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Mercurian Intellect
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posted September 28, 2013 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Hehe I guess we have Virgo-telepathy

Hehe, maybe

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posted September 28, 2013 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
So what does Vulcan represent exactly anyway?
I use it, yet just assume it's critical/logical thinking skills and the Virgo characteristics, am I right? Also do you notice your Vulcan?

I do feel my Vulcan, yes.
I resonate with his mythology.
Vulcan was rejected for his flaws and was cursed to live in a volcano where he made "perfect" weapons and artifacts for the gods (symbolic of Virgo's service to others nature and need to have/do things with perfection, according to their own ideal standards of what is considered perfect), in the hopes that he would be accepted again by the Gods.
Vulcan was also very idealistic in love.
He had predetermined fantasies of an ideal lover and was patiently waiting for her. He refrained from being involved with anyone else (actually he didn't even have no interest in doing so) as his "virginity" belonged to the one he considered the love of his life. (Very much like most Virgo's views on love, including mine hehe)
And when he wed the one he loved (Venus), she found he couldn't satisfy her and so she looked elsewhere for pleasure from Mars and other Gods, while Vulcan couldn't do anything but watch weep.
For that Venus was punished by having her arms cut off my Zeus and told her that beauty will come to her only when she realizes what the power of true beauty (and love) was all about.
So in Venus's helpless state, Vulcan took care of her and tended to her wholeheartedly (again, traits of Virgo).
And it was through the purity of his love and devotion that Venus realized what true love and beauty really was, and she was given back her power of beauty.

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posted September 28, 2013 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IrisRainbow:
Mine is almost at the 17th degree but I'm attracted to Aquarius no matter where their sun falls(sixth or seventh house) I don't know why

Hmm maybe you have your other attraction houses somehow symbolizing Aqua energy as well, through house placements, or contacts to Uranus/Saturn.

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posted September 28, 2013 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
I do feel my Vulcan, yes.
I resonate with his mythology.
Vulcan was rejected for his flaws and was cursed to live in a volcano where he made "perfect" weapons and artifacts for the gods (symbolic of Virgo's need to have and do things with perfection, according to their own ideal standards of what is considered "perfect", and it also represents the "being of service to others" nature), in the hopes that he would be accepted by the Gods again.
Vulcan was also very idealistic in love.
He had predetermined fantasies of an ideal lover and was patiently waiting for her. He refrained from being involved with anyone else (actually he had no interest in doing so) as his "virginity" belonged to the one he consider the love of his life. (Very much most like Virgo's views on love, including mine)
And when he wed the one he loved (Venus), she found he couldn't satisfy her and so she looked elsewhere for pleasure from Mars and other Gods, while Vulcan couldn't do anything but watch weep. .
For that Venus was punished by having her arms cut off my Zeus and told her that beauty will come to her only when she realizes what true beauty (and love) is all about.
So in Venus's helpless state, Vulcan took care of her and tended to her wholeheartedly (again, traits of Virgo).
And it was through the purity of his love that Venus realized what true love and beauty really was, and she was given back her power of beauty.

But does it represent critical/logical thinking skills as well?
I fit The Vulcan description so well as well.

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posted September 28, 2013 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Well not really.
I have an Aquarius Sun, but Pisces Mercury.
I'm definitely not a Pisces Mercury, lol.
My Moon is Sagittarius, but I'm not very optimistic or crave adventure.
My Venus is Pisces. While that can fit, my love is more intellectual like Libra.
But then again, Pisces is shy too, so I don't know. But I'd say Libra because I'm really romantic and more service-oriented to make my partner happy by doing romantic things for her.
My Ascendant is Capricorn. I act very serious, but I act serious at home too, so I don't really know for that one. My depositor Saturn for Ascendant, is in Leo and I don't act Leo like. While I'm competitive, it's more in a Virgo - perfectionist kind of way.
My Mars is Aries, definitely not aggressive whatsoever, lol. I'm actually the complete opposite, lol.
The only ones that seem to fit are my Aquarius Sun, and Pisces Venus a bit.
But My Virgo Sun in Tropical is trine Uranus, so that can be it.
All the Houses stay the same.

Yeah, I don't really fit my draco placements either, except for maybe Venus in Pisces, but that could be because of my natal Venus squaring Neptune lol.

I have this theory, that because the Draco chart is derived from the nodes, which represent your soul mission, lessons need to be learned and past lives, that our Draco placements are what we are STRIVING to become or the lessons we need to learn in order to live up to our fullest potential in this lifetime.
I could be wrong though, but I think it fits.

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posted September 28, 2013 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Yeah, I don'y really fit my draco placements either, except for maybe Venus in Pisces, but that could be because of my natal Venus squaring Neptune lol.

I have this theory, that because the Draco chart is derived from the nodes, which represent your soul mission, lessons need to be learned and past lives, that our Draco placements are what we are STRIVING to become or the lessons we need to learn in order to live up to our fullest potential in this lifetime.
I could be wrong though, but I think it fits.


Maybe, it can make sense.
I have Venus trine Neptune in the regular chart but it's at a 9 degree orb, so very weak trine.

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posted September 28, 2013 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
But does it represent critical/logical thinking skills as well?
I fit The Vulcan description so well as well.

Hmm not so sure if Vulcan possessed any critical/logical thinking skills but I guess he did have some form of high intelligence to make all those weapons for the Gods lol.
So yeah, I guess you could say Vulcan has to do with logical thinking... I mean he planned out very carefully how he would make the Gods accept him again...
Sounds pretty smart to me lol.

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posted September 28, 2013 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Hmm not so sure if Vulcan possessed any critical/logical thinking skills but I guess he did have some form of high intelligence to make all those weapons for the Gods lol.
So yeah, I guess you could say Vulcan has to do with logical thinking... I mean he planned out very carefully how he'd he would make the Gods accept him...
Sounds pretty smart to me lol.

Yeah because Virgo is critical/logical thinking intelligence, so I would think that is one of the things that Vulcan represents in a chart.
Also, what do you use for Taurus's modern ruler? I use the Earth.

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posted September 28, 2013 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah because Virgo is critical/logical thinking intelligence, so I would think that is one of the things that Vulcan represents in a chart.
Also, what do you use for Taurus's modern ruler? I use the Earth.

For Taurus I just use Venus. I haven't looked into exploring its modern ruler much, but on some sites I seen that Pan-Horus rules Taurus.

Though I'm not so sure how Earth differs from Pan-Horus. I'll have to do some research on that.

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posted September 28, 2013 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
For Taurus I just use Venus. I haven't looked into exploring its modern ruler much, but on some sites I seen that Pan-Horus rules Taurus.

Though I'm not so sure how Earth differs from Apollo-Horus. I'll have to do some research on that.


Yeah, I've read Pan-Horus as well. Also some other ones.
I use Earth though because just like Leo is ruled by the Sun, why can't Taurus be ruled by Earth, right?
Earth is directly opposite your Sun.
So our Earth is in Pisces.
So the only way to have a domicile Earth is to have a Scorpio Sun.
I think Earth pretty much represents what Taurus is.

Alright, I'm off to bed. "Bed? It's 8:00 in the morning... shouldn't you be waking up right about now?" Well yeah, that's exactly my point, I haven't went to sleep yet. Lol. Well it was nice meeting and chatting with you Lavender. My name's John btw. Goodnight

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posted September 28, 2013 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah, I've read Pan-Horus as well. Also some other ones.
I use Earth though because just like Leo is ruled by the Sun, why can't Taurus be ruled by Earth, right?
Earth is directly opposite your Sun.
So our Earth is in Pisces. I think it pretty much represents what Taurus is.

Alright, I'm off to bed. "Bed? It's 8:00 in the morning... shouldn't you be waking up right about now?" Well yeah, that's exactly my point, I haven't when to sleep yet. Lol. Well it was nice meeting and chatting with you Lavender. My name's John btw. Goodnight


Yeah it makes sense why Earth would rule Taurus.

Lol I should be heading off to bed too, its 5:00 AM where I live, I have very erratic sleeping patterns lol (Uranus in 6th, what can I say )

It was nice meeting and talking to you as well, John

Hope you have a good sleep!


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posted September 28, 2013 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm so glad other people are starting to talk about secondary houses. Usually it's just Ceridwen and myself.

Secondary houses are... THE HIDDEN INDICATORS OF ATTRACTION!

After looking the obvious indicators of romantic attraction, as is shown directly by the 5th ,7th and 8th houses, I’ll start examining the HIDDEN INDICATORS OF ATTACTION in the person’s chart…

Our SECONDARY 5th, 7th and 8th house cusps…

Just as we all have the PRIMARY 5th , 7th and 8th house cusps in our chart, which we all know about, there are also other houses in our chart which function as secondary versions of these houses. A backup, if you will, that provides extra information about our tastes in that area of life… These ‘backup’ houses are called SECONDARY HOUSES, and I’ve found, they can be amazingly revealing in terms of our romantic tastes when scrutinizing the secondary 5th, 7th and 8th house cusps and rulers…

I’ll continue to explain this using the Dsc as an example. But remember that EVERY house in your chart (including the 5th and the 8th ) has another secondary house that functions in a supplementary way regarding the theme that house.

Here’s how it works… (Using the Dsc as an example)

Every sign in the zodiac is naturally linked (on a symbolic level) to a certain house cusp in our chart… Aries is linked to the 1st house, Taurus is linked to the 2nd house, Gemini is linked to the 3rd house, Cancer is linked to the 4th house, and so on….

So if you want to know which of the house cusps in your chart are symbolically linked to your Dsc… look at the sign of the 7th house cusp (our PRIMARY 7th house), and then find the house in your chart that is symbolically linked to your Dsc cusp sign. For example, if you have a Pisces DSC look at the 12th house. In the case of a Pisces Dsc, the 12 house will revel supplementary information about who you are attracted to, and who you have chemistry with. Also look at planets in the 12th, the sign of house ruler, and how this ruler is aspected. In another example, if you have an Aquarius Dsc look at your natal 11th house for extra clues on what you like in partnership. For a Capricorn Dsc look to the 10th house. For a Virgo Dsc look at the 6th house. For an Aries Dsc look at the 1st house, and so on through the zodiac….

The house symbolically linked to the DSC sign is the ‘SECONDARY DSC’ and it can function as an extension of the 7th house….. In terms of what you attract, what type of partnership experiences you have, and what you look for in a partner…. It’s like the secondary Dsc is an ECHO of the primary or original natal 7th house…. The first time an echo bounces it is the clearest and the loudest…. And this echo is shown by the house symbolically linked to the sign on 7th house cusp…

Looking at it in another way… People with an Aries Dsc look for others who ‘energize’ their personality and self assertion…. So when a partner places planets in Libra or Scorpio in this persons 1st house, it will feel like natural partnership material for them. Same thing for people with a Gemini Dsc… They look for those who will energize them in the area of communication…. So when people put planets in this person’s 3rd house of communication, it also brings to the fore issues of partnership… And for people with a Sagittarius Dsc, they look for others that they can share their beliefs with, and explore with, both mentally and physically… So when people put planets into this person’s 9th house it inspires them to want to join forces with this person… And as you can guess it continues like this on through the zodiac using Dsc signs…

FOR ANYONE STILL CONFUSED ABOUT LOCATING THE ‘SECONDARY DSC’…

Here’s a list of the house cusps to look to as an extension of your DSC for each rising sign. These house cusps are symbolically linked to the sign on your DSC… showing what other traits you are attracted to in others, apart from just what the DSC alone shows.

Aries rising, Libra DSC… The 7th House has double importance.

Taurus rising, Scorpio DSC… Look to the 8th House.

Gemini rising, Sagittarius DSC… Look to the 9th House

Cancer rising, Capricorn DSC… Look to the 10th House

Leo rising, Aquarius DSC… Look to the 11th House

Virgo rising, Pisces DSC… Look to the 12th House

Libra rising, Aries DSC… Look to the 1st House

Scorpio rising, Taurus DSC… Look to the 2nd House

Sagittarius rising, Gemini DSC… Look to the 3rd House

Capricorn rising, Cancer DSC… Look to the 4th House

Aquarius rising, Leo DSC… Look to the 5th House

Pisces rising, Virgo DSC… Look to the 6th House

You can use the same method on any house. So if I were interested in 6th house stuff, and I had Taurus on the 6th house cusp, I could then also look at my 2nd house to find extended info on my 6th house. Every house in our chart has a secondary 'back-up' house that provides supplementary information on that house.

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posted September 28, 2013 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
I'm so glad other people are starting to talk about secondary houses. Usually it's just Ceridwen and myself.

Secondary houses are... THE HIDDEN INDICATORS OF ATTRACTION!

After looking the obvious indicators of romantic attraction, as is shown directly by the 5th ,7th and 8th houses, I’ll start examining the HIDDEN INDICATORS OF ATTACTION in the person’s chart…

Our SECONDARY 5th, 7th and 8th house cusps…

Just as we all have the PRIMARY 5th , 7th and 8th house cusps in our chart, which we all know about, there are also other houses in our chart which function as secondary versions of these houses. A backup, if you will, that provides extra information about our tastes in that area of life… These ‘backup’ houses are called SECONDARY HOUSES, and I’ve found, they can be amazingly revealing in terms of our romantic tastes when scrutinizing the secondary 5th, 7th and 8th house cusps and rulers…

I’ll continue to explain this using the Dsc as an example. But remember that EVERY house in your chart (including the 5th and the 8th ) has another secondary house that functions in a supplementary way regarding the theme that house.

Here’s how it works… (Using the Dsc as an example)

Every sign in the zodiac is naturally linked (on a symbolic level) to a certain house cusp in our chart… Aries is linked to the 1st house, Taurus is linked to the 2nd house, Gemini is linked to the 3rd house, Cancer is linked to the 4th house, and so on….

So if you want to know which of the house cusps in your chart are symbolically linked to your Dsc… look at the sign of the 7th house cusp (our PRIMARY 7th house), and then find the house in your chart that is symbolically linked to your Dsc cusp sign. For example, if you have a Pisces DSC look at the 12th house. In the case of a Pisces Dsc, the 12 house will revel supplementary information about who you are attracted to, and who you have chemistry with. Also look at planets in the 12th, the sign of house ruler, and how this ruler is aspected. In another example, if you have an Aquarius Dsc look at your natal 11th house for extra clues on what you like in partnership. For a Capricorn Dsc look to the 10th house. For a Virgo Dsc look at the 6th house. For an Aries Dsc look at the 1st house, and so on through the zodiac….

The house symbolically linked to the DSC sign is the ‘SECONDARY DSC’ and it can function as an extension of the 7th house….. In terms of what you attract, what type of partnership experiences you have, and what you look for in a partner…. It’s like the secondary Dsc is an ECHO of the primary or original natal 7th house…. The first time an echo bounces it is the clearest and the loudest…. And this echo is shown by the house symbolically linked to the sign on 7th house cusp…

Looking at it in another way… People with an Aries Dsc look for others who ‘energize’ their personality and self assertion…. So when a partner places planets in Libra or Scorpio in this persons 1st house, it will feel like natural partnership material for them. Same thing for people with a Gemini Dsc… They look for those who will energize them in the area of communication…. So when people put planets in this person’s 3rd house of communication, it also brings to the fore issues of partnership… And for people with a Sagittarius Dsc, they look for others that they can share their beliefs with, and explore with, both mentally and physically… So when people put planets into this person’s 9th house it inspires them to want to join forces with this person… And as you can guess it continues like this on through the zodiac using Dsc signs…

FOR ANYONE STILL CONFUSED ABOUT LOCATING THE ‘SECONDARY DSC’…

Here’s a list of the house cusps to look to as an extension of your DSC for each rising sign. These house cusps are symbolically linked to the sign on your DSC… showing what other traits you are attracted to in others, apart from just what the DSC alone shows.

Aries rising, Libra DSC… The 7th House has double importance.

Taurus rising, Scorpio DSC… Look to the 8th House.

Gemini rising, Sagittarius DSC… Look to the 9th House

Cancer rising, Capricorn DSC… Look to the 10th House

Leo rising, Aquarius DSC… Look to the 11th House

Virgo rising, Pisces DSC… Look to the 12th House

Libra rising, Aries DSC… Look to the 1st House

Scorpio rising, Taurus DSC… Look to the 2nd House

Sagittarius rising, Gemini DSC… Look to the 3rd House

Capricorn rising, Cancer DSC… Look to the 4th House

Aquarius rising, Leo DSC… Look to the 5th House

Pisces rising, Virgo DSC… Look to the 6th House

You can use the same method on any house. So if I were interested in 6th house stuff, and I had Taurus on the 6th house cusp, I could then also look at my 2nd house to find extended info on my 6th house. Every house in our chart has a secondary 'back-up' house that provides supplementary information on that house.


Hi Lotis White
Thank you for elaborating on the secondaries; such valuable info!

Yes, in my experience, only looking at primary houses isn't enough.

For example,
My love's chart fits all my primary relationship houses except for the 5th, and I fit all of his, except for the 8th.
But it didn't make sense to me because there is high high 5th house/8th house type of feelings/attraction.

But it didn't really show in the primary house synastry until I looked further into the secondaries and their rulers and planets.

My Secondary 5th house cusp: 9th house in Aries
My Secondary 5th house ruler: Mars in Cancer on cusp of 11th/12th houses.
My Secondary 5th house planets: none.

He fits the symbolism for that.
His Mars in 1st house symbolizes my secondary 5th house sign (Aries)
His Moon in 1st house symbolizes my secondary 5th house ruler's sign (Cancer)
His Jupiter conjuncts my Secondary 5th house ruler 3°
His Sun sextile my Secondary 5th house ruler 1°
His Asc sextile my Secondary 5th house ruler 0°


Now for his Secondary 8th:

His Secondary 8th house cusp: Asc in Virgo
His Secondary 8th house ruler: Vulcan in Virgo
His Secondary 8th house traditional ruler: Mercury in Libra in 2nd house
His Secondary 8th house planets: Sun (though in the 12th house, it exactly conjuncts his Asc), Moon, Mars

I fit the symbolism for his secondary 8th house.
My Sun conjuncts his Secondary 8th house cusp (Asc) 0°
My Sun conjunct his Secondary 8th house planet (Sun) 0°
My Mercury in his Secondary 8th house
My Moon square his Secondary 8th house traditional ruler (Mercury) 2°
My Mars widely square his Secondary 8th house traditional ruler (Mercury) 4°
My Leo Asc symbolizes his Sun in Secondary 8th house
My Moon in Cancer symbolizes his Moon in Secondary 8th house house
My Mars conjunct Moon symbolizes his Mars in Secondary 8th house


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posted September 29, 2013 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Hi Lotis White
Thank you for elaborating on the secondaries; such valuable info!

Yes, in my experience, only looking at primary houses isn't enough.

For example,
My love's chart fits all my primary relationship houses except for the 5th, and I fit all of his, except for the 8th.
But it didn't make sense to me because there is high high 5th house/8th house type of feelings/attraction going on between us. We feel for one another on all levels, and its mutual.

But it didn't really show in the primary house synastry until I looked further into the secondaries and their rulers and planets.

My Secondary 5th house cusp: 9th house in Aries
My Secondary 5th house ruler: Mars in Cancer on cusp of 11th/12th houses.
My Secondary 5th house planets: none.

He fits the symbolism for that.
His Mars in 1st house symbolizes my secondary 5th house sign (Aries)
His Moon in 1st house symbolizes my secondary 5th house ruler's sign (Cancer)
His Jupiter conjuncts my Secondary 5th house ruler 3°
His Sun sextile my Secondary 5th house ruler 1°
His Asc sextile my Secondary 5th house ruler 0°


Now for his Secondary 8th:

His Secondary 8th house cusp: Asc in Virgo
His Secondary 8th house ruler: Vulcan in Virgo
His Secondary 8th house traditional ruler: Mercury in Libra in 2nd house
His Secondary 8th house planets: Sun (though in the 12th house, it exactly conjuncts his Asc), Moon, Mars

I fit the symbolism for his secondary 8th house.
My Sun conjuncts his Secondary 8th house cusp (Asc) 0°
My Sun conjunct his Secondary 8th house planet (Sun) 0°
My Mercury in his Secondary 8th house
My Moon square his Secondary 8th house traditional ruler (Mercury) 2°
My Mars widely square his Secondary 8th house traditional ruler (Mercury) 4°
My Leo Asc symbolizes his Sun in Secondary 8th house
My Moon in Cancer symbolizes his Moon in Secondary 8th house house
My Mars conjunct Moon symbolizes his Mars in Secondary 8th house


~ Lavender


Awesome Lavendar,

I was especially impressed by your Sun conjunct his Asc/Secondary 8th (with Aries on the 8th house), and by his Moon and Mars being in the 1st house with your secondary 5th being Aries ruled by Mars in Cancer.

I've got a Gemini Dsc, with Jupiter in the 7th house, and Mercury in Sagittarius ruling the 7th house. My 3rd house is Aquarius ruled by Uranus Scorpio... And yes, in the past I used to wonder by I was attracted to people with planets in Aquarius and Scorpio, along with the Mercury/Jupiter energy of my primary 7th house (And my Aries 5th house, and my Cancer 8th house). Secondary houses have opened up a whole new world of understanding for me.

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posted September 29, 2013 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Awesome Lavendar,

I was especially impressed by your Sun conjunct his Asc/Secondary 8th (with Aries on the 8th house), and by his Moon and Mars being in the 1st house with your secondary 5th being Aries ruled by Mars in Cancer.

I've got a Gemini Dsc, with Jupiter in the 7th house, and Mercury in Sagittarius ruling the 7th house. My 3rd house is Aquarius ruled by Uranus Scorpio... And yes, in the past I used to wonder by I was attracted to people with planets in Aquarius and Scorpio, along with the Mercury/Jupiter energy of my primary 7th house (And my Aries 5th house, and my Cancer 8th house). Secondary houses have opened up a whole new world of understanding for me.


Yes, they're really fascinating aren't they!

How strong would you say trines and sextiles are though, from one person's natal to the other's attraction house rulers/planets?
Would you count them or are they too weak?

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posted September 29, 2013 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lavendar,

I think the notion that trines and sextiles are too weak to be really felt is a silly stereotype in astrology. I can certainly feel them!

I don't think soft aspects are 'weak' anymore then a think hard aspects are always 'bad'. They are just different styles of energy...

Soft aspects (as in trines and sextiles) are a smooth flow of energy that happens so naturally that they don't require that much effort to get the ball rolling. Events seem to slide by with ease. Soft aspects promote contentment with the current order of things because everything is working well (If it ain't broke don't fix it). Soft aspects are about being happy with the status quo, and agreement, harmony with others, and the joy of everything going 'right'. Soft aspect promote stability. A good amount of them is said to be good for lasting relationships, because we are usually pleased with what we have with soft aspects. Lets faces it, in some areas of life we want consistency, and to be able to trust that a certain level of agreement and support will always be there between us and a partner. However, it's also true that too many soft aspects are said to promote a stagnant feeling, as if we're always sticking to the same routines.

Hard aspects (as in squares and oppositions) are more dynamic then soft aspects because they are about two different forces confronting in some way. With hard aspects we are forced to exert effort, and make changes. There's no choice but to react and take action. Hard aspects can indicate challenges, and problems to be overcome, but they also provide excitement and activity. The impetus for change, and the feeling that we really need to 'work' on an issue with someone else comes from hard aspects. Hard aspects show where and how we're going to disagree with others, and be forced to compromise, and make changes within a relationship. The good thing about hard aspects is that they can inspire growth. The bad thing about hard aspects is that they require hard work, and too many of them can be exhausting.

Conjunctions are in a league of their own. They are like a fusion of energy busting forth together, and they're about having a spontaneous feeling of identification with another, like we've found a kindred spirit. They're intense and the vibe they have changes depending on the planets involved.

The general recommendation for synastry is a majority of soft aspects with a few hard aspects thrown in there for 'spice'. However, the proportions of soft aspects vs hard aspects needed in synastry for each person will very. Some people actually crave the struggle and invigoration of plenty of squares and opps, and few soft aspects. Whereas others enjoy the sweet harmony, and contentment of many soft aspects, with few hard aspects.

Soft aspects promote security, while hard aspects generate excitement. What each person wants and can handle depends on their natal chart and personal taste. A pretty good guide of what each person expects is shown by their own natal chart. A person with lots of hard apects in the natal chart would have a higher tolerance for hard aspects in synastry overall. A person with a lot of soft aspects in the natal chart would have less of a tolerance of hard aspects overall. What is considered 'good' synastry changes somewhat for each individual.

So in conclusion, soft aspects are not weak, they just promote consistency. But if someone were addicted to excitement, drama, and regular drastic changes in their lives, they might not think soft aspects provide enough oohhmph. If, on the other hand, you prefer 'drama-free' peace and security, and find endless amounts of issues to tackle exhausting, then the smooth flow of soft aspects are for you.

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I feel attracted to my 7th house ruler. It's Leo. My sun Is sagittarius conjunct my mars so not only am I attracted to Leo types I'm also attracted to Aries/mars types. Basically guys who are a mix of Leo/Aries/Sagittarius FIRE signs. Guys who are go getters, proud, loud, confident, humourous,, flashy....Everything that I'm not. Since the 7th is the sign & traits that you don't completely own....You get attracted to the 'opposite' types of you.

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posted September 30, 2013 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MillyX:
I feel attracted to my 7th house ruler. It's Leo. My sun Is sagittarius conjunct my mars so not only am I attracted to Leo types I'm also attracted to Aries/mars types. Basically guys who are a mix of Leo/Aries/Sagittarius FIRE signs. Guys who are go getters, proud, loud, confident, humourous,, flashy....Everything that I'm not. Since the 7th is the sign & traits that you don't completely own....You get attracted to the 'opposite' types of you.

It's interesting that you feel FIRE is your opposite when you have a Sag Sun/Mars. Do you have a lot of Earth/Water elsewhere in your chart that makes you feel like this? Or do you have some 'heavy' planets strongly aspecting in your chart like Saturn, Pluto, or even a dominating Moon. I'm curious as to what it is about your chart that makes you feel as if fire style guys are you opposite.

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posted September 30, 2013 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have another question.

Vulcan has been mentioned in this thread, and I'm wondering what you guys are refering to when you talk about your Vulcan placements. Do you mean the hypothetical planet?

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posted September 30, 2013 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Hi Lavendar,

I think the notion that trines and sextiles are too weak to be really felt is a silly stereotype in astrology. I can certainly feel them!

I don't think soft aspects are 'weak' anymore then a think hard aspects are always 'bad'. They are just different styles of energy...

Soft aspects (as in trines and sextiles) are a smooth flow of energy that happens so naturally that they don't require that much effort to get the ball rolling. Events seem to slide by with ease. Soft aspects promote contentment with the current order of things because everything is working well (If it ain't broke don't fix it). Soft aspects are about being happy with the status quo, and agreement, harmony with others, and the joy of everything going 'right'. Soft aspect promote stability. A good amount of them is said to be good for lasting relationships, because we are usually pleased with what we have with soft aspects. Lets faces it, in some areas of life we want consistency, and to be able to trust that a certain level of agreement and support will always be there between us and a partner. However, it's also true that too many soft aspects are said to promote a stagnant feeling, as if we're always sticking to the same routines.

Hard aspects (as in squares and oppositions) are more dynamic then soft aspects because they are about two different forces confronting in some way. With hard aspects we are forced to exert effort, and make changes. There's no choice but to react and take action. Hard aspects can indicate challenges, and problems to be overcome, but they also provide excitement and activity. The impetus for change, and the feeling that we really need to 'work' on an issue with someone else comes from hard aspects. Hard aspects show where and how we're going to disagree with others, and be forced to compromise, and make changes within a relationship. The good thing about hard aspects is that they can inspire growth. The bad thing about hard aspects is that they require hard work, and too many of them can be exhausting.

Conjunctions are in a league of their own. They are like a fusion of energy busting forth together, and they're about having a spontaneous feeling of identification with another, like we've found a kindred spirit. They're intense and the vibe they have changes depending on the planets involved.

The general recommendation for synastry is a majority of soft aspects with a few hard aspects thrown in there for 'spice'. However, the proportions of soft aspects vs hard aspects needed in synastry for each person will very. Some people actually crave the struggle and invigoration of plenty of squares and opps, and few soft aspects. Whereas others enjoy the sweet harmony, and contentment of many soft aspects, with few hard aspects.

Soft aspects promote security, while hard aspects generate excitement. What each person wants and can handle depends on their natal chart and personal taste. A pretty good guide of what each person expects is shown by their own natal chart. A person with lots of hard apects in the natal chart would have a higher tolerance for hard aspects in synastry overall. A person with a lot of soft aspects in the natal chart would have less of a tolerance of hard aspects overall. What is considered 'good' synastry changes somewhat for each individual.

So in conclusion, soft aspects are not weak, they just promote consistency. But if someone were addicted to excitement, drama, and regular drastic changes in their lives, they might not think soft aspects provide enough oohhmph. If, on the other hand, you prefer 'drama-free' peace and security, and find endless amounts of issues to tackle exhausting, then the smooth flow of soft aspects are for you.


Wow, yes!! Makes so much sense.
I definitely agree with all that you said, Lotis White

It all comes down to each individual and their preferences; what degree of "excitement/stimuli" and "smooth-sailing harmony" they like in their interactions with others.

As for my chart, its heavily consisted of water and earth and mostly trines & sextiles.
I have only one placement in air and thats my Venus in Libra. I guess I am pretty "harmony-oriented" you could say... most of the time lol.
I do like there to be some spice though, which is shown by my Mars conjunct Moon and Asc in Leo (the only fire placement in my chart)
My Venus is also squared by Uranus & Neptune
Jupiter squares my Asc/Desc

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posted September 30, 2013 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
I have another question.

Vulcan has been mentioned in this thread, and I'm wondering what you guys are refering to when you talk about your Vulcan placements. Do you mean the hypothetical planet?


Yes, we were talking about h55 Vulcan, the hypothetical planet.

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posted September 30, 2013 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MillyX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
It's interesting that you feel FIRE is your opposite when you have a Sag Sun/Mars. Do you have a lot of Earth/Water elsewhere in your chart that makes you feel like this? Or do you have some 'heavy' planets strongly aspecting in your chart like Saturn, Pluto, or even a dominating Moon. I'm curious as to what it is about your chart that makes you feel as if fire style guys are you opposite.

I have Saturn in my 1st house. I am very Saturnian in nature, cautious, reserved, shy, serious. That's why I'm attracted to guys who are outgoing, risk takers & etc.

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posted October 01, 2013 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MillyX:
I have Saturn in my 1st house. I am very Saturnian in nature, cautious, reserved, shy, serious. That's why I'm attracted to guys who are outgoing, risk takers & etc.


I don't have Saturn in the 1st but I'm shy, reserved and serious and I am attracted to women like me, not the opposite.
Out-going and risk takers are a turn off for me, honestly. I'm not attracted to Capricorn qualities though. The Virgo quality is what I'm attracted to. I'm a Virgo Sun.

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posted October 25, 2013 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Secondary houses... I could kiss you Lotis lol

I've been trying to come up with some reason why my fiance seemed so attracted to me so quickly, he seemed set on me before I had even made my mind up about him. His Sun, Merc, Venus, and Jupiter all fall in my 7H and all but his Jupiter are sextile my Venus. He hit me hard and fast, and it's fairly easy to see why. But I couldn't for the life of me figure out what made him fall head over heels for me, too.

My Sun, Merc, and Venus all fall in his 10H with Sun/Merc conjunct his MC. I know it's an angle and it makes you notice people but it just didn't seem like a romantic connection. Until I read about secondary houses His DSC is Capricorn.

I just wonder how much people feel their secondary houses vs secondary house rulers?

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I don't have Saturn in the 1st but I'm shy, reserved and serious and I am attracted to women like me, not the opposite.
Out-going and risk takers are a turn off for me, honestly. I'm not attracted to Capricorn qualities though. The Virgo quality is what I'm attracted to. I'm a Virgo Sun.

Same here, kinda sorta.
I like the familiarity, feels I could trust them more and be myself around them.

Whoever said familiarity breeds contempt wasn't very comfortable with their own selves I guess

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