posted August 05, 2013 08:44 AM            

Neptune: Is it possible for a person to have an encapsulating sexual experience with another?

Sun: Having the “other” is not as important as accessing the feelings of that experience for yourself.

Neptune: Yes, I get that. But what use is there in accessing that experience for yourself if you can’t share it?

Sun: On the contrary, it could be the most loving act you give to yourself. Realizing those feelings for yourself makes it easier to give them to another (should you choose to).

Neptune: But what I mean is being able to reach that “high” with another whilst the other is also there: reaching the same high.

Sun: Have you ever tried taking directions from someone who doesn’t know how to get to where you want to go? And has never been there?

Neptune: You mean I have to lead the way to my own sexual ecstasy?

Sun: People don’t have fun by accident. Accidents are not conscious. You want to intend the experience into being and not make it a “probability” of it happening.

Neptune: But all that admin takes the joy of random expression out it.

Sun: Be as “random” and “casual” as you want. And then expect “random” and “casual” results.
But if you are “intent- full”, then the joy of realizing those feelings is not only conscious but also readily accessible WHENEVER you choose and WHEREVER you want with WHOEVER you choose.

Neptune: I understand, but it’s hard to concentrate on one thing with focus and energy.

Sun: Be easy with this. There is no urgency to “do” or “realize” anything in this red hot minute. You always have excellent timing.

Neptune: Yes ,yes, I get it. All should be joyful expression at a joyful time. I’ll just “know” it without thinking/ feeling it.

Sun: Always.

Neptune: You never let me forget that.

posted August 05, 2013 08:45 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Virgo Venus trine Taurus Saturn
Virgo Venus trine Capricorn Mars
Capricorn Mars trine Taurus Saturn
Cancer moon opposite Capricorn Mars:

Mars: I'm off to basic training tomorrow.
Moon: Sure hope I don't have a nervous breakdown!
Venus: I have a duty to my country. I want to serve it honorably. I can do this.
Saturn: It's gonna be tough. We all need to find a way to mellow out from the past.
Moon: I wish my family supported my decision. Mom doesn't want me to go.
Venus, Mars and Saturn in unison: [b]WE'RE GOING!
Moon: Okay, okay, don't let something like peace of mind or family stop you.
Mars: There's nothing for you here, Moon, you want to move ahead with your life. This is the best way to do it.
Moon: I believe women can do anything men can. I just don't know if I can get through basic without having a breakdown.
Mars: Just stay calm. We will get through this together.

approximately two years pass

Moon: I'm still upset!
Saturn: We all need a way to calm down. Ever think of meditation?
Moon: Hey, that might work. I always wanted to be Buddhist like mom.
Venus: Meditation is a great way to experience calm and peace. This is appealing.
Mars: Don't forget Jiu Jitsu. I'm going to sign us all up for classes.
Saturn: Meditation, martial arts. We have this psychology thing conquered.
Moon: Wait a minute, how can we be Buddhist and in the Marines? Buddhists see life as a whole and are adverse to killing.
Mars: Oh hush, moon, you like to rain on the party. War is honorable if it is a matter of life or death. Self defense. Protecting one's homeland is always honorable. It's the right thing to do.
Moon: If you say so, Mars. I guess you have a point. I totally believe in self defense.
Mars: Okay, that's settled. We are still all in this together so hunker down everybody. Stay strong. Stay tough!
Saturn: I'm in this for the long haul. I'm game if you are.
Venus: Count me in though I can be b#tchy.[/B]

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Oh, wow, you did a KITE! I am so impressed! I never really understood how these worked all together with that opposition. This was really helpful - thanks!

posted August 05, 2013 09:38 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Thanks Jkitty

The above configuration is based on a friend's natal chart. It could be a kite, if the moon is in closer aspect to Venus and Saturn forming sextiles. Her moon is at 0 degrees Cancer, so it's out of orb to Venus and Saturn. It's still opposite Mars by 7 degrees. It can be modified and different scenarios created. This particular one is based on her real-life dilemmas and decisions.

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posted August 06, 2013 06:32 PM            

Sun in Leo square Pluto in Scorpio:

Sun is showing Pluto his paintings after working hard on them.

Sun: (excited) What do you think? It's good, right? I'm going to give this one to this new girl for her birthday! She'll have all of me.
Pluto: You don't know her very well.
Sun: I do, it's been two weeks! And hey, we can get to know each other better this way.
Pluto: But this is your hard work, it has to be for someone who deserves it. Someone who can handle the passion you've poured into this.
Sun: Oh, don't be so silly, of course she'll love it. Who doesn't love getting my love?
Pluto: (suspiciously quiet, glares)
Sun: (rolls eyes) Ah, you're that thing again.
Pluto: It's what you need.
Sun: But this one is good, like, really good, she'll love it. I'm so tired of redoing this thing!
Pluto: And what if she gets scared off?
Sun: She won't.
Pluto: Look, you haven't heard this from me, but she's a golddigger.
Sun: Who told you that?! I know her, she's never--
Pluto: I've seen it. She only talked to you when you took her and her friends out for free drinks.
Sun: We were just being cosy.
Pluto: You have to be more careful. Until you know you can trust her, don't give her anything.
Sun: But then she'll think I'm boring. Which I'm not! I'm fun, bubbly, why wouldn't she want to be with me?
Pluto: Then make sure she comes to you.
Sun: She won't if I don't give her a chance.
Pluto: I think I know something.
Sun: (annoyed) Manipulating again? Come on, that's not fair.
Pluto: It's the only way to test things out.
Sun: Why does it have to be so hard? Does everything I do have to have some sort of deeper meaning? Just chill! I'm getting depressed already.
Pluto: Everything has a deeper meaning, do you even know yourself?
Sun: I'm not here for that.
Pluto: Maybe you should be.
Sun: I just want to see her.
Pluto: And you want her to like you, right?
Sun: Yes!
Pluto: You want her to want you, to go crazy over you.
Sun: (more tentative) Yes?
Pluto: Then keep it cool. Don't share everything. You can only do that with someone special.
Sun: But what are my paintings worth when I can't show them to anyone?
Pluto: They're personal. Don't show them.
Sun: But I made it so people would see it!

Pluto glares again, chilling Sun to the bone but he shakes it off.

Sun: You're just jealous. Admit it. You want me to fail, I'm all you have.

Pluto tosses him a frosty look.

Pluto: Right. Because you're just so (in an overly sarcastic tone) special.

Sun messes up with the new girl and it turns out she was using him after all. But Pluto is a little chilled himself. Sun does seem to see through him. Can't let that happen again. There's another thing Sun can never know about him.

It's a relief. Stuffed into the darkest corner of his psyche is that feeling of security that Sun will always come back to him, no matter how many girls he goes through or new "friends" he makes. He needs to have Sun to himself.

While Sun spends the next week sulking in bed and crying over how much he loved that girl, Pluto is thinking up some big plan to get back at her. If Sun admits defeat, he'll give up his new ideas.

Sun: No, I'm better than that!
Pluto: But you want it...

After a long silence, Sun loses his regal composure and kicks a chair in frustration.

Sun: Why do you always do this?
Pluto: To stop you from being so stupid and getting yourself hurt.
Sun: (scoffs) Are you trying to protect me or something? No way, that's not what I need. I don't need you.
Pluto: Watch me.

Sun storms out the door... only to come back five minutes later.

Sun: So how do you do it?

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posted August 06, 2013 06:51 PM            

"In true Pluto style, this one got a lot more serious than intended. . . and way longer than intended, too!!"

posted August 06, 2013 07:37 PM            

Thanks. <3

posted August 06, 2013 08:30 PM            

Mars (crying): Why can't we get along? We're both water signs! I want your love and affection -- is that too much to ask?
Venus (impatiently): Because YOU are soooo immature! Stop being such a baby. Zero degree? And RETROGRADE yet! Come back when you've grown up some!
Mars (getting angry): Do you think I LIKE being hooked up with such an OLD LADY! I mean you are going to be 28 in a minute. And in PISCES yet. You're practically on death's door!
Venus (clearly upset): I admit the idea of changing signs scares me. I don't need you to rub my face in it. I've tried so hard to learn to love unconditionally and I'm running out of time! Just when I though I'd gotten the hang of it, YOU had to come along and square me with all your Moon-like temper tantrums. You're so juvenile, such a little boy. I want a MAN and I end up with YOU for a partner, a zero-degree retrograde Cancer Mars. (Venus is now so upset that she's started to cry, too.)
Mars (passing her the tissues): Here.
Venus (accepting them): Thanks.
Mars: Do you want to go for a pedicure?
Venus: I'd like that.
Mars: Yah, I know. I really make you dance hard in those pointe shoes during ballet class.
Venus: Yah, you do. . . Thanks for that by the way. It's kind of nice that you give me the energy to pursue the things I love.
Mars: You're welcome. . .I kind of like to dance, too. And you make us look so pretty! You know I really do like and admire you. And we are both water signs. We DO have some things in common.
Venus: Yah, I know; I'm the one who buys the tissues (laughs). . .I'm sorry I called you immature.
Mars: And I'm sorry I called you an old lady. . .Can we try again to be friends?
Venus: Okay. . . At least until the next time you step on my toes

posted August 07, 2013 06:33 PM            

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Originally posted by meissieri:
Wow, those out-of-sign ones are tricky to get down. I like seeing the common ground showing up so naturally.

Do you feel it more between late Gemini and Pisces or early Cancer and Aries? (If they had been in-sign.)

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I think you still FEEL the square, but the tension is less noticeable to others when it's out-of-sign.

posted August 08, 2013 02:24 PM            

Jupiter: let's dig a tunnel from our basement to the cemetery across the street and take all the buried jewelry...

Moon: WHAT did you just say?!?!?!???

Jupiter: you heard me. It's just lying there, no one will know and I need a new occupation that utilizes my talents?

Moon: so, you want to become a grave robber????

Jupiter: Robber is such a harsh word. More like wealth reaquisition specialist?

Moon: You want to dissecrate hallowed ground and take objects that don't belong to you! Have you ANY idea what the neighbors will say when they catch you?

Jupiter: They wouldn't catch me but they would probably say 'why didn't I think of that'?

Moon: unethical and macabre!

Jupiter: its not like they are using it! They are dead! Besides, you were going on about that archaeological dig last week in Tibet. They dug up the bones and that didn't seem to bother you?

Moon: Pauses

Jupiter (sensing weakness): it's not PRACTICAL or ethical for perfectly good objects to sit under the ground when we don't have enough heating oil. Go get me your garden spade!

Moon This is sick. We aren't discussing this anymore. If you want to dig up graves, go to archaeological school. I'm done! You want to publicly shame me forever?

Jupiter: c'mon. You know you love antique jewelry!

Moon: Stony silence

Jupiter: diamonds can't shine in dirt!

Moon: glares and stamps off

Jupiter: (calls after). Fine, I'll get the spade myself but don't expect me to share if you won't help!!!

posted August 09, 2013 06:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Jkitty:
No, nothing specific comes to mind. It's just that others seem to see me as very "together" and "complete", like I don't need anyone else. I'm quite independent but there are other aspects that also contribute to this. I've also been told (by one of my brothers-in-law who told me he finds me very attractive) that I'm oblivious to guys displaying interest in me; that's probably my Neptune, but it could be the out-of-sign Venus-Mars square thing. If a guy is interested, he couldn't be subtle about it!

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posted August 09, 2013 07:04 PM            

Ah, no, that's pretty good, better set some standards than go for just anyone not to be alone. (Something I should learn from.) I thin, if it clicks, you'll know and then it's easier to be open to it. I like that you have so much faith. I can see the Pisces.

posted August 09, 2013 07:16 PM            

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Originally posted by meissieri:
I like that you have so much faith. I can see the Pisces.

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And it's squaring a 9th house Mars.

Rest well. Happy trails to you.

posted August 09, 2013 07:49 PM            

Venus in Virgo square Moon in Gemini.
Venus: She's pretty.
Moon: I'm already bored and I haven't even introduced myself yet. I don't have an attention span. Relationships are pointless.

Mars in Virgo square Moon in Gemini.
Mars: The house is a mess.
Moon: Cleaning takes forever. I'm going to browse a few hundred million websites for the rest of the weekend.

Sun and Saturn in Scorpio conjunct Mercury and Pluto in Libra, all square Capricorn Rising/Ascendant.
Sun, Mercury, Saturn and Pluto: I am an insane sex god exiled from a different dimension where everything is fair and everyone is diplomatic yet honest and extremely hot.
Ascendant: I have a good job and I'm starting a small business, and I'm a gentleman.

posted August 09, 2013 09:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Blackbird:
Sun and Saturn in Scorpio conjunct Mercury and Pluto in Libra, all square Capricorn Rising/Ascendant.
Sun, Mercury, Saturn and Pluto: I am an insane sex god exiled from a different dimension where everything is fair and everyone is diplomatic yet honest and extremely hot.
Ascendant: I have a good job and I'm starting a small business.

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