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pvorb
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posted December 06, 2013 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pvorb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Do you think Uranus affects the activities of your 2nd house?

What is the planet with the 2nd highest degree in your chart?


What an embarrassing thing to ask (for me). Well, I've never had to work in my life as I'm sustained by the economic support from my parents. I'm currently a student in my last year of Uni. My parents don't want me to work, in fact, they got into great lengths to keep me from moving out. Of course, once I get my degree, I don't think they'll try to stop me from anything, it was more of a concentrate on your studies thing. But then they shouldn't have minded me moving out closer to my campus. Ugh. My father getting fired from his last company and having some momentary differences to his prior employer certainly had an Uranus vibe to it (remember, my income comes from him only). I think I should mention I have intercepted Taurus in 12th house and Scorpio in 6th. That is if I have a Gemini rising and not a Taurus one, which is not 100% definite.

Neptune. And, after that, Saturn. All parallel to each other, huh.

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posted December 06, 2013 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
wow Ceri! 2 OOB planets that are parallel!

how do you feel it?


they seem to operate "out of the box" and do not really feel obligated to stick to social rules or socially accepted behaviour (esp. Venus).

Mercury can at times dominate my whole personality (it is also practiclaly unaspected, only conjunct Sun - it is a very prominent placement there).

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posted December 06, 2013 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm confused as to how parallels act in the natal...what is the importance of them? Do they act like strong conjunctions? I'm kind of confused...
I have sun parallel moon
Sun parallel mars
Moon parallel Saturn
Venus parallel jupiter
Venus and jupiter parallel ASC which 1st house is also my highest declination. 2nd house cusp and 8th house cusp are parallel the ASC.

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posted December 06, 2013 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pvorb:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jessica2407:
[b]Do you think Uranus affects the activities of your 2nd house?

What is the planet with the 2nd highest degree in your chart?


What an embarrassing thing to ask (for me). Well, I've never had to work in my life as I'm sustained by the economic support from my parents. I'm currently a student in my last year of Uni. My parents don't want me to work, in fact, they got into great lengths to keep me from moving out. Of course, once I get my degree, I don't think they'll try to stop me from anything, it was more of a concentrate on your studies thing. But then they shouldn't have minded me moving out closer to my campus. Ugh. My father getting fired from his last company and having some momentary differences to his prior employer certainly had an Uranus vibe to it (remember, my income comes from him only). I think I should mention I have intercepted Taurus in 12th house and Scorpio in 6th. That is if I have a Gemini rising and not a Taurus one, which is not 100% definite.

Neptune. And, after that, Saturn. All parallel to each other, huh. [/B][/QUOTE]

well, I tried my best to ask the question in such a way so as not to cause you embarrassment! Because if I follow what I think is an emerging pattern, Uranus must affect or must have a large impact on your 2nd house.

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Jessica2407
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posted December 06, 2013 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
they seem to operate "out of the box" and do not really feel obligated to stick to social rules or socially accepted behaviour (esp. Venus).

Mercury can at times dominate my whole personality (it is also practiclaly unaspected, only conjunct Sun - it is a very prominent placement there).


Yeah I can feel that *the part where you say Mercury can at times dominate your whole personality*

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posted December 06, 2013 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pvorb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
well, I tried my best to ask the question in such a way so as not to cause you embarrassment! Because if I follow what I think is an emerging pattern, Uranus must affect or must have a large impact on your 2nd house.
Lucky me. And my embarrassment on the whole matter has nothing to do with you asking a question, it's something I have in myself at all times.

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posted December 06, 2013 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
^Great guys!

okay could you find out which house cusp has the highest declination OR which house cusps are parallel and relate it back to your parallel planets?


It's been a long while since I posted, but I'm interested in this topic too haha.

My ASC/DSC has the highest declination at 23 deg, and it's contraparallel/parallel Uranus and my NN respectively. I have both in my 7th natally so I guess this just emphasizes how important 7th house affairs are in my life... and how unusual my romantic tastes are lol

Also, it's interesting that my ASC is contraparallel to Uranus because my ASC decan is in Aquarius.

I also have my 2nd/8th house axis contraparallel/parallel to Neptune at 21 deg. I wonder how this would affect my career, since it's the dispositor of my 10th.

Speaking of the 10th, I also have my MC/IC axis parallel/contraparallel to Pluto. Hmmm.

As for planets, I don't have lots of parallel/contraparallels except for Sun and Mars at 18 deg and Moon and venus at 1 deg.

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posted December 06, 2013 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting topic

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I have sun parallel venus - they don't form an aspect.

Sun parallel Uranus - they conjunct in my natal chart.

Mercury parallel saturn and Neptune - no aspect

Mercury contra-parallel mars - semi-sextiles


With sun parallel venus, I do feel the effect in certain ways, like "some" (LOL) narcissistic traits. I also secretly obsess over things that are beautiful and/or fragrant. And also this:

quote:
You prefer to gently coerce than demand. You are generally quite affectionate, but you may not be as forthcoming unless you know your feelings are returned.

Sun parallel Uranus - Hmm although they also conjunct, I don't think I often do things that are out of the ordinary - not to me, at least. But what I do often clash with what is expected of me or the "general behaviour" of my social circles. Yeah... I guess that's how it plays out.

As for the mercury aspects, well at this moment I can't really think of how they play out in my life, I guess my interest in the occult can be because of mercury-Neptune.

Mercury-Saturn: I dislike when people spell words wrong (in my birth language, not English lol). I remember a few years ago some dude back in my country wanted to make changes to the writing system and I went nuts.

Mercury-mars: active/busy/restless mind. Occasional verbal outbursts.

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mars contra parallel asc and NN
Mercury, saturn and neptune parallel asc and NN


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quote:
Originally posted by Jessica2407:

okay could you find out which house cusp has the highest declination OR which house cusps are parallel and relate it back to your parallel planets?

My 6th -12th house axis has the highest declination. 12th house cusp parallel sun/venus/uranus – I have them in the 12th.

IC/MC axis –parallel/contra parallel moon.

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posted December 06, 2013 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus parallel Descendant by one minute!Getting along with others is so important for me, especially as Venus is my chart ruler and natally in Virgo-12th house, both of them being very much about helping others. I've read the descriptions of Venus conjunct Descendant and ruler of the 1st in the 7th - both are absolutely spot-on about my life.

If this counts, too, I have Venus conjunct Juno, which is a marriage asteroid.

Jupiter parallel MC (conjunct natally).

Saturn, Uranus and Neptune contraparallel MC, all three of them oppose my MC natally. Saturn and Neptune also all parallel each other, like their natal conjunction.

Uranus contraparallel Jupiter, natally they oppose each other tightly.

My MC/IC also have the highest declination. Public-private is a big thing in my life too.

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I'm so cappy
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posted December 06, 2013 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm totally new to this so I would appreciate your insight.

I have (max orb: 1)
Sun parallel Neptune
Sun contra-parallel Mars
Moon parallel Amor
Mercury parallel Venus
Mercury parallel Saturn (34 sec)
Mercury parallel Neptune
Venus parallel Saturn
Jupiter contra-parallel Pallas
Saturn parallel Neptune
NN parallel Venus (34 sec)
NN parallel Mercury
NN parallel Saturn


Uranus has the highest declination and Pluto has the lowest declination, if that's important.

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posted December 06, 2013 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tgem:
I'm confused as to how parallels act in the natal...what is the importance of them? Do they act like strong conjunctions? I'm kind of confused...
I have sun parallel moon
Sun parallel mars
Moon parallel Saturn
Venus parallel jupiter
Venus and jupiter parallel ASC which 1st house is also my highest declination. 2nd house cusp and 8th house cusp are parallel the ASC.



Parallel is read as a Conjunction.
Contra-Parallel an Opposition.

It's all a Matter of Balance.

(Are the Scales Up, or are the Scales Down?)

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posted December 06, 2013 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun-Venus parallel

Mars-Pluto parallel

Moon-Jupiter contra

I have absolutely ZERO clue what this means

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posted December 06, 2013 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Parallels. Read them as Conjunctions.

It just means that they were on the same level when you were born, like the East and West Horizon.

Contra-Parallel means they were exactly opposite that similar balance (one was up and one was down.)

Read that as Opposition.

I think Jessica is asking how they enhance your Natal Planets.

A very good question...

Kind of like when you have Planets in Mutual Reception, and they aspect one another. It emphasizes and strengthens the impact of these Planets.

There are so many little clues that one has to follow up on to truly figure out one's chart...

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posted December 06, 2013 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HOLY MOLY CHEESE BALLS!!! I just read about Moon-Jupiter opposition (I have the contra) and that is me to 10000%!! Completely black and white!! I travel extensively or hole up at home. I feast or fast. I spend or spend nothing. I drink or drink nothing. I have sex or no sex. Huh! wow How peculiar

And Mars conjunct Pluto.....I feel like I just found myself with all this. Makes me a bit teary eyed

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posted December 06, 2013 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What makes sense to me is
Sun parallel Neptune (I have a conjunction though)
Mercury parallel Neptune
Venus parallel Saturn (conjunction)
Saturn parallel Neptune
NN parallel Venus (conjunction)
NN parallel Mercury
NN parallel Saturn (conjunction)

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posted December 06, 2013 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pvorb:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doreen:
[b]Does parallel mean in the same sign but not conjunct

No. Once you generate your chart in astro.com. Click on the additional tables (pdf) option. You'll see a declination column next to the positions of planets. If 2 planets are within 1 degree of each other, it's a parallel. But it has to be both N or both S. If one is N and the other S, it's contraparallel.[/B][/QUOTE]
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posted December 06, 2013 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, yeah. I forgot, I also have Chiron parallel my 11th house cusp and I did always wonder why I didn't have Chiron or Saturn in the 11th, the descriptions hit close to home.

Mercury parallel 12th house cusp --> I have it in the 12th too.

Thanks for the reminder, Cappy.
For asteroids and such:
- Mercury parallel Vertex
- Mars parallel Nessus -- also my 7th house ruler, sadly, yes. I relate.
- Same with Neptune parallel Dejanira.
- Pluto parallel Pallas
- BML parallel NN and PoF
- Moon and Uranus parallel Vesta (natally Uranus and Vesta conjunct too).

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I've never really understood parallels/contra-parallels very well or looked into mine, but it's interesting and I guess I have a lot of them.. It's actually easier to just write out the planets and their declinations lol

Sun: 21°46'17" S
Moon: 25°32'29" S
Mercury: 21°30'30" S
Venus: 19°35'50" S
Mars: 22° 8'22" N
Jupiter: 18°13' 2" N
Saturn: 20°55'23" S
Uranus: 23°21'19" S
Neptune: 21°51'54" S
Pluto: 3°13'34" S
NN: 20°27' 7" S
Vertex: 20°47' 5" S
ASC: 22°26' 7" N
MC: 2°50'59" S

So idk where to even start lol. Some of it is mirrored in my natal but definitely not everything...

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posted December 06, 2013 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShineYourLight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh wow I have Moon 21°32'12" S parallel Neptune 21°28'18" S (it's the closest parallel in my chart) & never really payed much attention to it since I had no clue how to interpret it but I just started reading some descriptions of Moon conjunct Neptune & they blew my mind!! I don't think I ever related to a description so much, everything makes sense now lol!

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posted December 06, 2013 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireMoon:
I've never really understood parallels/contra-parallels very well or looked into mine, but it's interesting and I guess I have a lot of them.. It's actually easier to just write out the planets and their declinations lol

Sun: 21°46'17" S
Moon: 25°32'29" S
Mercury: 21°30'30" S
Venus: 19°35'50" S
Mars: 22° 8'22" N
Jupiter: 18°13' 2" N
Saturn: 20°55'23" S
Uranus: 23°21'19" S
Neptune: 21°51'54" S
Pluto: 3°13'34" S
NN: 20°27' 7" S
Vertex: 20°47' 5" S
ASC: 22°26' 7" N
MC: 2°50'59" S

So idk where to even start lol. Some of it is mirrored in my natal but definitely not everything...


It makes it much more comprehensible if you look at an aspect grid and balance them.

That way you can see the Planets Aspected and take into account the nature of the declination reading.

You know what the Symbols look like?

ll, sort of?

And the two parallel lines crossed for the Contra?

You see it on the graph, in the corner or something.

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posted December 06, 2013 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love parallels and contras. There's an incredibly 'hidden' almost subconscious story there. They link so much you'd miss at first glance. Great depth.

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posted December 06, 2013 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Do you have parallel or contra-parallel planets? How many?

What are the actual aspects that these planets make in your chart?

Do they surprise you at times? by the way they manifest themselves in your life?


Yes, under 1 orb I have 12.

Sun parallel Jupiter
Sun contra-parallel Saturn and Neptune
Mercury contra-parallel North Node
Venus parallel Jupiter
Venus contra-parallel Saturn
Venus contra-parallel Uranus
Venus contra-parallel Neptune
Jupiter Parallel Neptune
Jupiter contra-parallel Saturn
Pluto parallel Juno
Mercury parallel Asc

In my actual chart
Sun conj Jupiter
Sun/Jupiter opp Saturn
Mercury opp North Node
Venus opp Uranus but Venus doesn't aspect the other outer planets at least no major aspects.

Yes they do manifest themselves which explains a lot of my pull and tug towards general Venusian things.
edit I didn't include a few.

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posted December 06, 2013 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Love parallels and contras. There's an incredibly 'hidden' almost subconscious story there. They link so much you'd miss at first glance. Great depth.

Depth, indeed.

Like Water; seeking it's own level, ha.

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I find mine interesting.

Asc, Sun, moon, mercury, parallel Venus

Asc, sun, moon, mercury, Venus contraparallel Neptune-Uranus

I'd say it sums up my life.
High art.

I feel the parallel is what I know (inborn) and the contraparallel is what I'm striving for.
Personally I take my parallels-conjunctions for granted.
I don't want or need to be Venusian. It's just apart of who I am, being surrounded by paintings and art growing up.
It kinda bores me now.
I'm more fascinated by Uranus and Neptune.

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posted December 06, 2013 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonlightx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun parallel Mars | Natal: Sun semi-sextile Mars
Sun contraparallel Jupiter
Sun parallel Saturn | Natal: Sun conjunct Saturn
Sun parallel Uranus
Sun parallel Neptune | Natal: Sun conjunct Neptune
Venus parallel North Node
Venus contraparallel Chiron
Mars contraparallel Jupiter
Mars parallel Saturn | Natal: Mars semi-sextile Saturn
Mars parallel Uranus
Mars parallel Neptune | Natal: Mars semi-sextile Neptune
Jupiter contraparallel Saturn
Jupiter contraparallel Uranus | Natal: Jupiter opposite Uranus
Jupiter contraparallel Neptune | Natal: Jupiter opposite Neptune
Saturn parallel Uranus
Saturn parallel Neptune | Natal: Saturn conjunct Neptune
Uranus parallel Neptune | Natal: Uranus conjunct Neptune

I have so many!

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