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Mercurian Intellect
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posted December 10, 2013 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
The rooster seems more Leo to me lol.
The lion is much stronger but they do share some commonalities. Virgo is not rooster like at all, being a modest sign that's not particularly showy.

Yeah, I was going to say Leo/Virgo like, but I didn't feel like editing my post, lol.

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posted December 10, 2013 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah, I was going to say Leo/Virgo like, but I didn't feel like editing my post, lol.

I can see why Lion and Rooster are so different, yet they are so similar in certain ways. The biggest difference by far the Lion is much stronger and better at getting what it wants. Roosters are light as a feather, known for making a lot of noise and doing very little. Lions are not like this.

The Lion and Rooster both have the finery on the outside and make a lot of noise, just Lion follows up with swift, powerful action and is much more fierce.

This is how I would correlate them:


Dragon - Libra
snake - Scorpio
horse - Sagittarius
sheep - Aries
monkey - Gemini
rooster - Leo
dog - Aquarius
boar - Cancer
rat - Capricorn
ox - Taurus
tiger - Pisces
rabbit - Virgo

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posted December 10, 2013 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I so agree

And that's true about your hour sign being tiger, MsPrism! Hmmm..what are ur other pillars?


Haha, we're both totally crushing on Kero.

My Day is the Dog, isn't that the Dragon's arch enemy?

My Month is the Snake.

What else signifies the look of a Goat? That's your Hour right?

@Kero:

You mean comparing the synastry of one person's pillars with your own? I have done that a little bit but unfortunately I wasn't into astrology in most of my relationships so I don't have much info to go on.

I'm also confused about how the elements interact because the list for year gives me Earth/Dragon/Earth/Wood/Water.

The Chinese/Tropical zodiac list you just made is funny.

Dragon is Aries which is my ascendant and my Mars sits in Aquarius and Tiger is my hour sign. YES! It's all making sense now. Hah

Have you done much chinese pillar synastry at all? What about you RAS?

I checked my Chinese/Tropical interpretation and it basically says that I'm a big a-hole!

Yours calls you adorable, flexible, innovative. WTF! omg I'm jealous...AGAIN!

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posted December 10, 2013 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I can see why Lion and Rooster are so different, yet they are so similar in certain ways. The biggest difference by far the Lion is much stronger and better at getting what it wants. Roosters are light as a feather, known for making a lot of noise and doing very little. Lions are not like this.

The Lion and Rooster both have the finery on the outside and make a lot of noise, just Lion follows up with swift, powerful action and is much more fierce.

This is how I would correlate them:


Dragon - Libra
snake - Scorpio
horse - Sagittarius
sheep - Aries
monkey - Gemini
rooster - Leo
dog - Aquarius
boar - Cancer
rat - Capricorn
ox - Taurus
tiger - Pisces
rabbit - Virgo


Nice list
Makes sense

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posted December 10, 2013 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Nice list

Thank you

Some of them I am having second thoughts about, like Capricorn and Aqua. Not sure if I agree, but I ran out of signs :/
All the others I am comfortable with.

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posted December 10, 2013 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Thank you

Some of them I am having second thoughts about, like Capricorn and Aqua. Not sure if I agree, but I ran out of signs :/
All the others I am comfortable with.


Yeah.
Well they can't all fit perfectly, right?

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posted December 10, 2013 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah.
Well they can't all fit perfectly, right?

If it were up to me, I would give Capricorn a goat and Aquarius a donkey.

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posted December 10, 2013 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Hello YTA!
How do you find out heavenly pillar, if you don't mind me asking?


I mis-spoke. It is called the luck pillar. These are 10-year periods in your life.

I use this site for my chart.
http://www.fengshui-village.com/en/bazi.php

As to interpretation, it's a whole different matter. It's up to the experts. It's highly fatalistic. I already know approx. what year I'm going to die.

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posted December 10, 2013 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
If it were up to me, I would give Capricorn a goat and Aquarius a donkey.

Yeah, I can see how Capricorn would be a goat, haha.
Aquarius is a donkey? Cool

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posted December 10, 2013 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MsPrism I'm not crushing on Kero haha. I have a good guy friend who also happened to be bi hahaha, like kero. And we were rly close but then we had a jupiter stellium in composite (jupiter=happiness) and great synastry (sun conjunct moon, moon trine asc, etc).

Um, yeah I did look at my compatibility with ppl based on our pillars btw. The best compatibility i e had in that so far was with my ex. All our signs were correspondingly either trine or sextile (and year was soulmate sign). I read from chinese astrologer ______ damn forgot his name, but i have him added on facebook, that the best match for anyone would be if all their pillars were the soulmate signs to your pillars

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posted December 10, 2013 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The order of my list was based on the natural order of the zodiac.. It is what it is

according to the Chinese zodiac the months also go in that order

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posted December 10, 2013 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh please you love me!

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posted December 10, 2013 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The order of my list was based on the natural order of the zodiac.. It is what it is

according to the Chinese zodiac the months also go in that order


It was something somebody made i think. It's not supposed to correlate exactly with the western zodiac at all. More like a very general estimation

For example snake is wise, suspicious and revengeful and gets infuriated with hypocrisy which fits scorpio, while pig is hedonistic, grouchy, more naive, an open book, doesnt lie, generally trusting which fits taurus more or even maybe cancer actually. But in that list pig is correlated with scorpio and snake with taurus.

Just because the ox is like capricorn and the rooster is like virgo doesnt mean the snake is really like a taurus at all.

Also in chinese astro books u will see monkey being referred to as "mercurial" over an over again. That's because they have they are like gemini and virgo whoa are ruled by mercury. Monkey is like gemini because it has a million hobbies and is good at all of them, is usually hyper, friendly, but eccentric and erratic, an "entertainer," but they are also like virgo because they analyze situations, they're deep, they arent superficial like gemini, they like perfection and are very critical of others secretly

Yes i know leo is correlated with monkey in these lists that u see lying around the internet but no chinese astrologer wrote those. You wont find a chinese astrologer posting that list. For example dragon or tiger are much more like a combination of leo and aries than monkey could ever be.

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posted December 10, 2013 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
MsPrism I'm not crushing on Kero haha. I have a good guy friend who also happened to be bi hahaha, like kero. And we were rly close but then we had a jupiter stellium in composite (jupiter=happiness) and great synastry (sun conjunct moon, moon trine asc, etc).

Um, yeah I did look at my compatibility with ppl based on our pillars btw. The best compatibility i e had in that so far was with my ex. All our signs were correspondingly either trine or sextile (and year was soulmate sign). I read from chinese astrologer ______ damn forgot his name, but i have him added on facebook, that the best match for anyone would be if all their pillars were the soulmate signs to your pillars


Haha I meant crushing like fawning over, my bad.

Oh, I'm so interested in the Sun/Moon. Who was the Sun, how did you feel it?

Ohh interesting, find that astrologer's name!!! So does it matter how they match up like hour of Rooster and year of Dragon or should it be year of Rooster, year of Dragon, etc?

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posted December 10, 2013 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah, I can see how Capricorn would be a goat, haha.
Aquarius is a donkey? Cool

In antiquity, donkeys carried a lot of water on each of their sides and they represent democratic ideas.

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posted December 10, 2013 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:

I mis-spoke. It is called the luck pillar. These are 10-year periods in your life.

I use this site for my chart.
http://www.fengshui-village.com/en/bazi.php

As to interpretation, it's a whole different matter. It's up to the experts. It's highly fatalistic. I already know approx. what year I'm going to die.



TY, YTA, I am looking at this now. Kinda complicated, hehe.

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posted December 10, 2013 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
It was something somebody made i think. It's not supposed to correlate exactly with the western zodiac at all. More like a very general estimation

For example snake is wise, suspicious and revengeful and gets infuriated with hypocrisy which fits scorpio, while pig is hedonistic, grouchy, more naive, an open book, doesnt lie, generally trusting which fits taurus more or even maybe cancer actually. But in that list pig is correlated with scorpio and snake with taurus.

Just because the ox is like capricorn and the rooster is like virgo doesnt mean the snake is really like a taurus at all.

Also in chinese astro books u will see monkey being referred to as "mercurial" over an over again. That's because they have they are like gemini and virgo whoa are ruled by mercury. Monkey is like gemini because it has a million hobbies and is good at all of them, is usually hyper, friendly, but eccentric and erratic, an "entertainer," but they are also like virgo because they analyze situations, they're deep, they arent superficial like gemini, they like perfection and are very critical of others secretly

Yes i know leo is correlated with monkey in these lists that u see lying around the internet but no chinese astrologer wrote those. You wont find a chinese astrologer posting that list. For example dragon or tiger are much more like a combination of leo and aries than monkey could ever be.


The Monkey is ruled by Venus, while the Pig is ruled by Mercury.

The Pig is more Venusian, while the Monkey is more Mercurian. I believe this is like this because in ancient times, Mercury was referred to as Venus, and Venus was referred to as Mercury.
Basically they were mixed up. Then the Chinese Zodiac just stuck with it I guess.

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posted December 10, 2013 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^if you think the pig is ruled by venus, you have a very erroneous idea of the pig rofl. Sorry had to say it.
I mean just the pig animal. Does it seem very venusian to you?

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posted December 10, 2013 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's gluttonous so I would think more Jupiter.

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posted December 10, 2013 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Haha I meant crushing like fawning over, my bad.

Oh, I'm so interested in the Sun/Moon. Who was the Sun, how did you feel it?

Ohh interesting, find that astrologer's name!!! So does it matter how they match up like hour of Rooster and year of Dragon or should it be year of Rooster, year of Dragon, etc?


Yes fawning is true!!!! Haha def both fawning over him

Um i will look it up. Im not sure about ur question! I think it was each same kind of pillar to each same kind of pillar. Its not like synastry in astrology hehe

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posted December 10, 2013 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^if you think the pig is ruled by venus, you have a very erroneous idea of the pig rofl. Sorry had to say it.
I mean just the pig animal. Does it seem very venusian to you?

Nah, it definitely makes sense that it's ruled by Venus.

It being ruled by Mercury is an erroneous idea for sure.

I would rather it be ruled by Mercury since I'm a Pig, but then I'd be lying to myself.

As I read about the Pig, Venus and it's qualities come to mind.

If I were wrong, that means the Pig is more Mercurian than the Monkey. And obviously, that's not the case.

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posted December 10, 2013 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pigs are thought of as really smart though, but not as smart as monkeys.

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posted December 10, 2013 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay i found him! His name is Bill Hajdu or William Hajdu --he used to own firepig.com but now he is the chinese astrologer for astrology.com

Maybe we can get him to come to lindaland and talk to us about chinese astro. I mean I do have added on facebook ))

Other good chinese astrologers are Master Rao -astrologizeme.com or asiaflash.com (use google translate)

Shelly wu

Suzanne white

And that lady from onlinechineseastrology.com

Also Master Tsai from chineseastrologyonline.com


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posted December 10, 2013 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That sounds awesome, RAS!

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posted December 10, 2013 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^hahaha i dunno! He might steal my chinese zodiac appearance guide and make a book!

Better not to

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