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LovelyAries86
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posted November 19, 2013 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I guess I have this placement and I'm just now discovering it?

NEITHER astro.com or cafeastrology.com conclude that I have this aspect! In fact, they both put my Mercury as "unaspected". After coming across a third site, it shows that I have Mercury *square* Uranus. So what do I make of the site differences?? All (3) sites list most of my other aspects exactly the same & are in Placidus.

Do you have this aspect?

What are your experiences w/ people who share it?

Best quality?

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posted November 19, 2013 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should look at the orb of the aspect.
Some sites allow a wider orb. For Mercury personally, I would use an 8° orb maaaax. That's really on the wide side, though. Generally it's something like 6° (for squares).

Here's a thread you may find helpful: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/217134.html

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posted November 19, 2013 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
You should look at the orb of the aspect.
Some sites allow a wider orb. For Mercury personally, I would use an 8° orb maaaax. That's really on the wide side, though. Generally it's something like 6° (for squares).

Here's a thread you may find helpful: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/217134.html


Ah ok thanks! I really should pay more attention to orbs/degrees. I'll definitely look at the thread you posted also.

Do you have any feedback on this aspect Doux?

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posted November 19, 2013 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome, Lovely Aries.

I've noticed that it usually makes people quite blunt and not always tactful.
They can be a bit impulsive in their speech and jump to conclusions quickly. Speak before thinking. Can easily offend people or shock people. Biting communication.
Usually honest and quite direct, have some out of the box interests and ideas (like Sci-fi, fantasy, weird beliefs or a general interest in esoterism and the occult).
Interest in astrology or other "sciences" (that may or may not be "real" science). Creative ideas, vivid imagination, and racing thoughts. Can be tense, quite nervous and easily stressed out.

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posted November 19, 2013 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is the degree of your Mercury? I assume you have Uranus in Capricorn? Depends on the degrees.

I have Libra Mercury at 28 square Capricorn Uranus at 23. Five degrees, but it's still among my favourite natal aspects!

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I've noticed that it usually makes people quite blunt and not always tactful.
They can be a bit impulsive in their speech and jump to conclusions quickly. Speak before thinking. Can easily offend people or shock people. Biting communication.
Usually honest and quite direct, have some out of the box interests and ideas (like Sci-fi, fantasy, weird beliefs or a general interest in esoterism and the occult).
Interest in astrology or other "sciences" (that may or may not be "real" science). Creative ideas, vivid imagination, and racing thoughts. Can be tense, quite nervous and easily stressed out.

The only thing that doesn't apply to me from this is the tense, nervous, and easily stressed out bits. Very good, Doux Reve!

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posted November 19, 2013 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have much tact & I always try to be respectful of other people's feelings. I *loathe* rudeness!!

But then again, my Mercury is in Pisces. And sits in the 6th House. So the Uranus aspect adds the "electricity" to my communication style, I guess. So I think I'm pretty well rounded?!

I looked up some Famous People w/ this aspect:
JFK
Che Guevara
Mother Theresa
Elvis Presley
Michael Jackson
George Clooney
Johnny Depp


I'll read & respond to all the replies more in-depth when I get home!

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posted November 19, 2013 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
The only thing that doesn't apply to me from this is the tense, nervous, and easily stressed out bits. Very good, Doux Reve!

Yeah, you're way too laid-back for that kinda thing.
Thank you, sir!

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posted November 19, 2013 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libracorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What are your experiences w/ people who share it?

Best quality? [/B]


I have a classmate with this aspect, and he has it EXACT as far as the orbs are concerned. I find him to be quite annoying in his speech sometimes, other classmates agree as well. I realize that he thinks he knows everything (he does) but he just thinks he's smarter than everyone in the class and people get a bad vibe from how he expresses himself in communicating.

In addition, he has a lot of questions, he questions EVERYTHING, he would make a great journalist in my opinion.

I would say that anyone who has their Mercury aspecting their Uranus would make them interested in subjects that aren't normal (ie:astrology). It's also a genius aspect as well! You find a bundle of smart people with Mercury aspecting their Uranus. So I say that's where the BEST quality of the aspect is.

In addition, it also depends on what other factors are in your chart, some aspects can weigh out others.


I have the trine...

But yeah :-)


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posted November 19, 2013 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
What is the degree of your Mercury? I assume you have Uranus in Capricorn? Depends on the degrees.


My Mercury is at 28 degrees in Pisces.

My Uranus is in Sagittarius.

So do you believe I really have the Mercury/Uranus aspect then?

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posted November 19, 2013 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
My Mercury is at 28 degrees in Pisces.

My Uranus is in Sagittarius.

So do you believe I really have the Mercury/Uranus aspect then?


What degree of Sag?

My Merc is at 26 Pisces 9H and my Uranus is at 22 Sag 5H. I'm glad I have this square. I think it gives me the extra "oomph" that a lot of Pisces Merc people lack.

Abstract thinking is a biggy with this aspect. You might arrive at the same answer as someone else, but you can probably come up with 10 different ways to get that answer
People with this aspect in their natal chart are said to be of above average IQ on a fairly regular basis. I wish I could remember far enough back to remember the dates of some of my classmates' birthdays in elementary school. I was in an advanced program for schooling that you had to be invited into to be a part of. I wonder how many of my classmates shared this square.

It's a little harder for me to put my finger on JUST my Merc/Uranus square though because I have Mars right there, too at 23 Sag.

I don't think this is a bad square to have, ESPECIALLY for a Pisces Mercury.

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posted November 19, 2013 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
You're welcome, Lovely Aries.

I've noticed that it usually makes people quite blunt and not always tactful.
They can be a bit impulsive in their speech and jump to conclusions quickly. Speak before thinking. Can easily offend people or shock people. Biting communication.
Usually honest and quite direct, have some out of the box interests and ideas (like Sci-fi, fantasy, weird beliefs or a general interest in esoterism and the occult).
Interest in astrology or other "sciences" (that may or may not be "real" science). Creative ideas, vivid imagination, and racing thoughts. Can be tense, quite nervous and easily stressed out.


Thanks for your reply Doux!

As I stated before, I try my best to be tactful. I only become a b*tch once I feel that you have become rude or classless yourself.

I'm very perceptive & intuitive, yes. But rarely do I jump to conclusions without digging beneath the surface (1st House Pluto)first. So that does not apply to me either.

I do speak in an honest & direct fashion, that is true. But I do so with diplomacy & understanding (Libra ASC) most of the time.

I do have random thoughts fly into my brain sometimes but they're usually amusing LOL. I can go *anywhere* with my conversation at any given time. So you're correct that my imagination is vivid!

Can be shocking when I want to be. Other times I'm rather conservative. Depends.


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Originally posted by Libracorn:
I realize that he thinks he knows everything (he does) but he just thinks he's smarter than everyone in the class and people get a bad vibe from how he expresses himself in communicating.


It's also a genius aspect as well! You find a bundle of smart people with Mercury aspecting their Uranus. So I say that's where the BEST quality of the aspect is.



Funny you should mention know-it-alls. Some people who don't know me well assume that I'm snobby or "bougie" at first and it cracks me up. But once they've spoken with me one-on-one, they realize that I can get along with ALL KINDS of personalities. I enjoy interacting with people from all types of backgrounds. Truly do!

If you are shallow & immature...*that* is when I may come off as "superior". I don't think I'm better than you...I just think you're stupid - by choice. And I don't do well with stupid.

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posted November 19, 2013 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LionFish:
What degree of Sag?

My Merc is at 26 Pisces 9H and my Uranus is at 22 Sag 5H. I'm glad I have this square. I think it gives me the extra "oomph" that a lot of Pisces Merc people lack.

Abstract thinking is a biggy with this aspect. You might arrive at the same answer as someone else, but you can probably come up with 10 different ways to get that answer
People with this aspect in their natal chart are said to be of above average IQ on a fairly regular basis.

I don't think this is a bad square to have, ESPECIALLY for a Pisces Mercury.


My Uranus is at 22 degrees, like yours. And in the 3rd House.

I agree very much with your description, LionFish. I definitely think this is a *plus* for Pisces-Mercury!!

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posted November 19, 2013 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LovelyAries86: So do you believe I really have the Mercury/Uranus aspect then?

So your Uranus is at 22 Sagittarius? Yeah it's wide (the max orb I would go) but still there! Mutable signs though hm. Pisces and Sagittarius, separating square...

I'd say you're pretty idealistic and have strong moral principles, but this can make you a bit haughty or easily hurt because when things go wrong, you feel compelled to make it right again and you really know deep down things shouldn't be like that! You are probably of average intelligence given the signs - you may have some trouble with numbers and sciences, but are drawn more to abstract and expressive things like arts. You're definitely a little more naive or gullible than you might want to admit or maybe things go over your head sometimes but you're also compassionate and good minded, which are strong points for you!!

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posted November 19, 2013 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
So your Uranus is at 22 Sagittarius? Yeah it's wide (the max orb I would go) but still there! Mutable signs though hm. Pisces and Sagittarius, separating square...

I'd say you're pretty idealistic and have strong moral principles, but this can make you a bit haughty or easily hurt because when things go wrong, you feel compelled to make it right again and you really know deep down things shouldn't be like that! You are probably of average intelligence given the signs - you may have some trouble with numbers and sciences, but are drawn more to abstract and expressive things like arts. You're definitely a little more naive or gullible than you might want to admit or maybe things go over your head sometimes but you're also compassionate and good minded, which are strong points for you!!


So I have a loose square then? So would I have traits similar to a sextile or something?

I definitely have strong morals. I do love the Arts and I'm not a big fan of Math! My Cancer Moon is somewhat sensitive, so I never try to hurt people on purpose (unless they've wronged me or my loved one). I am compassionate and I root for the underdog.

However, I am very intelligent and well-spoken. So "average" would not describe me! I'm also not gullible. I'm fair-minded so I do usually give people the Benefit Of The Doubt -- but I'll *revoke* that same benefit if you start showing me otherwise. I'll cut you off FAST if I start smelling bullsh*t!!

Thanks for your feedback SE.

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posted November 20, 2013 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Libra Mercury in the 3rd House Square Capricorn Uranus in the 6th House with a 8 degree orb and I can definitely feel it. Without a doubt.

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posted November 20, 2013 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I have a Libra Mercury in the 3rd House Square Capricorn Uranus in the 6th House with a 8 degree orb and I can definitely feel it. Without a doubt.

Feel it in what ways?

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posted November 20, 2013 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Feel it in what ways?


I have very different, eccentric ideas, thoughts and ways of doing things than others. I usually have a different perspective and people will be shocked by what I say. (I know that sounds so stereotypical of this aspect, but it really is the truth) What I say is almost always controversial somehow. I sometimes tend to talk and say something before I put enough thought in it. I rush to say it. I can easily know what someone is going to say before they get all the words out, so that's where I'm quick to say something as well.
I can also read super fast.
I have quick reflexes too, if that has something to do with Mercury/Uranus. (or maybe my 3rd House Mars?)
I am also restless and get bored sooooooooo easily.
(I have a Gemini Moon, but I get bored too quick for it to just be that)
I also really like fast-pace things as well and have a lot of energy that no matter what I do, can never release it (can't physically or mentally, lol)
I'm addicted to listening to music because one, I like it, and two, because I like my mind constantly energized/stimulated. I need something constantly going on in my head. I NEED either music, or thinking. Or usually both. (so basically I need music all day long just to sustain my mind)
It also takes me forever to go to sleep because my mind is constantly at work thinking. So most of the time I just wait and stay up all night until I either get tired or on school nights stay up much later than I'm supposed to and get about 4 - 5 hours of sleep a day.
I even get excited just thinking about how complex and beautiful the Universe is. (a little too excited. I even tear up out of pure asceticism sometimes, I swear, lol)

Who knows if most of this is because of this aspect + my Mercurian energy or because of my dominant Mercurian influence, lol. (Mercury is one of my dominant planets)

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posted November 20, 2013 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I rush to say it. I can easily know what someone is going to say before they get all the words out, so that's where I'm quick to say something as well.

I can relate to this.

I often intuit what others feel/think and I'll sometimes blurt it out. Never in a disrespectful way though - usually done in a smooth or amusing fashion!

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posted November 20, 2013 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
I can relate to this.

I often intuit what others feel/think and I'll sometimes blurt it out. Never in a disrespectful way though - usually done in a smooth or amusing fashion!


Yeah, same here. It isn't meant to be disrespectful or anything, it's just like a natural instinct for me or something. Oh and I read that it's supposed to make you blunt. Well I can be, but my Libra influence "tries" to stop me, lol.

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posted November 20, 2013 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah, same here. It isn't meant to be disrespectful or anything, it's just like a natural instinct for me or something. Oh and I read that it's supposed to make you blunt. Well I can be, but my Libra influence "tries" to stop me, lol.

Good ol' Libra. She just isn't gonna have that tacky behavior go on for too long.

I'm Libra ASC so I get it.

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posted November 20, 2013 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Good ol' Libra. She just isn't gonna have that tacky behavior go on for too long.

I'm Libra ASC so I get it.


Haha
And that's cool
Where's your depositor; Venus placed? How does that alter your Libra Ascendant?

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posted November 20, 2013 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Haha
And that's cool
Where's your depositor; Venus placed? How does that alter your Libra Ascendant?

Venus in the 8th House. In Taurus.

Venus is trine Mars.

Venus trine Midhaven too.

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posted November 20, 2013 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Venus in the 8th House. In Taurus.

Venus is trine Mars.

Venus trine Midhaven too.


Oh cool, you have it in domicile.
Do you feel like it manifests more Libran or Taurean?
Are you attracrted to Aries or Mars types since it trines Mars?

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posted November 20, 2013 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Oh cool, you have it in domicile.
Do you feel like it manifests more Libran or Taurean?
Are you attracrted to Aries or Mars types since it trines Mars?

I definitely feel more Taurean than Libran. I'm the (3) S's: Sensual, solid & stubborn! I have standards and they must be met for me to even consider having a serious relationship with you.

My Libra shows in my smooth communication & diplomatic approach w/ people initially.

You also have your Mars in the 3rd like me Mercurian! How does that work for you?

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posted November 20, 2013 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
I definitely feel more Taurean than Libran. I'm the (3) S's: Sensual, solid & stubborn! I have standards and they must be met for me to even consider having a serious relationship with you.

My Libra shows in my smooth communication & diplomatic approach w/ people initially.

You also have your Mars in the 3rd like me Mercurian! How does that work for you?


Yeah, I have standards too. I have my Venus in Libra, and it's in the 2nd House. Plus I'm a Virgo Sun, so it's pretty much default, lol.

Cool. I have Mars in Scorpio, how about you? Capricorn? (since Taurus Venus trines Mars)
Well I think my 3rd House Mars makes me defend my ideas and I sometimes get too arrogant and stop at nothing to convince people of what I think and my opinions, beliefs and ideas. If I believe it's correct, best believe it's going to be a heated debate, lol. I get very serious about my ideas and intellect.
I also get really competitive if it has to do with my skills, intelligence or intellect.

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