posted August 17, 2013 06:57 AM            

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Originally posted by LovelyKitty:
Yes , agree with cancer moon

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posted August 17, 2013 06:59 AM            

- Taurus-Moon (Scorpio-Sun)
- Leo-Moon (Cancer-Sun)

Me;
- Scorpio-Moon (Leo-Sun)

I guess it's pretty personal?

posted August 17, 2013 07:44 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Ami, I think you should have used terms like "gratitude" and "willingnes to return the favor" instead of "loyalty".

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No, Cappy. That is the point. I don't want anything back, even though it seems like I do. The person can go away, find new friends etc
I don't want to be paid back for what I give. By loyalty, I mean not to stab me in the back when there is no reason to, when I have not done anything wrong.

That is what I call loyalty.

I have friends I have not spoken to in a long time but if I needed them, they would be there and vice versa.

Loyalty is a mindset that some moons don't seem to have is my larger point.

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posted August 17, 2013 07:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Jkitty:
I consider myself loyal with a couple of conditions.

If someone is "toxic" in their behavior (the way they are or treat me is or becomes detrimental to my well being), I will end that kind of relationship regardless of what they feel they may have done in the past to "bind" me to them. Emotional "blackmail" doesn't work on me. This is like cutting off a limb that has developed gangrene, radical but necessary.

If I see that someone generally treats others poorly, I will keep as much distance between myself and that person as the situation will allow. So if I see that someone loves to gossip or put down others or are physically violent, it doesn't matter what they've "done" for me. Even people with character flaws occasionally do something nice for someone, but even if that someone is me, they can't "buy" my loyalty as though it were a commodity.

One way that I'm VERY loyal to everyone, even in the previous two situations is that if you've ever shared a confidence and made it clear that it's a secret, I'll take it to my grave before telling anyone (unless as a public school teacher I'm legally required to report such as child abuse).

I'm a Leo moon.

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Yes, Leo moons have always seemed to value loyalty. I was close with one and she and I will always be close even if we don't connect for a long time and the reason is that we would be there for each other, no questions asked.

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posted August 17, 2013 07:46 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Proven to be the most loyal ones (for life);

- Taurus-Moon (Scorpio-Sun)
- Leo-Moon (Cancer-Sun)

Me;
- Scorpio-Moon (Leo-Sun)

I guess it's pretty personal?

I don't find that much loyalty in Pisces-Moons I'm afraid. Well, I'm simply allergic for their run to avoid confrontation.

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On consideration of the Pisces Moons I have known, I agree.
How are you, Mir?

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posted August 17, 2013 08:16 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Earlier you talked about helping back. Make up your mind

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Sorry, What is your Moon? Maybe, you don't understand what I am saying because your Moon does not resonate with it?

I am very clear on what I mean. I have seen the situation play out with the different moons to the point that I feel I can make a theory about it.

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posted August 17, 2013 08:20 AM            

I had one friend--Leo moon. I knew that what I told her stayed with her. I did not worry about this. When she saw me in trouble, she jumped in as if it was she who was being attacked.
That is what I do and that is what I call loyalty.

I had two friends with Libra Moons. One walked away when it would have cost her something to stand up.

The other jumped in and started attacking me with the other people.

The 3rd Libra moon is a relative who never understood what it meant to stand up for a loved one. It was beyond her until I finally got so strong that she managed to be somewhat loyal just because I would not let her off the hook. This person could not figure it out herself, though.

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posted August 17, 2013 08:23 AM            

I think Scorpio Moon would be the same.

Like K said--the fixed moons understand this concept.

I think the Air Moons may not have the DNA for it.

Cappy and Cancer--the Cardinal Moons do.

Libra Moon does not. I don't know any Aries Moons well. What do you think?

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posted August 17, 2013 08:26 AM            

I am sorry I have been disloyal to you after everything that happened.
You were there for me when I needed you, you offered me your help.
And I tried to do the same at first, and then I cowardly walked away, without even telling you why.
I regret what I did, it was a mistake, but I am glad we talked about it.
I hope in time you will forgive me with your heart and not just your mind.
I will try my best to be honest with you, and everyone else in my life, from now on.

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posted August 17, 2013 08:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well, if someone helped me when I was down and they were up. If I got up, I would never diss them because I rose higher.

I am very thankful for anyone who ever gave to me. I take that seriously. [b]If I am down and you help me, I will give back to you, no matter if I get to be the President or the CEO, I never forge1t anyone who was good to me.

This must be the Cancer Moon and Mars.

Some Moons are like "Screw you. You helped lift me but #@## you. Now, I am up so the heck with you"

I don't work like that but some people do. I think it is the Moon placement.

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I thought you were talking here about helping those who helped you and not treating them like crap at least.

posted August 17, 2013 08:41 AM            

For my part, if someone is good to me, I will always be there for them, the best I can. I just have that personal value, especially if I was really vulnerable when they were there for me. That amps it up a lot.

Anyone can be good to you when you are riding high. It is when you are low that it really matters.

I am fine with my side of it. My dilemma is trying to understand the various moons who don't think this way, as Libra Moon does not seem to.

What do you think?

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posted August 17, 2013 08:42 AM            

To me loyalty in the first place means no stabbing in the back. No hidden agenda. Defending when it's necessary. Being there for me - very appreciated, no matter if I helped before or not. Every good act should be appreciated, not taken for granted.

posted August 17, 2013 08:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
One Taurus Moon I know understands loyalty like a Cancer Moon does.

I think Scorpio Moon would be the same.

Like K said--the fixed moons understand this concept.

I think the Air Moons may not have the DNA for it.

Cappy and Cancer--the Cardinal Moons do.

Libra Moon does not. I don't know any Aries Moons well. What do you think?

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I believe it is a matter of synastry too.
Leo, Aries and Sag Moons are fierce and proud as fire moons so regarding the example you gave, they would stand up immediately.Its like they are fear-less.
I have an Aries Moon in the 11th house. When it comes to my friends, my fiery passionate side of my Moon comes out to stand up for them. I have also experienced this with Leo and Sag moons. Its the fire speaking here.

I dont want to be harsh on Air Moons. I have had positive experiences with all of them. Maybe Libras are more quiet, they wont exactly yell at eveybody else, they will try it in a more diplomatic way, but they will be there. Gemini has been proven loyal to me too.

I dont have much experience with water moons, but Ive seen that Pisces Moon have trouble even standing up for themshelves so I guess it might be hard for them to stand up for someone else.

I dont have experience with many earth moons either. Virgo Moons will definitely stand up for you, I have plenty of friends with Fire influences.

posted August 17, 2013 08:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
One Taurus Moon I know understands loyalty like a Cancer Moon does.

I think Scorpio Moon would be the same.

Like K said--the fixed moons understand this concept.

I think the Air Moons may not have the DNA for it.

Cappy and Cancer--the Cardinal Moons do.

Libra Moon does not. I don't know any Aries Moons well. What do you think?

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posted August 17, 2013 08:52 AM            

One Moon would process an experience differently than another.

It is easy to say I would do such and such but I have seen that talk is super cheap. That is one thing I have learned on here.

I am not saying this to any person, in particular, just a general thing I have learned.

The most "spiritual" person can be the biggest backstabber.

I don't listen to words anymore. I take note of actions. This is a maturity on my part and well needed.

I have learned a lot on this thread and appreciate everyone's opinions. Thank you all for them

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posted August 17, 2013 08:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Xena:
My father was sagittarius moon in 7th house and he was very loyal to my mother.My mother has libra moon in 12th house and she was also very loyal to him, still thinks of him every day even after 8 1/2 years since his death. I am Sagittarius moon in 4th house and my sister has sagittarius moon in 9th house.

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I don't know any Saggi Moons, so can't comment.

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posted August 17, 2013 08:55 AM            

it feels a bit like *The more you get to know pisces the more you love Scorpio* .. euh.. their fighting spirit and lack of run at the wrong time mainly.

posted August 17, 2013 08:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am thinking that one's inner apparatus of processing is very much about the Moons.

One Moon would process an experience differently than another.

It is easy to say I would do such and such but I have seen that talk is super cheap. That is one thing I have learned on here.

I am not saying this to any person, in particular, just a general thing I have learned.

The most "spiritual" person can be the biggest backstabber.

I don't listen to words anymore. I take note of actions. This is a maturity on my part and well needed.

I have learned a lot on this thread and appreciate everyone's opinions. Thank you all for them

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As far as I know, my actions show that I'm loyal, as well - I don't remember backstabbing you.