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Topic: Easily Influenced / Weak Sense of Identity
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moonlightx Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 08, 2013 01:59 AM
Does anyone else relate to this?I feel like I have a weak sense of identity despite the fact that I find the notion of a solid identity important. What I mean by that is, sometimes it's hard for me to know what I really like, what I'm really into. I take on other people's traits and even their interests easily, then later on, I realize what I've done and try to figure out "Do I like that or am I just latching onto what they like?" I've even taken on other people's mannerisms at times. It's very frustrating because it feels like I have no idea who I am, which is partly why I got into astrology in the first place. IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 4005 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted November 08, 2013 02:22 AM
Mutable signs IP: Logged |
moonlightx Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 08, 2013 02:40 AM
Hmm...I have Moon in Gemini and Mars in Sagittarius. Also MC in Pisces but I don't know if that counts for anything.IP: Logged |
PeterPan Knowflake Posts: 373 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted November 08, 2013 03:24 AM
Everyone does this to a certain degree, some more than others. I Think mutable signs are most prone to this tough.IP: Logged |
bethbabe Knowflake Posts: 485 From: CA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted November 08, 2013 03:43 AM
hello,sorry but when you guys say "mutable signs," what particular signs are you speaking of? personal signs or generational signs like saturn and stuff? IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 4005 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted November 08, 2013 03:46 AM
I'm triple fixed. Sun/Moon/ASC (As well as Mercury, MC and Pluto) I'm not easily swayed, even when I probably should be. I'm the opposite side of the spectrum and that brings problems, too. In case you aren't familiar - If you go to the a Pullen Astrolog section in astro.com you can find what percentage each modality in your chart is. You can also see the strengths of all your planets and the signs. This might give you some understanding. Astro.com>Free horoscopes>horoscope drawings and calculation>extended chart selection In the methods it automatically goes to circular charts - change to pullen astrolog. In the drop-down box select the last option "simple chart delineation by Walter pullen" and voila! You will have to do some scrolling though. IP: Logged |
AscTaurus Knowflake Posts: 1029 From: Pretoria, Gauteng,South Africa Registered: May 2009
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posted November 08, 2013 07:59 AM
Does anyone else relate to this? I feel like I have a weak sense of identity despite the fact that I find the notion of a solid identity important.What I mean by that is, sometimes it's hard for me to know what I really like, what I'm really into. I take on other people's traits and even their interests easily, then later on, I realize what I've done and try to figure out "Do I like that or am I just latching onto what they like?" I've even taken on other people's mannerisms at times. It's very frustrating because it feels like I have no idea who I am, which is partly why I got into astrology in the first place. Hmmm, what is up with your ascendant? If the Ascendant is in Pisces or is conjunct Neptune(which is potent), that could explain this. If the Ascendant ruler is in the 12th house. This could also be it. If the MC is close to Neptune or is in Pisces, it could also cause great confusion with regards to direction and identity. If the ruler of the 10th house is in the 12th house- this could also be it. Look/contrast and compare. Also included is Sun in Pisces/Sun in 12th or Sun aspecting Neptune. Ruler of the Sun is found in 12th house or aspected by Neptune with as square/ conjunction/ opposition. Have fun exploring IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 8448 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 08, 2013 12:01 PM
LIbra?IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 8448 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 08, 2013 12:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by PeterPan: Everyone does this to a certain degree, some more than others. I Think mutable signs are most prone to this tough.
Did this in part for you: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum34/HTML/001499.html IP: Logged |
orocairion Knowflake Posts: 232 From: Registered: May 2013
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posted November 08, 2013 12:35 PM
I'm as mutable as they come(Sag stellium, Pisces Asc+Neptune conj. Sun) but I don't think one could be called easily influenced. I know what I like, enjoy and who I am but I have no problem adapting myself and incorporating other things as my own if I find them to be fulfulling or enjoyable.As long as you really enjoy it whatever it might be, doesn't matter where you got it from, in my opinion. IP: Logged |
Kerosene unregistered
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posted November 08, 2013 12:41 PM
I'm very mutable. The fact I can do all those things is why I am have so many friends and acquaintances. I can relate to anyone. I've had people tell me they have never met anyone so similar to themselves, it's amazing how people react from mirroring their gestures. It's kinda fun too.IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 8615 From: Dublin, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2013 12:51 PM
Moonlightx,I've met quite a number of people like that, but was never that myself. I have a lot of Mutable energy with Gemini Rising, Virgo Moon, and three planets in Sagittarius. In a way, it seems to be about empathy. You overly relate to people taking on their attributes and then wondering what happened. I have only done that in relationships with Cancers. I would subvert parts of my personality, so that their personality could shine through. I'm going to guess that perhaps a water element is at play. Otherwise, it just seems as if you're truly fascinated by people to the point of copying them. I don't think this will be a permanent thing for you. I think you will discover your strengths over time, and start to assert yourself. Another angle is that you're seeking acceptance, and by mirroring people you hope they like you more. You see that kind of behavior a lot in male white artists that do music in a black genre. Macklemore talking to Stephen Colbert doesn't use much slang at all, but Macklemore talking to bongoboy (whoever that is) uses a lot of slang. Same is true for Eminem or JT. Just trying to relate to the audience effectively, I think. Thinking about it, my wife does claim that I'm different in a couple situations. She says my face changes when I'm with my family. She says I seem younger. Also, she enjoyed when I would do improv, because I'd talk louder afterwards, so I guess I do change a little based upon my audience, too. IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 784 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 08, 2013 12:58 PM
I have exactly this same problem and I know it's why I got into astrology! My chart is highly mutable. Apparently I'm a 7 when 6 is already highly mutable. http://astrolibrary.org/elements/ Also, I have my sun ruler, Jupiter, conjunct Neptune and my sun conjunct Neptune as listed above. And I think there are few others lurking in my chart related to basically going along with what my partner wants instead of asserting what I want, which in a way isn't so much of a problem as I don't know what I want.... OMG, it's like circle! :-o LOL. IP: Logged |
moonlightx Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 08, 2013 01:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by AscTaurus: [b]Does anyone else relate to this? I feel like I have a weak sense of identity despite the fact that I find the notion of a solid identity important.What I mean by that is, sometimes it's hard for me to know what I really like, what I'm really into. I take on other people's traits and even their interests easily, then later on, I realize what I've done and try to figure out "Do I like that or am I just latching onto what they like?" I've even taken on other people's mannerisms at times. It's very frustrating because it feels like I have no idea who I am, which is partly why I got into astrology in the first place. Hmmm, what is up with your ascendant? If the Ascendant is in Pisces or is conjunct Neptune(which is potent), that could explain this. If the Ascendant ruler is in the 12th house. This could also be it. If the MC is close to Neptune or is in Pisces, it could also cause great confusion with regards to direction and identity. If the ruler of the 10th house is in the 12th house- this could also be it. Look/contrast and compare. Also included is Sun in Pisces/Sun in 12th or Sun aspecting Neptune. Ruler of the Sun is found in 12th house or aspected by Neptune with as square/ conjunction/ opposition. Have fun exploring[/B]
My ASC is Cancer opposite Neptune. MC is Pisces. Sun is in Capricorn conjunct Neptune. Saturn is conjunct Neptune. I never really escape Neptune despite my Saturnine influences. It anchors me after the fact that I've melded with someone else. IP: Logged |
moonlightx Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 08, 2013 01:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ellynlvx: LIbra?
No Libra in my chart but I do have a 7th house stellium. IP: Logged |
moonlightx Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 08, 2013 01:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by orocairion: I'm as mutable as they come(Sag stellium, Pisces Asc+Neptune conj. Sun) but I don't think one could be called easily influenced. I know what I like, enjoy and who I am but I have no problem adapting myself and incorporating other things as my own if I find them to be fulfulling or enjoyable.As long as you really enjoy it whatever it might be, doesn't matter where you got it from, in my opinion.
That would be my ideal. I do enjoy most of these things (ex: hobbies), but sometimes it's troubling, like when I take on someone's negative mood/feelings. IP: Logged |
moonlightx Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 08, 2013 01:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: I'm very mutable. The fact I can do all those things is why I am have so many friends and acquaintances. I can relate to anyone. I've had people tell me they have never met anyone so similar to themselves, it's amazing how people react from mirroring their gestures. It's kinda fun too.
It's a gift when you use it well and knowingly. I used to mimic my teacher's writing/speech habits when writing essays for school and they always ended up loving it. I'm pretty adaptable too (even though I can also be stubborn when it comes to certain things.) I would just prefer to adapt naturally as opposed to subconsciously. IP: Logged |
moonlightx Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 08, 2013 02:24 PM
Will respond to the rest of you later. I have to get going now.IP: Logged |
orocairion Knowflake Posts: 232 From: Registered: May 2013
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posted November 08, 2013 02:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by moonlightx: That would be my ideal. I do enjoy most of these things (ex: hobbies), but sometimes it's troubling, like when I take on someone's negative mood/feelings.
That comes with a prominent Neptune. Not much can't be done about that other than to be aware it is their feelings and not your own.
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birdsong Knowflake Posts: 281 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 08, 2013 02:36 PM
I'm easily moved, influenced and probably led too lol.I have Sun, Venus, NN, Pallas, MC in Pisces Sun Sextile Neptune Moon Conjunct Neptune IP: Logged |
ScorpioMoon Knowflake Posts: 219 From: Atlanta. Georgia, United States Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 08, 2013 05:45 PM
That's exactly how I am. I don't know myself as well as I think I do, i find it hard to explain why I like a particular hobby, movie, or what have you, sometimes I find myself mimicking another person's accent, or habit without meaning to, the list goes on.Pisces ASC Sun opposite Neptune/Uranus Mercury Opposite Neptune/Saturn/Uranus Neptune in the 10th house Neptune Conjunct Saturn IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 7311 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 08, 2013 05:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by moonlightx: Does anyone else relate to this?I feel like I have a weak sense of identity despite the fact that I find the notion of a solid identity important. What I mean by that is, sometimes it's hard for me to know what I really like, what I'm really into. I take on other people's traits and even their interests easily, then later on, I realize what I've done and try to figure out "Do I like that or am I just latching onto what they like?" I've even taken on other people's mannerisms at times. It's very frustrating because it feels like I have no idea who I am, which is partly why I got into astrology in the first place.
I DO I DO! Neptune. Neptune. Neptune. Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Saturn and Pluto all aspecting Neptune. I know what I like when no one is around but if I meet a new person I start taking on their personality and moods… super annoying. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 5186 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 08, 2013 06:20 PM
Despite having 5 planets in mutable signs, my sense of identity is strong, atleast at present. I don’t allow myself to be influenced by others, I hate it. My NN is in 1st house so I need to develop a solid sense of identity in this lifetime. The ruler of my 1st house is in 1st house, this one also helps.IP: Logged |
FireMoon Knowflake Posts: 1806 From: Minnesota Registered: Mar 2012
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posted November 08, 2013 07:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by moonlightx: My ASC is Cancer opposite Neptune. MC is Pisces. Sun is in Capricorn conjunct Neptune. Saturn is conjunct Neptune. I never really escape Neptune despite my Saturnine influences. It anchors me after the fact that I've melded with someone else.
Hey I'm also Cancer ASC opposite Neptune with sun in Cap conjunct Neptune and Saturn. My MC is Pisces too. I can definitely relate... Although I'm getting to a point where I'm realllly annoyed with always being content to just blend in and not really asserting myself so I'm hoping this can change lol What's your moon sign and how is it aspected? Also is your sun in your 7th house? IP: Logged |
Plutonic Capricorn Knowflake Posts: 340 From: Quirky Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 08, 2013 07:20 PM
pisces moon 12th housers and neptunians, basically anyone without faith in God.IP: Logged |