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Jessica2407
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posted December 06, 2013 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have parallel or contra-parallel planets? How many?

What are the actual aspects that these planets make in your chart?

Do they surprise you at times? by the way they manifest themselves in your life?

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somethingexcellent
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posted December 06, 2013 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah sh#t I can't remember if I have a contraparallel or not. Ugh!

But I do have Venus/Jupiter parallel. They don't form an aspect! I definitely feel the affects in a subtle way. Like, my Venus acts in Jovian ways and my Jupiter has Venusian ways to it, but they aren't directly affected by one another, ya feel? It's like they blended a little then went their own ways.

Uranus and Neptune are parallel too but they are conjunct any ways, so I don't know what to make of that.

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Kerosene
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posted December 06, 2013 01:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been curious about these too.
I hear they intensify classical aspects

Sun contraparallel neptune/uranus
Mercury contraparallel Uranus
Uranus and neptune do not aspect my sun!

I have not really given it much thought but i suppose I do have stereotypical Uranian and Neptunian qualities.
I noticed with Sun-neptune which is an exact declination people project on me often and I do have escapism tendencies.

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Sun opposite Neptune creates a dynamic and creative push-pull which drives them to achieve imaginative excellence. They have an ethereal, other worldly aura which attracts people to project their dreams onto them. They wear it well and make good clothes-horses for partners to wrap their fantasies around. They are prime candidates for projection.

^ Yes, exactly this.

Moon parallel venus
moon conjunct venus

Venus parallel asc
Venus conjunct asc

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Jessica2407
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posted December 06, 2013 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Great guys!

okay could you find out which house cusp has the highest declination OR which house cusps are parallel and relate it back to your parallel planets?

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Jessica2407
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posted December 06, 2013 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Ah sh#t I can't remember if I have a contraparallel or not. Ugh!

But I do have Venus/Jupiter parallel. They don't form an aspect! I definitely feel the affects in a subtle way. Like, my Venus acts in Jovian ways and my Jupiter has Venusian ways to it, but they aren't directly affected by one another, ya feel? It's like they blended a little then went their own ways.

Uranus and Neptune are parallel too but they are conjunct any ways, so I don't know what to make of that.


Modern astrologers claim they are mild conjunctions, while the ancient gurus say they are powerful conjunctions. If your uranus and neptune is already conjunct a parallel would strengthen the aspect more so.

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posted December 06, 2013 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun parallel Venus
Sun just out of orb for parallel Mercury (1°16)
Mercury parallel Venus
(Mercury and Venus are out of bounds, too).

Sun is exactly conjunct Mercury.
The other two`s are out of orb for a conjunction (10 and 11 degrees)

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Moon parallel uranus
Moon parallel Juno
Moon contraparallel Pluto
Uranus contraparallel Pluto


no aspects, though some might consider the Moon - Pluto trine (8°02)

Interestingly Moon is unaspected (apart from the quinkunx to Saturn, but that is not a Ptolemaic aspect)

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Mars parlalel Neptune
Mars contraparallel Saturn

Mars is also conjunct Neptune

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Jupiter contraparlalel Chiron


BTW I did not check the angles and nodal axis, there are some parallels as well

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posted December 06, 2013 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
kerosene, just noticed you said you have venus parallel your asc.I think it's quite fitting that you have venus parallel asc! Do you have any other parallels on your asc?

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posted December 06, 2013 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 2nd- 8th house axis has the highest declination (22°52)

it is parallel/ contraparallel

Sun: 23.23 S
saturn: 21.56 N

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posted December 06, 2013 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow Ceri! 2 OOB planets that are parallel!

how do you feel it?

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Kerosene
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posted December 06, 2013 01:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
^Great guys!

okay could you find out which house cusp has the highest declination OR which house cusps are parallel and relate it back to your parallel planets?


interesting notion.
6th and 12th house cusp are the highest in declinations.
12th house cusp parallel sun o_o..
12th house ruler conjuncts sun too...

Jess are declinations used in vedic?
Sun and mercury also parallel asc.

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posted December 06, 2013 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Yes they are.

I've been studying this umm thing like crazy

I think the house cusps that are parallel to either the ASC,DSC,and the MC are very important to the native, well also the house cusps that are of the highest declination.

In Vedic, the planet that has the highest degrees is the atmakaraka,most of the charts I have studied the atmakaraka is related to the cusps that are of the highest declination.

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posted December 06, 2013 01:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me too, kinda..
Ever since I heard about them like months ago I was like checking declinations of people I know.

Should dump all your findings in this thread, I'd like to learn more!
Not too much info online.
Are declinations called something specific in vedic?

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Jessica2407
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posted December 06, 2013 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Have you heard of the 'graha yuddha' in vedic?

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posted December 06, 2013 01:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uh ..........*googles*
Yes I heard of the concept 'planetary war'
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Brihad Samhita says that when two planets appear to have a single orb on account of overlapping they fight in Bheda (occultation), the orb nearer to us on earth completely obstructing the farther one.

Ohhh I see, so they do use declinations.

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posted December 06, 2013 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some use the highest declination while some use the planets of the lowest declination.

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Jessica2407
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posted December 06, 2013 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have sun,mercury,venus,saturn,Jupiter parallel. Jupiter is my atmakaraka also holding the highest declination.

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posted December 06, 2013 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pvorb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. I have

Mars parallel Chiron

Moon contraparallel Mars
Moon square Mars

Venus contraparallel Saturn
Venus opposite Saturn
Venus parallel Jupiter
Venus conjunct Jupiter
Jupiter contraparallel Saturn
Jupiter opposite Saturn
Jupiter parallel ASC
Jupiter sextile ASC

Venus contraparallel Neptune
Saturn parallel Neptune

Uranus parallel Neptune
Uranus conjunct Neptune

I definitely feel that the parallels intensify the effects of the aspects, particularly my sextile to ASC and conjunction to Venus from Jupiter that are kinda wide. I identify with the descriptions I have found pretty strongly. For the contraparallels hmm the Venus-Saturn opposition figures pretty strongly in my chart, but it's also tight and with Chiron participating too. I find the descriptions of Jupiter opposite Saturn to resonate with me(that one is at 7 degrees). Moon-Mars well my emotions are all over the place but my Moon is heavily afflicted so it could very well be just that. I'm not confident to make any assessments.


And, and - I saved the best for last. My Atmakaraka, Uranus, which btw is out of bounds, is parallel my 8th house cusp and contraparallel my 2nd house cusp. Them house cusps having the highest declination among house cusps. Bonus Uranus being in the 8th house itself. Good going there Jess! Ahh, why is information on Vedic so scarce on the internet, why.

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posted December 06, 2013 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does parallel mean in the same sign but not conjunct

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posted December 06, 2013 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pvorb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doreen:
Does parallel mean in the same sign but not conjunct
No. Once you generate your chart in astro.com. Click on the additional tables (pdf) option. You'll see a declination column next to the positions of planets. If 2 planets are within 1 degree of each other, it's a parallel. But it has to be both N or both S. If one is N and the other S, it's contraparallel.

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posted December 06, 2013 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pvorb:
No. Once you generate your chart in astro.com. Click on the additional tables (pdf) option. You'll see a declination column next to the positions of planets. If 2 planets are within 1 degree of each other, it's a parallel. But it has to be both N or both S. If one is N and the other S, it's contraparallel.

thank you. that was useful.

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posted December 06, 2013 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pvorb:
Interesting. I have

Mars parallel Chiron

Moon contraparallel Mars
Moon square Mars

Venus contraparallel Saturn
Venus opposite Saturn
Venus parallel Jupiter
Venus conjunct Jupiter
Jupiter contraparallel Saturn
Jupiter opposite Saturn
Jupiter parallel ASC
Jupiter sextile ASC

Venus contraparallel Neptune
Saturn parallel Neptune

Uranus parallel Neptune
Uranus conjunct Neptune

I definitely feel that the parallels intensify the effects of the aspects, particularly my sextile to ASC and conjunction to Venus from Jupiter that are kinda wide. I identify with the descriptions I have found pretty strongly. For the contraparallels hmm the Venus-Saturn opposition figures pretty strongly in my chart, but it's also tight and with Chiron participating too. I find the descriptions of Jupiter opposite Saturn to resonate with me(that one is at 7 degrees). Moon-Mars well my emotions are all over the place but my Moon is heavily afflicted so it could very well be just that. I'm not confident to make any assessments.


And, and - I saved the best for last. My Atmakaraka, Uranus, which btw is out of bounds, is parallel my 8th house cusp and contraparallel my 2nd house cusp. Them house cusps having the highest declination among house cusps. Bonus Uranus being in the 8th house itself. Good going there Jess! Ahh, why is information on Vedic so scarce on the internet, why.


Thank you for posting!

which planet is the dispositor of uranus and what is it doing in your chart?

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posted December 06, 2013 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pvorb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn. Other than the ones I listed, it trines my Mars and eh, sextiles Pluto (5 degrees). It is the main dispositor in my chart, the only planets it doesn't disposit are the ones that are in domicile themselves.
EDIT: Oh, it's in the 9th house too.

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posted December 06, 2013 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your 8th house is Capricorn?

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posted December 06, 2013 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pvorb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 8th house cusp is Sagittarius. My 9th house cusp is Capricorn.

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posted December 06, 2013 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you think Uranus affects the activities of your 2nd house?

What is the planet with the 2nd highest degree in your chart?

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