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Topic: Why is it the people whose planets fall in my 12th, always end up devastating me??
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jjj
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posted October 14, 2013 09:59 AM
  
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Originally posted by ash20:
I understand what you mean but im the one thats elusive. With me and this guy his mars is square my
Neptune and uranus and i can tell i frustrate him alot and i easliy upset him. So i think bc your mars is opposing his neptune thats probably why you feel he is avoiding you.
Why do you act elusively with him? You dont fancy him...?
I corrected my post, his Neptune is conjunct my Mars by 3 degree and my Neptune opposes his Mars, but only by 8 degree (wide). And his Mars is in my 12th (so I should appear neptunian to him). This behaviour is BAD. He should stop teasing, but Im addicted to it. Edited:
Im starting to think that the 12th house person may "neptunize" the planet person in the area the planet represents. It can mean a spiritual connection or delusion, lies (possibly both) in the area connected to the planet. This man with Mars in my 12th has invented his version about our connection - he a good husband and provider, and me a bad tempting femme fatale - that he has probably shared with a friend and he has nearly convinced himself that this is the truth - whilst the truth is that he simply fell for me. He is trying to fight the attraction, hiding in this cloud.
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ash20
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posted October 14, 2013 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by elixir:
I have so many bad stories of peoples planets in my 12th. I can think of 5 people off the top of my head who hurt me and had planets in my 12th. Especially pisces suns...it just so happens my 12th is in aqua and pisces.
For the most part people with planets in my 12th have always talked about me behind my back to someone else. If it was a bf and we had an argument or he cheated he would always go back to his friends and make me out to be the bad guy. With another guy he made me seem like the crazy person to his friends, when he was the one doing crazy sh*t. Lol
Maybe they distort your image to other people when their planets fall in your 12th.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted October 14, 2013 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by ash20:
For the most part people with planets in my 12th have always talked about me behind my back to someone else. If it was a bf and we had an argument or he cheated he would always go back to his friends and make me out to be the bad guy. With another guy he made me seem like the crazy person to his friends, when he was the one doing crazy sh*t. Lol
Maybe they distort your image to other people when their planets fall in your 12th.
The main person who has planets all in my twelfth, many, in fact, is my mother. She has a huge Virgo pile-up with a little bit of Libra thrown in and all of it is in my twelfth house. I have to agree about the talking behind your back part and shuffling me out of the way just so they can talk about me. My mother has always done this and I have never been comfortable with it. I would rather her just say it with me in the room instead of insisting I go outside just so I won't hear yet the person she is talking to gets to learn everything and then my mom tries to act like secrets are a destructive thing. When someone asks her something personal she snaps it's none of their business. This is the kind of twelfth house stuff that can drive someone batty. IP: Logged |
ash20
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posted October 14, 2013 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by jjj:
Why do you act elusively with him? You dont fancy him?
I corrected my post, his Neptune is conjunct my Mars by 3 degree and my Neptune opposes his Mars, but only by 8 degree (wide). And his Mars is in my 12th (so I should appear neptunian to him).This behaviour is BAD. He should stop teasing, but Im addicted to it.
I actually like him alot but sometimes he wants me to put my feelings for him into words ,which i have a hard time doing. So Its not that i purposely act elusive its more so just how he percieves me. He withdraws from me when he feels I've hurt him, kinda in a passive aggressive way. He won't tell me what I've done so i have to play mind reader lol. Maybe thats how his mars in my 12th plays out.
Does your guy act passive aggressive towards you?
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jjj
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posted October 14, 2013 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by ash20:
I actually like him alot but sometimes he wants me to put my feelings for him into words ,which i have a hard time doing. So Its not that i purposely act elusive its more so just how he percieves me. He withdraws from me when he feels I've hurt him, kinda in a passive aggressive way. He won't tell me what I've done so i have to play mind reader lol. Maybe thats how his mars in my 12th plays out.
Does your guy act passive aggressive towards you?
Thanks for clarifying. I added to my last post. In our case it s me, the 12th house person, who asked him (Mars) to verbalize what is going on. And then he denied everything in words. Cant get a proper word out of his mouth. But his behaviour shows how attracted he is... he continues touching me and seeking my presence. Yes, passive-agressive stuff.
This connection reminds me of mother/child connection (his Neptune conjuncts my moon as well)... I want to protect him as a child and at the same time I desire him... sounds like Freud uhhhh. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted October 14, 2013 10:55 AM
And to add more, basically, what the twelfth house does, it causes everything to seem like BS. If you say secrets are destructive then go out of your way to keep them, it just ruins your credibility, people think you are full of **** and they don't take you seriously. So, the twelfth house works to undermine your relationships with this element of duplicity. For example, your bf tells you he loves you, cannot spend a moment away from you. This makes you feel loved, happy, secure in your relationship with him. Next thing he tells you he's just joined the army and will be away to basic training for weeks, then it's off to God-only-knows-where while just a second earlier he told you he loved you so much he cannot spend a moment away. This is very typical of twelfth house stuff. I have accepted it as part of life and have a really difficult time believing anyone or taking them seriously. Part of me having a stellium in the twelfth is not believing most of what people say. IP: Logged |
Zander916
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posted October 14, 2013 11:32 AM
This isn't overlay stuff...
but just 12th house stuff. Almost every time when a romantic relationship ends I get made out to be the "bad guy" also. Usually it's that I'm just "crazy". One brought her brother over with her to gather her things. No problem but I knew what it was for. He didn't even help her but just stood there over her watching. Like a protector. Just another acting job of pretending that I'm crazy. I'm like, "Really? 6 years and you don't know me well enough to realize I'm non-threatening?"
What I find humorous about it when they make me out to be crazy. A while later (one year or thereabout) they come back into my life.
"yeeaaaaah. I was so scary and crazy right? That's why you're back?"
Friends sure, but I don't do seconds.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted October 14, 2013 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by Zander916:
This isn't overlay stuff...
but just 12th house stuff. Almost every time when a romantic relationship ends I get made out to be the "bad guy" also. Usually it's that I'm just "crazy". One brought her brother over with her to gather her things. No problem but I knew what it was for. He didn't even help her but just stood there over her watching. Like a protector. Just another acting job of pretending that I'm crazy. I'm like, "Really? 6 years and you don't know me well enough to realize I'm non-threatening?"
What I find humorous about it when they make me out to be crazy. A while later (one year or thereabout) they come back into my life.
"yeeaaaaah. I was so scary and crazy right? That's why you're back?"
Friends sure, but I don't do seconds.
LOL
I know, twelfth house stuff can be rough on the emotions and the mind, both. Not to mention the spirit. These relationships aren't a cake walk and having these placements isn't, either! People like to make it out all spiritual and soul-matish but there's a rotten underbelly to house twelve.
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IndigoDirae
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posted October 14, 2013 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
And another problem is feelings come and go with great frequency in house twelve and they can be intense and short lived.
That's so true! But it's not a mystery as to why. THEY do something, and then YOU do something, and - no wonder the feelings 'come and go'. It's not like they DON'T have a cause. If we could just improve communication, increase transparency ... we COULD beat this 12H stuff, honestly.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted October 14, 2013 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
That's so true! But it's not a mystery as to why. THEY do something, and then YOU do something, and - no wonder the feelings 'come and go'. It's not like they DON'T have a cause.If we could just improve communication, increase transparency ... we COULD beat this 12H stuff, honestly.
Sometimes with me they don't have a cause other than me having a bad feeling and it's not because of something they did. It's just how I am.
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IndigoDirae
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posted October 14, 2013 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
And to add more, basically, what the twelfth house does, it causes everything to seem like BS. If you say secrets are destructive then go out of your way to keep them, it just ruins your credibility, people think you are full of **** and they don't take you seriously. So, the twelfth house works to undermine your relationships with this element of duplicity. For example, your bf tells you he loves you, cannot spend a moment away from you. This makes you feel loved, happy, secure in your relationship with him. Next thing he tells you he's just joined the army and will be away to basic training for weeks, then it's off to God-only-knows-where while just a second earlier he told you he loved you so much he cannot spend a moment away. This is very typical of twelfth house stuff. I have accepted it as part of life and have a really difficult time believing anyone or taking them seriously. Part of me having a stellium in the twelfth is not believing most of what people say.
Wow. VERY well said. I agree entirely. Man, I really want to share a snippet of that scene now. It's just ... sort of perfectly representative of all of it. And I've experienced it myself. Perfect description. It [B]undermines[B]. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted October 14, 2013 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Wow. VERY well said. I agree entirely. Man, I really want to share a snippet of that scene now. It's just ... sort of perfectly representative of all of it. And I've experienced it myself.Perfect description. It [B]undermines[B].
Why thank you! It's the story of my life! I just accept it. I really cannot take most people seriously because of it for real. Twelfth house effect.
Don't worry, I am at peace with the idea, not gonna freak out about it lol. I would love to read or watch that scene! Is it written or a video or both? Can you copy or post them?
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ash20
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posted October 14, 2013 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by Zander916:
This isn't overlay stuff...
but just 12th house stuff. Almost every time when a romantic relationship ends I get made out to be the "bad guy" also. Usually it's that I'm just "crazy". One brought her brother over with her to gather her things. No problem but I knew what it was for. He didn't even help her but just stood there over her watching. Like a protector. Just another acting job of pretending that I'm crazy. I'm like, "Really? 6 years and you don't know me well enough to realize I'm non-threatening?"
What I find humorous about it when they make me out to be crazy. A while later (one year or thereabout) they come back into my life.
"yeeaaaaah. I was so scary and crazy right? That's why you're back?"
Friends sure, but I don't do seconds.
LOL
Mines came back into my life also but when we fell out again he had the nerve to say he forgot how crazy i was. WELL WHY DO YOU COME BACK?
Lol bc you didnt forget! And You know im not what you make me out to be. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted October 22, 2020 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
I like 12th house relationships, could it be due to having Venus in Pisces?
As a Venus in Pisces, I can say yes this is why because I'm the same. IP: Logged |
Randall
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