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Enneline
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posted December 09, 2013 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are there general dealbreakers in synastry?
Some say, a Grand cross is a dealbreaker, some say Venus opposite Saturn, some say that sun/moon/venus/mars have to match.

I personally don't think there are definitive dealbreakers but a Grand cross should be hard to overcome

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted December 09, 2013 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if there's a conjunction between Venus and Chiron? Or any major Chiron conjunctions? People tend to worry about Chiron.

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posted December 09, 2013 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strangely my observatíons and experiences are quite different.
If chiron squares venus -> not much emotional hurt
If chiron trines/sextiles venus = a lot of pain to endure

I have never seen a relationship with the conjunction/opposition

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posted December 09, 2013 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StrandedSaturn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me, anything related to Mars. If my Mars is Square theirs it's very hard for me to get along with them.

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posted December 10, 2013 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen so many pluto relationships through time, that I know enough about it to say that harsh pluto aspects to personal planets (especially sun,moon,venus and mars)
IS a deal breaker… the relationship gets to intense, obsessive and jealousy will arise and eventually the power struggle begins, which no one will be able to survive… the tragical thing about this is that people who are in a pluto relationship refuse to take good advice and the keep on believing that obsession is good in a relationship… I have had my pluto relationship and it was equally bad as everyone else's, and it's not worth my time to try that again….if I meet anyone with harsh pluto aspects I'm going a wide circle away from them!

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posted December 10, 2013 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course people always make a huge deal over planets in twelve.

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posted December 10, 2013 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have one thing to say: Dealbreakers are often DealMAKERS. Ask Saturn and Uranus.

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posted December 10, 2013 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dealbreakers in synastry depend on the natal

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posted December 10, 2013 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would never say anything in absolute terms when it comes to astrology, but...

Mars square Pluto in synastry or composite...I would have to be extremely cautious with this one...

Oh, and a Moon-Mars conjunction in the other's natal...

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posted December 10, 2013 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for me a dealbreaker (in a romance for people) is venus square mercury at a tight orb (4 or less); communication will be too hard all of the time and frequent misunderstandings. in love, you don't want that as often as it'll appear. for myself, and others it's very cautionary

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posted December 10, 2013 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was also thinking hard aspects between Mars or Mercury from almost any other planet.

Mars especially, I think, but Mercury at a close second.

Mars just creates too much irritation most of the time (although I have Mars opposite Mars with my dad, and we get along perfectly fine...but there are a lot of other good aspects in our charts), and the feeling that you have to be confrontational with each other.

Mercury just makes me want to slap people (and vice versa, I would assume).

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posted December 10, 2013 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But yes, really tough Pluto aspect should probably be avoided, like between Mars and Pluto. That can get pretty bad.

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posted December 10, 2013 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone experienced Mercury opp Pluto in synastry? the orb is 2 degrees, Im the Pluto person. Does it translate itself into debates/intellectual antagonism?

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posted December 10, 2013 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jjj:
Has anyone experienced Mercury opp Pluto in synastry? the orb is 2 degrees, Im the Pluto person. Does it translate itself into debates/intellectual antagonism?

Yes, I have this with my mom. It's hard to tell what causes what, because we have a number of hard aspects between Mercury and Mars with each other. But I don't think that Pluto opposite Mercury is helpful in any way, at least with us. We are definitely argumentative with each other, and can get really heated about stupid things. Not as much now, but that's a parent/child dynamic that probably mellows with age and physical distance. If we lived with each other it would probably be unpleasant.

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posted December 10, 2013 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I personally find hard to overcome: squares to my sun or moon rulers. I feel uncomfortable with that Person, no way that we ever could date

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posted December 10, 2013 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
What I personally find hard to overcome: squares to my sun or moon rulers. I feel uncomfortable with that Person, no way that we ever could date

That's a really good point. Mercury rules my Moon, so maybe that's why I have such an issue with hard Mercury aspects, whether I'm the Mercury or the other planet... Hm.

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posted December 10, 2013 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol none for me we have **** synastry. Saturn opposite Chiron by 2 minutes and Chiron square Pluto by a degree lollololol sun square sun moon square sun mercury square sun

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posted December 10, 2013 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Lol none for me we have **** synastry. Saturn opposite Chiron by 2 minutes and Chiron square Pluto by a degree lollololol sun square sun moon square sun mercury square sun

But my observations say that if there are many many tight squares to the personal planets or if the personal planets form a lot of tight squares to each other -> attraction near obsession

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posted December 10, 2013 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think so too. Plus you should add Venus conjunct mars that intensifies everything

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posted December 10, 2013 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirGuy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Their Saturn conjunct my Mars. Never again.

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posted December 10, 2013 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would definitely agree that Mars/Pluto aspects are harsh. I had an ex who's Mars (in my 7th house) sqaured my Pluto (in my 5th) and there were definitely power struggles in our relationship. It even became violent at one point. But I do think it depends on the natal aspects in how it will play out.

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posted December 10, 2013 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had one relationship with lots of squares to pluto and sun (both ways). I wasn't into Astrology back then.

Worst relationship that I could imagine.

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posted December 10, 2013 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VirGuy:
Their Saturn conjunct my Mars. Never again.

Why is that?

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posted December 11, 2013 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
dealbreakers in synastry depend on the natal

Yes!!!
Mine is Saturn in Leo, on my Leo stellium...
Bhurrrrrrrr

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posted December 11, 2013 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:
But yes, really tough Pluto aspect should probably be avoided, like between Mars and Pluto. That can get pretty bad.

So the 1° conjunction is something you'd avoid at all costs?

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