get me to call places they are interested in working for because they say i'm good at talking to people. I have been successful in doing this on more than one occasion.
The ascendant is the degree of beginning of life, where you become "yourself" so-to-speak. Before then, you were in the womb. It correlates to your own being as opposed to the seventh house which has to do with other people and how you focus on them. Think of it this way - the planet on the ascendant is the one sitting in the restaurant while wait staff wait on it hand and foot, making sure he's a satisfied customer, attending to his every need. When that same planet is in hseven, he becomes the wait staff, waiting on someone else hand and foot, attending to their every need, making sure they are satisfied. You can see the difference. Most people seeking relationships want the other person to be like the planet in house seven, not in house one.[/B][/QUOTE]
People with venus in the 7th want a venusian partner while people with venus in the first are venusian.
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aquaguy91
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posted August 01, 2013 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
I've had lots of conversations with aquaguy, and he's rarely struck me as self-absorbed. I can't say the same for others whose posts I've read, regardless of their Venus placement, sign or house. lol
Yes. The problem with most people on the internet is they think they have your personality figured out to T when you cant do that. You cannot get a good feel for a person's personality by reading things they have typed from a keyboard.I have talked to several people from here off the forum and none of them were anything like they seem when you interact with them here. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted August 01, 2013 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
I've had lots of conversations with aquaguy, and he's rarely struck me as self-absorbed. I can't say the same for others whose posts I've read, regardless of their Venus placement, sign or house. lol
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 01, 2013 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
People with venus in the 7th want a venusian partner while people with venus in the first are venusian.
Did I ever say someone with Venus on the ascendant isn't Venusian? Did I say someone with Venus in seven doesn't want a Venusian partner? Take a look at the meaning of ascendant/descendant. The ascendant is the self, the descendant is the partner. It's just astro-logic. On which part will a planet be directed toward the partner? The descendant, because it symbolizes the partner. Planets on the ascendant oppose the descendant. See why the opposition exists? So, your ascendant Venus is opposite your descendant. This is where the friction enters. It's plain as day. So obvious! The ascendant will focus on the self.
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aquaguy91
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posted August 01, 2013 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Did I ever say someone with Venus on the ascendant isn't Venusian? Did I say someone with Venus in seven doesn't want a Venusian partner? Take a look at the meaning of ascendant/descendant. The ascendant is the self, the descendant is the partner. It's just astro-logic. On which part will a planet be directed toward the partner? The descendant, because it symbolizes the partner. Planets on the ascendant oppose the descendant. See why the opposition exists? So, your ascendant Venus is opposite your descendant. This is where the friction enters. It's plain as day. So obvious! The ascendant will focus on the self.
I'm sorry but you are a little mixed up here. As a venus rising native people see me and look to me as someone to play a venusian role. People come to me for advice, ask me for favors,see me as a nice guy who can help them, and ask me to help settle disputes. Whereas my experience with people with planets in the 7th expect others to play out the role of that planet. Example: I notice that people with with pluto in the 7th tend to have very intense and possessive partners while they themselves may not seem plutonian at all. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 01, 2013 09:55 PM
Aquaguy,
YES and that partnership will take a lot of their time and energy because Pluto is in house seven, opposite house one, more specifically, on the descendant opposite the ascendant.
What would it be like if Pluto were conjunct the ascendant instead? The person would be Plutonian, and most likely, self promotion and interest would be obvious. Others would see, he has a stake in things. It's just a difference in how the planet's expressed. People respond in a way that involves partnership when the planet is in house seven. It's the way the dynamic works. The person with the planet in house seven, or conjunct the descendant, is more focused on others, so much so, partnership becomes a natural extension of their lives. It just happens. That's how astrology works. Except for Saturn. IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted August 01, 2013 10:25 PM
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Kerosene: You're not being cute, don't even try and go there with me
Lol! You have two bad eggs in ur thread Kerosene! How will u survive!! Any who, 12thhouser is very pedantic and mundane, so yah, argue with him at your own discretion lmfao! He'll always find something to pick at before moving onto the actual topic. IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted August 01, 2013 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Lol! You have two bad eggs in ur thread Kerosene! How will u survive!! Any who, 12thhouser is very pedantic and mundane, so yah, argue with him at your own discretion lmfao! He'll always find something to pick at before moving onto the actual topic.
You're confusing pedantic with accurate.
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somethingexcellent
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posted August 01, 2013 11:23 PM
^You're confusing being useful with being annoying.  IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 02, 2013 12:16 AM
This ended on a happy note IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted August 02, 2013 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Aquaguy,
[b]YES and that partnership will take a lot of their time and energy because Pluto is in house seven, opposite house one, more specifically, on the descendant opposite the ascendant.
What would it be like if Pluto were conjunct the ascendant instead? The person would be Plutonian, and most likely, self promotion and interest would be obvious. Others would see, he has a stake in things. It's just a difference in how the planet's expressed. People respond in a way that involves partnership when the planet is in house seven. It's the way the dynamic works. The person with the planet in house seven, or conjunct the descendant, is more focused on others, so much so, partnership becomes a natural extension of their lives. It just happens. That's how astrology works. Except for Saturn.[/B]
What you are saying doesnt make any sense. You are saying that venus in the first is self absorbed while you agree with me that venus in the 1st are the ones actively projecting venusian energy out into the world and are expected to play that role by others. IDK how that equates to being self absorbed. If anything the venus in 1st is the one giving more.
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