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I'm so cappy
Knowflake

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posted November 27, 2013 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A serious relationship. Do you think it's a good time for it? I have a feeling it might happen to me and I don't know what to think about it.

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Doux Rêve
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posted November 27, 2013 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been thinking about the whole Saturn return / relationships thing, as well (great minds think alike? ).

Technically speaking, there's potential for something solid, serious and long-term.
But on the other hand, if the return is actually difficult and requires some deep changes within the person, then meeting someone at that point in time may turn out to be just another step in your evolution.
They could be a catalyst in some way - showing you something that you need to know in order to grow and (hopefully) change for the better.

I know a lot of couples break up during the Saturn return, but I've heard that some people get married and have kids during that time, as well.

I don't know what it depends on, though...
The natal placement of Saturn, maybe? Or the overall "level of evolution" of the person. Maybe other transits and progressions play a role in this as well.


Oops sorry that didn't really answer your question.

I have a feeling you'll meet someone before your SR, though.

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DialecticLady
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posted November 27, 2013 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DialecticLady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got traumatized with this topic but I'll try to answer properly lol. I'm in my saturn return and I don't want a relationship like you mentioned because I'm too focused on myself and I feel as I need some time to be alone. But it's me

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Doux Rêve
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posted November 27, 2013 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My best friend had her SR not long ago and she's been in a relationship with a dude who's obviously wrong for her on all levels but she clings and clings and doesn't wanna let go... I tell her there's no way it's gonna last because of their fundamental incompatibilities but she's stubborn.

Pretty sure she met him during her SR and I doubt their relationship is gonna lead to a happy ending Just waiting for the sh** to hit the fan...

On the other hand, my sister and her boyfriend are getting more and more serious and things seem to be really good between them (fingers crossed). The guy will have his SR in a few months... can't wait to see what will happen. Hopefully everything will be all right.

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posted November 27, 2013 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doux, my Saturn is in the 5th and is its ruler so I guess the return could wake up the relationship side of it. I hope your sister and her bf will survive it!

Lady, I've never been in a relationship and I'm pretty sure it's not going to change soon so I suppose in a few years I could limit my alone time a little if someone interesting appeared

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DialecticLady
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posted November 27, 2013 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DialecticLady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this wrong guy should be maybe a part of what she must learn in her SR. My mom married in her SR and my dad become a father in his. But my mom regret until today marry in that time, cause she thinks that wasn't mature enough. They divorced 3o years later.

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posted November 27, 2013 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn is a good time to start anything you want to last a long time and take seriously. Saturn relationships might not be the funnest but they last and last.
Saturn return is a good time to give unconditional love and form a solid bond with another person.

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posted November 27, 2013 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lady, you're scaring me

SSS, we will see

Would there be any difference if the relationship started a little before the return?
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dadoo
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posted November 27, 2013 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Saturn is a good time to start anything you want to last a long time and take seriously. Saturn relationships might not be the funnest but they last and last.
Saturn return is a good time to give unconditional love and form a solid bond with another person.

I hope they don't "last and last" too long because my friend sure has made a mess of her life with that marriage of hers.
I understand this might be a necessary step in her development, but it really is a sorry sight.

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DialecticLady
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posted November 27, 2013 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DialecticLady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol I'm sorry Cappy!

But isn't 30 years enough?

They're very good friends now

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posted November 27, 2013 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It scares me that people can stay for so long in unhappy marriages Well, I have an example right in front of my nose, ugh.

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Doux Rêve
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posted November 27, 2013 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, cappy.

Personally... I think the Saturn return period is way too shaky on a personal level so I don't think meeting someone at that time will lead to a long-lasting relationship... But anything can happen!


One thing though: who wants to have a long-lasting relationship if it's UNHAPPY?!! I never understand people like that. And I see plentyyy of women being caught in misery and unable to leave. WTH!! Who cares about long-term if you ain't happy!! Better go for short relationships but loving at least... Ugh it's the insecurity and the fear of being alone that does that.

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posted November 27, 2013 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a lot to say about my Saturn return experience, but I will have to leave you guys hanging for now (sorry).

Be back later.

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Doux Rêve
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posted November 27, 2013 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
weird dp.

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DialecticLady
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posted November 27, 2013 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DialecticLady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah, it's my biggest fear when I think about marriage.

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posted November 27, 2013 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dadoo:
I hope they don't "last and last" too long because my friend sure has made a mess of her life with that marriage of hers.
I understand this might be a necessary step in her development, but it really is a sorry sight.

The decisions they make reflect Saturn. It's a time to figure out if they are mature enough to do what it takes to turn the relationship into a beneficial one for both. Saturn is the tester and the ones you experience difficulties with make the most impression, change you forever. You look at the world differently.
Sometimes you have to think about it from the soul's perspective. How can I take this situation and make the most of it?

Sometimes, it requires separation. My cousin and her husband had a lot of difficulties when they first married. They could have easily called it quits. They had no pressure to stay together other than they were married and had taken vows. They didn't have any children. They were on the verge of divorce, my cousin already moved back home when they decided to try counseling. They are still together to this day. Sometimes, it can be turned around if both people are willing.

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posted November 27, 2013 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doux, hun, since I'm very familiar with Saturn I'm not really impressed with this whole big bad return I suspect I could actually become more stable internally, unless life throws at me a pile of **** huge like I've never seen before. If I'm supposed to end up in a relationship I want it to be lasting but not at the expense of my happiness. I'm not desperate to be paired up but I suppose it's obvious.


SSS, I definitely support working on issues but sometimes there's nothing left to fix...
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Doux Rêve
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posted November 27, 2013 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Phewww. There's some hope!

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Kerosene
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posted November 27, 2013 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyways love affair does not really come to mind for a saturn return unless you have saturn in the 5th house.

I think it depends what saturn is doing in your chart.
if he's your 7th house ruler or in the 7th house than marriage comes to mind.

29 for saturn retunr..
omg I wonder what i'll be like at 29...
I don't want to think about it, I'll probably be worrying about picking a meal from the rotisserie.. **** ...

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Doux Rêve
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posted November 27, 2013 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Saturn return scares the lights outta me.
I can just tell it's gonna be effin' awful, lmao.

I can't even handle it sitting on my Sun... so I can only imagine what it's gonna be like when it will cross my natal position and trigger all the squares + opp. Brrr!! I have some time left though, phew. Hahaha.

Don't be so optimistic and do things now! Don't wait for the big bad wolf to make its return to start living... (I totally need to apply this advice to myself).

But well. It could go well. We never know. Time will tell.

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posted November 27, 2013 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Anyways love affair does not really come to mind for a saturn return unless you have saturn in the 5th house.

It is in the 5th house. You could read previous posts sometimes It conjuncts my NN closely, I just can't wait for my destiny to unveil itself I don't know what about you but I'm going to take a space trip with Virgin at that time

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posted November 27, 2013 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn is really well aspected in my chart.
he's domicile in the 10th,
I'll be the boss I'm guessing.
Maybe my family gets neglected

I can very well see that a happening.
*takes off shades*
Sorry babe I'm running **** ..
I don't actually say babe LOL.. I hate that word.

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posted November 27, 2013 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Don't be so optimistic and do things now! Don't wait for the big bad wolf to make its return to start living... (I totally need to apply this advice to myself).

But well. It could go well. We never know. Time will tell.


Are you suggesting that not having a boyfriend means not living???
Your Saturn return won't be awful unless you meet me

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posted November 27, 2013 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On the bright side, it seems that saturn return can give career/jobs a good boost. My cousin got into a bad relationship when she was 29. It ended, she's still in the process of getting it out of her mind. But during this time, she also finished her studies, ditched her old job, got a new, good job and money was flowing in lol.

She's a cap ascendant, Saturn is in libra-8th house.

All of this Saturn return stuff has gotten me excited. I found a thread where people talked about half-Saturn return (?) it is pretty interesting http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/001587.html

Kinda true for me though, things took a turn for the better when I was 15 lol.

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posted November 27, 2013 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Peri:
Every 7 years SATURN makes a strong aspect with itself or a major planet and these aspects happens in every persons Horoscope. SUN, MOON, MARS, ASCENDANT; being the major planets. These SATURN transits have great effects on all individuals lives. The best known book about this phenomenon is call PASSAGES by Gail Sheehe. Sheehe hides ASTROLOGY in the context of a long psychology essay.

The SATURN Cycles

Age 0 - 6/7. [1/4 SATURN cycle]
At birth the human child is totally dependent on it's mother, it's parents and others in it's immediate environment. At this age a human child cannot survive by itself. It will be at least 3 or 4 years after birth before the very smartest of children could survive by itself. This SATURN cycle is when all the basic survival skills and ethics should be taught to the offspring. ETHICS are different than MORALS.

Age 7 - 13/14. [1/2 SATURN cycle]
The child begins to really socialize during this SATURN cycle. Children also start to break away from the tight control of their parents. Most kids gain some independence and a few could survive by themselves well . The later part of this cycle is when a real sex education should begin, actually the earlier the better. The huge number of Teenage Pregnancies in the United States is utterly ridiculous and a social travesty.

Age 14 - 20/21. [3/4 SATURN cycle]
HORMONES! Puberty is the beginning of this SATURN cycle. The child normally grows to full adult size during this period and has to adjust to all the hormonal changes it's body is going through including the possibility of becoming a parent. Learning social skills and mental development is what Mother Nature has in mind for this time frame.

Unfortunately most adult humans are forever stuck at this age of development, both socially and intellectually. The proof of this assertion being the current worldwide social structure which is pretty much based on a Junior High School mentality, i.e. Insecure and possessive relationships dominated by a clique values.

Age 21 - 28/29. [1st Full SATURN cycle]
Near the end of this SATURN cycle a human being finally becomes a psychological adult, i.e. breaks away from it's parent's influences and really understands both responsibility and begins it's own life. A period when most people should begin their careers after an apprenticeship period. But instead many human beings are starting a family while they themselves are still too young to be responsible enough. It's really hard for any person to know who they really are until this cycle is over. The keyword is experience and it has many advantages.

Age 28 - 35. [1 1/4 SATURN cycles]
Most work very hard at their chosen careers and/or family's during SATURN'S second go-around. This SATURN cycle is the time when the majority should begin their family's, after their careers have "come together", the really smart people follow this pattern. But most actually started a family 10 years earlier. As the end of this cycle approaches some people begin to find a health problem or two. It is also a point in many peoples lives when they begin to realize that they have limitations.

Age 35 - 42. [1 1/2 SATURN cycles]
During this SATURN cycle is the point when a lot of people realize that their life is 1/2 over and if they want something in that LIFE, they had better do it soon or forget it. For men in particular as 40 approaches this has been the time when many seem to go into a second childhood [at least that's what is incorrectly thought by most people]. These people are just reaching for their true goals. Today women can use the same excuse to make significant changes in their lives.

Age 43 - 50. [1 3/4 SATURN cycles]
This SATURN cycle is the "minor" power and wealth age. Many corporate and political type individuals begin to achieve their goals but must watch their health. Go-getter's who are climbing the ladder of success sometimes die of stress related diseases at this point in their lives. Stress management is very important to all.

Age 51 - 58 or 60. [2nd full SATURN cycle]
This is the end of the second SATURN transit of the Zodiac and today it is also the life expectancy of some adults. It's the distinguished power age and the major wealth age. This is the point in LIFE where many make their highest achievements, that is unless you are a politician or entertainer.

Age 59 - 66. [2 1/4 SATURN cycles]
Many politicos become very successful during this SATURN cycle. The Distinguished years, a time to wield the money and power that a person has achieved. Another time to be careful about your health however.

Age 66 - 73. [2 1/2 SATURN cycles]
This SATURN cycle is the Retirement age for most people but not for some politicians who achieve their zenith during this period. A lot of folks plan to do those things they have always wanted to do during this interlude of their life.

Age 74 - 81. [2 3/4 SATURN cycles]
This SATURN cycle can be very rewarding for those who are healthy and lucky to be alive. Most of those left begin to experience fragility as their 80's begin.

Age 82 - 89 or 90. [3 full SATURN cycles]
This SATURN cycle usually brings passing on but there are a few who are really lucky to still be alive. All but the most virile become very fragile souls. Very, very few people live beyond this SATURN cycle.
http://www.astrologyhoroscopes.info/saturn.htm http://www.astropoetics.com/astropoetics/teacher/articles/saturn.html


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