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lulz
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posted August 10, 2013 09:10 PM
 
what type do you like?someone that will stick withcu no matter what? or someone that will stick with you when you are right? do you test it? (to leo/ scorpio people especially) IP: Logged |
Zander916
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posted August 10, 2013 09:18 PM
Someone who sticks with me know matter what. Well... given that neither of us does something terrible to hurt the other. I'm Leo and I DEFINITELY test it. I don't do this purposely. It's just like it's wired in. I don't know if all Leos are this way but if I commit and I trust I put my whole self into it. So I'm weary of being snubbed. So I unknowingly do this hot/cold thing. IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted August 10, 2013 09:38 PM
If I feel others' loyalty to me is secure, that's all I need. I have a tendency to be a little controlling, but that's only when I feel like loyalty to me is being rivaled.  IP: Logged |
Zander916
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posted August 10, 2013 09:46 PM
Oh I should point out the "testing" is only early on. Basically in this period when mutual interest is well established but before an fairly serious commitment. So that period when I'm feeling a little vulnerable/insecure. IP: Logged |
Lunae
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posted August 10, 2013 10:05 PM
For a Scorpio, I think I'm very loose hahaha.  I think I'm too trusting to others. I don't oblige them to be loyal to me, it's more like their own decision if they want to. That way I can really see who my real friends are haha. That's also why I think I get betrayed a lot HAHA. Of course, we would all like someone who would stick with us no matter what haha. However, I wouldn't want someone who would stick with me whenever I think I'm right. I need someone to call me out on my BS if they have to haha.  IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted August 10, 2013 10:08 PM
Yes?
I love you lulz but I think everyone wants loyalty. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted August 10, 2013 10:13 PM
Someone that will stick with me no matter what. Aries Sun / Taurus Moon IP: Logged |
MsPrism
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posted August 10, 2013 10:17 PM
I like someone to stick with me no matter what but to be honest when their opinion differs from my own. I don't like meanness when I or they express their opinion though. I'm not a Leo or Scorpio and I do not test this. I just notice the times when I expect loyalty and it's not there. In those cases, I just pull back a little more and do not mind telling them lies to keep them happy and to keep myself protected. IP: Logged |
sugarnfeist
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posted August 10, 2013 10:20 PM
Loyalty is big for me, as I expect my partner to be both faithful and devoted, and I give the same in return. If I have to question your faithfulness, then the relationship will not work because security is important to me. In terms of devotion, I need to know that when issues arise, as they always do in a relationship, that he won't just run and hit the exit. I don't need a fair weather partner. If you can't love me at my worst, then you don't deserve me at my best. Oh and I don't have any Leo placements. I'll claim what scorpionic placements I have -Scorpio descendant
-Scorpio Jupiter
-Moon sextile Pluto (Hades moon)
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 10, 2013 10:21 PM
I like to have my space lol. It's nice when people will stand by others when they are down on their luck though. I don't feel the need to test. If someone is hateful and button pushes on a regular basis, I cut them loose and don't look back. I have Venus in Leo, Neptune in Scorpio and an eighth house moon in Taurus. IP: Logged |
lulz
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posted August 10, 2013 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by sugarnfeist:
If you can't love me at my worst, then you don't deserve me at my best.
is this what the pisces forum taught you?  IP: Logged |
sugarnfeist
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posted August 10, 2013 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by lulz:
is this what the pisces forum taught you?
Darn right. But I think I do judge someone by how well they handle the tides of the relationship. **Insert New Edition " Can you stand the rain" video**
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sugarnfeist
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posted August 10, 2013 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I like to have my space lol. It's nice when people will stand by others when they are down on their luck though. I don't feel the need to test. If someone is hateful and button pushes on a regular basis, I cut them loose and don't look back. I have Venus in Leo, Neptune in Scorpio and an eighth house moon in Taurus.
I have a lot of friends with Moon in Taurus. You all do seem to get my need for space and not take it to personally. Plus you all never seem put off by my Virgo moon aloofness. Love Cancer moons too, but need for space is something we struggle to negotiate with. ------------------
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orocairion
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posted August 10, 2013 10:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sugarnfeist:
I don't need a fair weather partner. If you can't love me at my worst, then you don't deserve me at my best.
Except when people start to overdo that, always being their worst to those who love them. Everybody has a breaking point. I like people to be loyal just like anyone else but even as a Sag with Mars Pluto conjunction in Scorpio, I find the testing of people or being hot/cold with them fu*king obnoxious. Testing might land you in a "self-fulfilling prophecy" type of situation with some people. And there are far more subtle and less straining ways to check for someone's loyalties, if you can spot subtleties in people's behaviour. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 10, 2013 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by sugarnfeist:
I have a lot of friends with Moon in Taurus. You all do seem to get my need for space and not take it to personally. Plus you all never seem put off by my Virgo moon aloofness. Love Cancer moons too, but need for space is something we struggle to negotiate with.
I have sun in Virgo so I totally understand bouts of aloofness, haha. Virgo and Taurus planets and luminaries understand each other, for the most part.IP: Logged |
sugarnfeist
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posted August 10, 2013 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by orocairion:
Except when people start to overdo that, always being their worst to those who love them.Everybody has a breaking point.
Yeah I hate that too. I'm pretty happy go lucky and I'm not going to tolerate someone who is a jerk all the time. I wouldn't say I test men, but how a man reacts to a disagreement tells me a lot about whether or not we can make it long term. A. If he flies into a rage, starts smashing things, or out of sheer stupidity threatens to hit me, he will get the deuces. I don't do illogical hotheads. B. If he rolls over and plays dead to appease me every time, with very little push back...that kind of turns me off too. -_- C. If he stands his ground, but manages to stay in control. Thumbs up. D. If he stands his ground, manages to stay in control AND he is able to bend, admit when he is wrong, and/or come to a compromise when necessary. Swoon...when can we get married. I'm in lurve. Virgo moon/Aquarius Mercury/Libra Mars- I prefer men who are emotionally stable and logical.
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Zander916
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posted August 10, 2013 10:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by orocairion:
I find the testing of people or being hot/cold with them fu*king obnoxious.Testing might land you in a "self-fulfilling prophecy" type of situation with some people.
It's not always the case and never intentional but yeah, it's been described to me as several things, none positive. Oh well. If they chose to move on somewhere else. See ya. Actually, to be truthful, it's been done to me... mmm... 3 times this year. After about the 3rd time or so that they do it I just move along. IP: Logged |
CatMote
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posted August 10, 2013 10:58 PM
considering i have super trust in myself that im being fair 99% of the time, i usually like when my partner will stick with me no matter what because i will be fighting for them too. ------------------
Sun Aries Moon Pisces
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Saturn in Aquarius Pluto in Scorpio
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starrystratosphere
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posted August 10, 2013 11:02 PM
I believe when there is love there is also loyalty. I do not do twisted **** to test out loyalty, I just expect to be shown some love if it is there. Gemini sun cancer stellium.IP: Logged |
Zander916
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posted August 10, 2013 11:05 PM
Ah well... I'm coming out as a bad guy, or so it feels. At the time that I'm doing it, there really isn't loyalty even involved. No attachment involved. Very early. I could explain it all day and it wouldn't matter.
I'll leave you fine people to it.  IP: Logged |
LionFish
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posted August 10, 2013 11:07 PM
Unwavering loyalty is my favorite kind and it's the type most of my friends give to me. Even when I'm acting like a spoiled brat..I don't demand it, it's just freely given and is probably why most of my friends consider me to be their "best friend" while I have only 2 people that I could even say are that close to me. I don't purposely test it once a relationship is established. I give my all and expect them to do the same. I don't like games being played with me so I do my best not to do it with others. But if a situation arises where their loyalty to me is needed I do judge rather harshly on those who waver even slightly.. I'm a Leo ASC with Sun/Merc/Venus and Saturn trine my ASC IP: Logged |
lulz
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posted August 10, 2013 11:10 PM
i am talking about friends to just to be clear. friends and partners... even family or your dog. IP: Logged |
lulz
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posted August 10, 2013 11:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by LionFish:
Unwavering loyalty is my favorite kind and it's the type most of my friends give to me. Even when I'm acting like a spoiled brat..
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orocairion
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posted August 10, 2013 11:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Zander916:
Ah well... I'm coming out as a bad guy, or so it feels. At the time that I'm doing it, there really isn't loyalty even involved. No attachment involved. Very early. I could explain it all day and it wouldn't matter.
I'll leave you fine people to it.
Is not about being a bad guy or a good guy. I can see why someone would feel the need to test someone, but it's something that can backfire badly and you might miss on someone great. And like I said, there are better ways to check for someone's loyalties. IP: Logged |
lulz
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posted August 10, 2013 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by sugarnfeist:
Yeah I hate that too. I'm pretty happy go lucky and I'm not going to tolerate someone who is a jerk all the time. I wouldn't say I test men, but how a man reacts to a disagreement tells me a lot about whether or not we can make it long term. A. If he flies into a rage, starts smashing things, or out of sheer stupidity threatens to hit me, he will get the deuces. I don't do illogical hotheads. B. If he rolls over and plays dead to appease me every time, with very little push back...that kind of turns me off too. -_- C. If he stands his ground, but manages to stay in control. Thumbs up. D. If he stands his ground, manages to stay in control AND he is able to bend, admit when he is wrong, and/or come to a compromise when necessary. Swoon...when can we get married. I'm in lurve. Virgo moon/Aquarius Mercury/Libra Mars- I prefer men who are emotionally stable and logical.
what if he just uses sex every time to take your mind of the issue? you forgot that one. IP: Logged |
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