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Topic: Getting into a relationship during the Saturn return
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Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 6983 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted November 27, 2013 07:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Are you suggesting that not having a boyfriend means not living???
If you feel like it's not living... then yes. quote: Your Saturn return won't be awful unless you meet me
You silly woman! You haven't met me. Now, who's the biggest freak? IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 3715 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 27, 2013 07:20 PM
quote: If you feel like it's not living... then yes.
Come one, you should know my opinion already ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 1167 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted November 27, 2013 08:04 PM
<Edit> Oops. Be back in a few.IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 3715 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 27, 2013 08:05 PM
Violets, we're waiting.muddy, thanks for posting that weird info lol. ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 1167 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted November 27, 2013 08:20 PM
Sorry, that was also a weird double post.Anyhoo, my Saturn return did indeed suck. Really badly. My life was a mess though, so...if you have your sh*t together, it might not be so bad. My Saturn is in my 11th, and square Pluto (and, as you may know, at the apex of my Yod). I was in a really dysfunctional relationship when it came around, and that relationship ended quite abruptly and unexpectedly (at least from my perspective). Yet it dragged on, but I won't get into that stupid scenario. At the end of it I had lost my job and got back together with the jerk I was with, but ended up starting a new career that I LOVED with every fiber of my being when it was all said and done. A few years later, Pluto squared my Venus and I ditched the jerk. During that time (Saturn in 11th) I was really cut off from my old friends, and completely severed a lot of ties but made new ones. My thoughts are that if it's in your 5th, you may start to reexamine your own childhood and attitudes towards relationships based on that. I don't know that I would automatically assume that a new relationship would develop at that time, but maybe when the return is over? I mean, it could, who knows...but when I think of the 5th I often think of our own childhoods and how we see them. Also, creativity. You may find new outlets for that, who knows? You all seem like way more responsible people than I was when I was your age(s), so I wouldn't worry too terribly. It can be super hard, but when it's over it's golden.
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DialecticLady Knowflake Posts: 314 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 27, 2013 08:34 PM
I'm going through more or less the same situations you've passed in your SR Violet. It's a relief to know that in the end everything ends well. Thanks for sharing!*Cappy sorry for invading your thread IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 1167 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted November 27, 2013 08:36 PM
I hope my Saturn return story wasn't too dismal for everyone. I was doing a lot of things in my life that were absolutely not working for me, so they were removed. Because I had not taken the initiative to remove them of my own accord prior to that, and I think that's kind of what Saturn is all about. Whatever isn't working for your greatest good is going to get thrown out, and it can be painful. Or you may just experience a ton of responsibility that makes you feel like you're going to break down, but you don't. You become stronger (sorry to sound like a feel-good cliche).BUT. I didn't give up or give in, and I kept trudging through the loneliness and really hard financial stuff, and I got to where I needed to be. When people have their lives on track to begin with, Saturn returns can be stressful but we learn a lot from them, and they're not always quite as dismal as mine was. But I'm indescribably grateful for what it gave me in the long-run. Um...I hope that's helpful, and not depressing. IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 1167 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted November 27, 2013 08:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by DialecticLady: I'm going through more or less the same situations you've passed in your SR Violet. It's a relief to know that in the end everything ends well. Thanks for sharing!*Cappy sorry for invading your thread
Oh, good (not that you're going through it, but that I was able to offer up something not horribly depressing). I am so much happier due to the changes that occurred during my Saturn return, as hard as they were at the time. IP: Logged |
DialecticLady Knowflake Posts: 314 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 27, 2013 08:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by Violets: Oh, good (not that you're going through it, but that I was able to offer up something not horribly depressing).I am so much happier due to the changes that occurred during my Saturn return, as hard as they were at the time.
Violets, I'm kind of used with saturn energy because it hit all my angular houses and luminaries someway and it's strong (10th house) BUT I never could imagine that despite all this placements I have, my SR would be sooo hard. IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 1167 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted November 27, 2013 08:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by DialecticLady: Violets, I'm kind of used with saturn energy because it hit all my angular houses and luminaries someway and it's strong (10th house) BUT I never could imagine that despite all this placements I have, my SR would be sooo hard.
I'm sorry that you're having to go through that right now. Just keep putting one foot in front of the other, and there should be a light at the end of the tunnel. My two cents. IP: Logged |
DialecticLady Knowflake Posts: 314 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 27, 2013 08:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by Violets: I'm sorry that you're having to go through that right now. Just keep putting one foot in front of the other, and there should be a light at the end of the tunnel. My two cents.
Thanks very much Violet! I'm very optimistic person and I believe we don't receive what we can't handle. Maybe I'm thinking this extra hard because Pluto is transiting my 12th too and I'm feeling like someone took my strength from me, like my battery is discharged somehow lol..it's weird. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 3715 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 27, 2013 08:53 PM
Lady, whatever is happening I believe you'll survive Saturn's children are good at it.Violets, thanks for sharing. I've had enough of analyzing my childhood and any other stuff related to my family so I hope you're wrong about this part Creativity? I'm planning to get the party started much earlier ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
DialecticLady Knowflake Posts: 314 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 27, 2013 08:55 PM
Thanks Cappy IP: Logged |
fireopal09 Knowflake Posts: 164 From: Dallas,TX, Us Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 27, 2013 09:14 PM
Evidence of Saturn's Return showed up on the eve of my 28th birthday. Go grab your drink of choice. My then fiancé forgot to close his email when he had to go get his daughter. I had already been suspicious of him; so, naturally my Mercury in Scorpio HAD to find check it out. Yes, he had been in a relationship with something cut rate when I had been dealing with trauma earlier in April (I am an October person.). Anyway, that caused me to leave Alaska in early November and go back home to Dallas. I met my now ex husband 5 months later, got engaged almost 2 years later, and was pregnant 2 months after the engagement. Divorce came 5 years later. Why the hell did that Saturn Return seem like Pluto & Uranus had a hand in all that? Anyway, my point is, pay attention to the grown up stuff. Take a very brutally honest assessment of your life. ------------------ Claire "When going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -HST IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 1319 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 27, 2013 11:26 PM
I think it depends on the position and aspects of the natal Saturn. ------------------ http://www.lightofthestars.com Every Chart has a Gift IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 1167 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted November 28, 2013 12:30 AM
Oh yeah...I forgot to mention that my Saturn is only like 3 degrees from my 12th house, so it was transiting my 12th while I was having my return. Yay. Self-undoing indeed.I could go into detail about the absurdities in my life during that time, but for now I'll just spare everyone. Cappy, I remember some of your earlier posts about your creative contemplations. Maybe you'll just experience a lot of added responsibilities in that area that will help open new doors when the transit is over? I wish you all grace and strength for those times. (And, if you don't mind, send some of the same to me, haha. I'll have Saturn coming around to transit over my NN and Neptune, activating my T-square with Sun/Moon in a year or so, so...yikes.) Anyhoo, don't mean to get sidetracked (but I will anyway, because I'm Neptunian like that). IP: Logged |
summerlite Knowflake Posts: 89 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 28, 2013 09:40 AM
You know, there's this guy. He just turned 29. I've been sensing he broke up with his girlfriend. The girl's one of his good friends for many years but they got together much later. You would think they are so ready to get married such they are so good together.I'm pretty sure they did break up now. Couldn't help thinking it's this whole Saturn thing. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 6983 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted November 28, 2013 10:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Come one, you should know my opinion already
Not really, enlighten me? IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 3715 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 28, 2013 11:10 AM
^Have I ever whined about being single? Violets, thank you. I do count on being super creative during that time ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 6983 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted November 28, 2013 11:30 AM
Not directly, you don't really whine (Saturn, duhhh).But you're human just like most people on here (lol) so it's pretty fair to assume that a part of you does want a relationship - or more precisely, someone who'd care about you and love you just the way you are, and vice versa. ... And I can be that person. Jk, jk. Kinda.
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 3715 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 28, 2013 12:09 PM
How can you be sure I'm a human? What if I'm an alien? ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 366 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted November 28, 2013 12:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: My Saturn return scares the lights outta me. I can just tell it's gonna be effin' awful, lmao.I can't even handle it sitting on my Sun... so I can only imagine what it's gonna be like when it will cross my natal position and trigger all the squares + opp. Don't be so optimistic and do things now! Don't wait for the big bad wolf to make its return to start living... (I totally need to apply this advice to myself).
As someone who got prompted to check when their Saturn return was and what happened at the time, I appear to have pulled a major "Fabulous timing, good going, you" move for the precise date. I appear to have posted a "Good gods you people are young! How can you be so young when I'm still 18?! Rly I am. Or was just yesterday, for sure" type of a thing where I also then claimed that people some 10-15 years older than me were surely about the age that people five years older than me were supposed to be, if actually counting the years. "Come on, they're not 45, they're 34 or something at most." My Saturn is in 12H, top of a generational T-square. Other things discussed that day included allusions to the Shadow side in psychology, in relation to some fandom things. On the whole I wouldn't say Saturn return was bad, but if you look at that entire year for me, I in the spring had to come back from another country where I'd loved staying the past couple of years, only to then feel like I'd go crazy if I didn't get back there by December. Staying there didn't last and I haven't been back there since then, stuck here if you like and only able to go back now (meant to be arranging flights as we speak). Transiting Saturn doesn't trine mine yet, but it'll hit my NN and trine itself a degree after that in the coming months, so that should be interesting if nothing else. Not an ideal year and I don't know how much of anything it started or didn't start at my end, but I don't consider it having been anywhere near as bad as some people say they can get. I can see how young I was at the time still though, so no, not particularly impressed with a pre-Saturn Return person preaching at people about what it does or doesn't do as if judgemental Saturn impersonified, but never mind that anymore I guess. Saturn is in Cancer square 4H Uranus, Moon in 8H Pisces, Pluto in 4H Libra near the IC, DC Aquarius. No thoughts to marriage at the time for sure. No thoughts of marriage ever really, but that's more for never meeting anyone I'd fit in with more so. Rather alone than with something not wanted. My Saturn Return date has transit Sun square my MC (from East Point), 1 opp my natal asteroid for the capital city I'd mostly lived in or around in the other country. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 6983 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted November 28, 2013 12:46 PM
Cappy, What if aliens have feelings, too?
- Keela, Interesting, thanks for sharing your experience. I'm nowhere near having my Saturn return (pheww) but I know the clock is ticking. Better get my act together before it happens so I don't get slapped in the face toooo hard, hahaha. IP: Logged |
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 2263 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 28, 2013 01:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: A serious relationship. Do you think it's a good time for it? I have a feeling it might happen to me and I don't know what to think about it.
Happens to all. Listen to your gut. But don't waste your energy thinking that a relationship is the only thing that will happen to you. Everything is gonna change for you. You only need to think if you ready to take what Saturn is giving you. You need ro be prepare yourself for everything. If you are now in a bad relationship, you will end it. If you hate your job, you will quit and start a new one, if you want to move outside your country, you will, if you want a relationship you will get it but you will see that relationship in a different way. A more mature one. How? Simple: You wont settle for less and you won't make any compromises. Its gonna be all or nothing. Otherwise you will feel like something is missing. SR effects last for three years like any other outer planet transit. Best of luck and cheer up. Saturn is a good guy.
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DaniPepper87 Knowflake Posts: 848 From: Curitiba, Brasil Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 28, 2013 01:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: Happens to all. Listen to your gut. But don't waste your energy thinking that a relationship is the only thing that will happen to you. Everything is gonna change for you. You only need to think if you ready to take what Saturn is giving you. You need ro be prepare yourself for everything. If you are now in a bad relationship, you will end it. If you hate your job, you will quit and start a new one, if you want to move outside your country, you will, if you want a relationship you will get it but you will see that relationship in a different way. A more mature one. How? Simple: You wont settle for less and you won't make any compromises. Its gonna be all or nothing. Otherwise you will feel like something is missing. SR effects last for three years like any other outer planet transit. Best of luck and cheer up. Saturn is a good guy.
I agree with you. I'm 26 now, somehow I'm feeling more and more "adult". Sure, my SR will start in the end of 2016, but now I'm not afraid anymore. This year for me showed me a lot of things I wouldn't before. Cappy, as myself a late bloomer, I wish you a very happy SR. As a Saturn child, I guess you will survive better than others (I have a little more difficult, but not.. I'm Pluto's daughter... I NEED to transform.. heheheh) IP: Logged |