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Topic: The most cold-hearted killers : Sagittarius, Capricorn and Aquarius.
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AcousticGod
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posted November 22, 2013 04:54 PM
  
I can't imagine Sags being tough to catch, though I can think of a Sag friend who'd probably be decent at it. Gemini I can see. quote:
Those three signs, specially the Moon signs, were known for their astonishing ability to kill in cold blood without leaving any traces behind.
I'm glad for the caveat that it's primarily the Moon signs. I'm a Capricorn with a Virgo Moon, Mars in Scorpio, and Gemini Rising (Stellium in Sag, too). I harbor ideas that I'd be a good spy, that I'd be able to stick to task without getting side-tracked by too much. I think I'm capable of the carefulness required. I just don't know if I could ever be a murderer outside of the context of a greater good (or outside the context of theatrical production; I think I'd make a decent tv serial killer). IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted November 22, 2013 07:34 PM
As someone pointed out in an earlier thread like this, the serial killer is ONE category of killer. What about the hitman (who kills for money), or an undertaker, the soldier, crime-of-passion killer?I'm sure different signs tops different lists. I suppose all zodiac signs kill, each sign or quadrant have their speciality. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted November 22, 2013 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
I remember reading a book a year ago or so which talked about crimes based on astrology, I forget the title, sorry.It was said that the most common signs in criminal activities were Cancer and Aries. The last on the list involved were Sagittarius and Aquarius. Mind you, not because they don't commit crimes but because they are generally very hard to catch, specially Sags. However when the writer started to talk about the crimes themselves, he mentioned if I remember correctly, that the most horrible murders were committed by Sagittarius, Capricorn and Aquarius equally. Those three signs, specially the Moon signs, were known for their astonishing ability to kill in cold blood without leaving any traces behind. While Scorpios and Leos kill out of revenge and passion, the three other winter signs tend to not show any signs of " emotionalism" in their killing style. It is usually detached, cold, ruthless to the point of being inhumane. So guys, What is your opinion on this ? I found this pretty interesting, I usually associate water signs with this behavior.
One of the worst serial killers of all time is an Aqua sun and your book is correct. He was very hard to catch.
It wasn't because he was brilliant. he was difficult to capture because he was so darned average. No one believed he was capable.
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PixieJane
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posted November 22, 2013 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
the three other winter signs tend to not show any signs of " emotionalism" in their killing style. It is usually detached, cold, ruthless to the point of being inhumane
Interesting. I've thought about if I had to kill how I'd do it and it wouldn't be by obvious means. It's so painstakingly simple (and I was sure to think of all precautions I'd need, or if I haven't then I haven't realized it yet) and I'm pretty sure I could be a serial killer who was never caught if I chose to be that way (having read books on how serial killers are profiled and caught just help me believe that). It's a scary thought to me because I figure I can't be the only one who has thought of such methods, and what about those with the ability who are MOTIVATED to think of them, what have they thought of that I haven't?  I won't list the methods I realized would work for obvious reasons but I will say some of them are so simple a child could, under the right circumstances, think and execute them. I've never used them and hope I never do but if I thought I should to protect someone I would, or also as a mercy killing for someone begging for death but not allowed to die. I assumed it was my Scorpio energy, but maybe it's my Sag energy... IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted November 22, 2013 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SilverFeather:
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It wasn't because he was brilliant. he was difficult to capture because he was so darned average. No one believed he was capable.
You don't think he knew that about himself? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted November 22, 2013 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
You don't think he knew that about himself?
I don't know what goes on inside the minds of serial killers. I can't comprehend doing what they do and not have a nervous breakdown after.
I have no idea what insight they have about themselves or why they do what they do. Maybe they all have Serial Killer Syndrome? IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted November 22, 2013 07:53 PM
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that the most horrible murders were committed by Sagittarius, Capricorn and Aquarius equally.
Oh Puh-lease.. This sounds more biased than the daily mail. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted November 22, 2013 08:21 PM
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MsPrism
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posted November 22, 2013 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Actually most serial killers are really charismatic and social.
Psychopaths are great at faking emotions, and often do this.
That's such a cliche to profile the quite or awkward kids. lol.
Exactly! I think there was a reddit thread for serial killers awhile back. Redditors asked the question "How can we tell you apart from other people?" and one person answered "You can't tell me apart from other people. You'd never know that I'm not an amiable, helpful and trustworthy person." I think the Pisces influence makes the most sense because with Neptune conjunct my MC, I tend to see exactly what people want from me and I assume that role, when I'm feeling sociable. This seems more like a good trait for a sociopath rather than being immediately pegged as "different". quote:
Originally posted by AcousticGod:
I just don't know if I could ever be a murderer outside of the context of a greater good....
I think this is exactly why Sag would be a killer though. With the thought that God is behind your decisions, you can't blame "me" a mere mortal, right? Jupiter rules justice and justification is what you might need if you were to have a conscience. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted November 22, 2013 10:41 PM
There was a serial killer in Louisiana I just saw on a true crime show and he lived with a girlfriend or wife, one, whom he called honey-bunny or something similar. They worked at the same convenience store and he murdered while she was away working her shift. I don't know his sign, wish I did.
After the cops questioned him and he knew he was pretty much sunk, he crawled into bed, snuggled next to his girlfriend and said, "sorry honey-bunny." So, as you can see, the Serial Killer can be quite normal and well adjusted when they aren't killing, that is.And, he was this little nerdy guy with such sweet eyes, didn't look dangerous in the slightest and even appeared to be the type a guy women would smack around. Yet, he was this serial killer who had been murdering for years and the way he murdered would have definitely taken some fortitude and physical strength. How this little guy managed it is quite a conundrum. He was definitely no body builder. He dismembered his victims in his kitchen (of the house he shared with his wife) and managed to get everything cleaned up before he picked her up from work. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted November 22, 2013 10:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUsGDVOCLVQ I could do neither.
I would probably start freaking out and crying in a corner.
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Padre35
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posted November 23, 2013 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
There was a mafia assassin (or maybe he was just part of the mafia) who was a Sagittarius and obsessed with martial arts. I can't remember his name but it as Tony something (maybe Tony The Kid? GAH I hate when I can't remember!) but he was famous for his brutal killing methods.Also Richard Kuklinski, my favorite, had an Aries sun and Leo moon. HE killed men in inhumane ways, for sure. He's my favorite out of all the serial killers… look him up, he's "The Ice Man."
Funny thing is he was Polish and dealt with Italian mafiosi and no one would mess with him "don't **** with the pollack"
Well, have a Saggie Sun, and I've been accused of "are you a serial killer" with some frequency..never got the reason why b/c I'm usually happy go lucky or just thinking about stuff
Could be Saggie's just seem odd, like we'd do whatever we want to do and screw the other person Now the creepier thing to me is there is a certain subset of people who find that sort of potential dangerousness really exciting. As for "getting away with it" keep in mind, Saggies have deep knowledge of many different things and for all of the happy go lucky, they normally really think about stuff that is important to them. For example a Saggie would know you'd never use duct tape, it glues all sort of evidence to it, they'd know that most traffic stops happen on Fri/Sat, Sundays and Mondays are usually light shifts for the local PD so their chances of being stopped would be far less etc. To me, if one wants to think of a serial killer who does that for a long time, think of a Jeopardy! Champion, they would have to have a broad knowledge of many subjects IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted November 23, 2013 12:52 AM
I have a sag/cap friend who went through a very dark period where he fantasized about murdering his co-workers and rude customers. I won't go into any details of what he told me but he said some downright unsettling and creepy sh*t. Luckily he is on anti-psychotic meds now and seems to be ok. Atleast he seems ok...IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted November 23, 2013 02:06 AM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUsGDVOCLVQ I could do neither.
I would probably start freaking out and crying in a corner.
Ditto. I would probably run back and forth and in circles, freak out, and not be able to save anyone. Then I would probably be committed to the local psych ward. YouTube: That was a completely unfair scenario.
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Padre35
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posted November 23, 2013 02:30 AM
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Originally posted by Violets:
Ditto. I would probably run back and forth and in circles, freak out, and not be able to save anyone. Then I would probably be committed to the local psych ward.YouTube: That was a completely unfair scenario.
Suspect he has it a bit wrong, a psychopath may just reason that the people on the train assumed the risk of riding in a train, they derail, people die when that happens. So the over weight guy, who walked on a bridge that rarely collapses, is fine and just a co-viewer of the carnage that is about to happen. His scenario presumes that the psycho will be seen as heroic, the psychopath may think he would risk exposure so it's better to just let nature take it's course concerning the train wreck. Psycopaths/sociopaths lack any capacity for empathy, they concern themselves with not being exposed for what they really are even to the point where the scenario would more than likely not appeal to them. Their greatest "talent" is not being seen for what they are in fact IP: Logged |
next to neptune
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posted November 23, 2013 02:42 AM
There is also the famous Paplo Escobar. He was a drug lord in columbia, probably the most famous ever and he also killed 100rds of people or maybe thousands….And he is of course a sagittarius sun, with aries moon trine leo in pluto
He had a capricorn venus, and also some virgo influence(virgo mars)…
I think his chart makes the perfect criminal, he is a true leader with lots of power and passion, but also he can be really calculated and coldhearted I think IP: Logged |
MsPrism
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posted November 23, 2013 03:08 AM
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Originally posted by Padre35:
Suspect he has it a bit wrong, a psychopath may just reason that the people on the train assumed the risk of riding in a train, they derail, people die when that happens.So the over weight guy, who walked on a bridge that rarely collapses, is fine and just a co-viewer of the carnage that is about to happen. His scenario presumes that the psycho will be seen as heroic, the psychopath may think he would risk exposure so it's better to just let nature take it's course concerning the train wreck.
This is what I decided I would do. Although I do have feelings as it made me feel bad to think about hurting the gentleman behind me. Sometimes many people die and few survive, such is life. IP: Logged |
darksoul18
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posted November 23, 2013 09:56 PM
Thank God Geminis are not on this list. Although, I could see Geminis being like this just like Sags, Caps, and Aqua's simply because they can be good at deceiving people. Trust me I'd know because I am one! 
I use my powers for good, trust me... well, usually. lol
Libra could go into this category as well I guess if I just went that route. Although, highly unlikely considering that Libra's hate all forms of injustice and want balance more than anything. I guess they would have the potential to charm everyone though too I guess. I don't know too much about Rising Libra's except I know that Hitler was one(previously stated).------------------
Gemini with Scorpio Asc (Pluto in 1st house)
"The human body is not a thing or substance given, but a continuous creation. The human body is an energy system which is never a complete structure; never static; is in perpetual inner self-construction and self-destruction; we destroy in order to make it new." - Norman O. Brown IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
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posted November 23, 2013 10:03 PM
You're right, you better not mess with Capricorns.  ------------------
I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
darksoul18
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posted November 23, 2013 10:06 PM
No one cares about Capricorns. j/k..
A little doll with a knife doesn't scare me. I'll punt that ******* to the Moon.------------------
Gemini with Scorpio Asc (Pluto in 1st house)
"The human body is not a thing or substance given, but a continuous creation. The human body is an energy system which is never a complete structure; never static; is in perpetual inner self-construction and self-destruction; we destroy in order to make it new." - Norman O. Brown IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
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posted November 23, 2013 10:17 PM
What if it sneaks into your bedroom while you're asleep? Anyway, I think I could kill if necessary to protect myself or someone else. Does that make me a potential murderer? ------------------
I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted November 23, 2013 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
What if it sneaks into your bedroom while you're asleep? Anyway, I think I could kill if necessary to protect myself or someone else. Does that make me a potential murderer?
Nope
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Mercurian Intellect
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posted November 23, 2013 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by Padre35:
Suspect he has it a bit wrong, a psychopath may just reason that the people on the train assumed the risk of riding in a train, they derail, people die when that happens.So the over weight guy, who walked on a bridge that rarely collapses, is fine and just a co-viewer of the carnage that is about to happen. His scenario presumes that the psycho will be seen as heroic, the psychopath may think he would risk exposure so it's better to just let nature take it's course concerning the train wreck. Psycopaths/sociopaths lack any capacity for empathy, they concern themselves with not being exposed for what they really are even to the point where the scenario would more than likely not appeal to them. Their greatest "talent" is not being seen for what they are in fact
In all honesty, this is what I would do too if this happened. Does that make me a psychopath? IP: Logged |
darksoul18
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From: Mercury
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posted November 23, 2013 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
What if it sneaks into your bedroom while you're asleep? Anyway, I think I could kill if necessary to protect myself or someone else. Does that make me a potential murderer?
Not at all. I'd figure something out, not exactly sure what. I'm sure my Scorpio qualities would alert me while I'm asleep or something. ------------------
Gemini with Scorpio Asc (Pluto in 1st house)
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted November 23, 2013 10:28 PM
In all honesty I would rather deal with Chucky than a real life HUMAN killer :sIP: Logged |
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