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Topic: which zodiac sign male is chauvinistic?
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theunknown
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posted December 19, 2013 03:26 PM
  
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msrandomorangee
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posted December 20, 2013 03:27 AM
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
A guy I dated had this *exact* birth chart! He is Scorpio Rising. So how is this guy you're dating? Strengths & weknesses? Let's compare notes. 
honestly, its just a bad experience :P strength :
1. hard working
2. loves his family
3. goal oriented weakness:
1. cold
2. stubborn
3. controlling
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DeepFreeze
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posted December 20, 2013 03:44 AM
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swampys
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posted December 20, 2013 03:52 AM
SAGITTARIUS!!!!!!MY DAD! IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted December 20, 2013 04:40 AM
First thought - TAURUS! lolI guess I'm not alone in mentioning that. Taurus Moon most of all.. but also Taurus Mars --- surprisingly not so much Taurus Suns. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted December 20, 2013 04:41 AM
oh lol Well Sagittarians can be sexist - but it's much easier to snap them out of it - than it is with Taureans.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted December 20, 2013 04:44 AM
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Originally posted by Odette:
First thought - TAURUS! lolI guess I'm not along in mentioning that. Taurus Moon most of all.. but also Taurus Mars --- surprisingly not so much Taurus Suns.
You really hate Taurus moons don't you?  IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted December 20, 2013 05:12 AM
Well...... The problem is - I am who I am and deep down that's not a 'work in progress'. Maybe it was in my teens... but not anymore.
Outer things can change - accessories, hair colour etc.. but I know who I am. That isn't changing.Unfortunately 'who' I am is at odds with who they want me to be.
Because Taurus Moon guys can be extra traditional and sometimes sexist - the role they see a woman playing in their life - is not always a role that suits me.
If they were more accepting of different personalities and they could just hang out and be friends... that would be cool. But usually they see me, find me physically attractive - and then either try their hardest to change me to suit their idea of the perfect woman... OR... they act mean & aggressive to show their disapproval over me not being what they want me to be. They act as though I am doing this intentionally to pi*ss them off.. as though the reason I am not acting like a 'good lil house wife' type - is a premeditated thing to annoy or hurt them... when actually it is not premeditated. I am simply being me.
But this ^^ is a foreign concept for Taurus. If you say to a Taurus - "But dude!! I am simply being myself. I am just not interested in being married, having kids and acting like a Stepford housewife" Their reaction is: "But all women want that! Everyone knows that. Obviously you're lying to further some feminist agenda - and in the process you are hurting me.." *facepalm* You are much too Aquarian to ever annoy me though! 
It's a similar thing because I have Aries/Capricorn squares --- and you have Aquarius/Taurus squares. The square challenges both sides - so you come up with something else entirely. IP: Logged |
milly
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posted December 20, 2013 05:24 AM
Hi... I usually perceive Taurus sun very chauvinistic. I am Gemini Sun, Pisces asc...we usually clash. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted December 20, 2013 05:27 AM
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Men regardless of signs are socialized to view women as objects and house wives because we live in a sexist world.
The extent to which this is happening is changing from generation to generation. I think it is 'Ok' for me to have the expectation that men around my age were only socialised in this manner to *some* -- "reasonable" -- degree. I guess you could say... in my mind there is.. explicable and inexplicable (bewildering) sexism. Explicable sexism would involve things you might expect from a 20-something year old in today's Western society.
Inexplicable sexism would involve hearing things from this 20-something year old - that you would've heard from a person his age in the 1920s. Because it would be unusual for him to have been socialised - like a person born in the 1920s... when he was born in 1988. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted December 20, 2013 08:30 AM
I'm gonna have to go with Taurus, though they can still respect women who see them as more or less equal...they just have their respective places in the natural order is all which isn't necessarily hierarchical in nature. That said, one of my favorite quips LG had of a conversation between a Taurus man & Sag woman in Love Signs: SAG: Why don't you want me to march in the ecology protest parade? We only have ten years left on this planet if somebody doesn't do something right away. Do you want to suffocate in ten years because there's no more oxygen left in the air, because the plankton that makes the oxygen, which grows in the ocean, is gone--because of pollution of the water, caused by greedy industrialists like you? The BULL: I am not a greedy industrialist. I own a small Orange Julius stand. And I don't care which Chinese Communist-inspired "cause" you march for on your own time, but I just got home from work, and I haven't been fed. I'm hungry. Stifle yourself, and feed me. (And from there it just gets so much worse for The BULL ) IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted December 20, 2013 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by msrandomorangee:
1. chauvinistic - How about doesn't like his wife to work? and loves the idea of a house wife?2. loves making money 3. traditional
Present. You are dealing with a perfect example here.
Capricorn. Traditional. Conservative. Ambitious. Over-achieving. Provider. Breadwinner. IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86
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posted December 20, 2013 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by msrandomorangee:
honestly, its just a bad experience :Pstrength :
1. hard working
2. loves his family
3. goal oriented weakness:
1. cold
2. stubborn
3. controlling
My guy was hard-working & wanted a family of his OWN soooo baaadly! But he sucked at setting goals & following through on them. He had a giant fear of failure. He could definitely be cold...when he was just so warm not long before that! Drove me F'N crazy and I had to cut 'em loose. He was super charmimg and everything. But he was far too inconsistent for me to move forward. IP: Logged |
summerlite
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posted December 20, 2013 09:54 AM
He sounds more like a Capricorn based on your description.IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86
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posted December 20, 2013 09:57 AM
To answer the OP -- Cap males can be chauvinstic...and very cheap too. BY NO MEANS am I saying that all/most of them are this way!! Some of them are though. Some Leo males can surely be sexist & domineering. Scorpios - if insecure - can be really controlling, sexist lunatics. I've known chauvinist men from almost every sign though. IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86
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posted December 20, 2013 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by summerlite:
He sounds more like a Capricorn based on your description.
He only had Jupiter in Capricorn. He was also ex-military. IP: Logged |
summerlite
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posted December 20, 2013 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
He only had Jupiter in Capricorn. He was also ex-military.
i mean msrandomorangee's description. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted December 20, 2013 01:30 PM
What exactly is so wrong with providing for the family anyway?Why is it chauvanistic if a man wants to allow his wife the option of not working, if they can afford it? Next, what is so wrong about "making money?" IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86
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posted December 20, 2013 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by summerlite:
He sounds more like a Capricorn based on your description.
We're both talking about guys with the exact same chart. IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86
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posted December 20, 2013 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
What exactly is so wrong with providing for the family anyway?Why is it chauvanistic if a man wants to allow his wife the option of not working, if they can afford it? Next, what is so wrong about "making money?"
I personally don't see any of that as chauvinist.
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted December 20, 2013 01:43 PM
Please define "traditional." Pretty wife, children, house, dog/cat. Is that traditional? Or.... I'm sticking my neck out... a man without an "alternative" lifestyle?Or are we talking about orthodox religious and politically conservative viewpoints? Somebody mentioned "cheap." Please define "cheap." Where is the demarcation between rational/frugal and being "cheap?" IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted December 20, 2013 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
Well...... The problem is - I am who I am and deep down that's not a 'work in progress'. Maybe it was in my teens... but not anymore.
Outer things can change - accessories, hair colour etc.. but I know who I am. That isn't changing.Unfortunately 'who' I am is at odds with who they want me to be.
Because Taurus Moon guys can be extra traditional and sometimes sexist - the role they see a woman playing in their life - is not always a role that suits me.
If they were more accepting of different personalities and they could just hang out and be friends... that would be cool. But usually they see me, find me physically attractive - and then either try their hardest to change me to suit their idea of the perfect woman... OR... they act mean & aggressive to show their disapproval over me not being what they want me to be. They act as though I am doing this intentionally to pi*ss them off.. as though the reason I am not acting like a 'good lil house wife' type - is a premeditated thing to annoy or hurt them... when actually it is not premeditated. I am simply being me.
But this ^^ is a foreign concept for Taurus. If you say to a Taurus - "But dude!! I am simply being myself. I am just not interested in being married, having kids and acting like a Stepford housewife" Their reaction is: "But all women want that! Everyone knows that. Obviously you're lying to further some feminist agenda - and in the process you are hurting me.." *facepalm* You are much too Aquarian to ever annoy me though!
It's a similar thing because I have Aries/Capricorn squares --- and you have Aquarius/Taurus squares. The square challenges both sides - so you come up with something else entirely.
Never say never Odette. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted December 20, 2013 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by msrandomorangee:
1. chauvinistic
2. loves making money
3. traditional
Plenty of women go for this type. Others don't. I don't see anything wrong with it as long as it's not imposed on the unwilling, it's more of a matter of taste. Likewise, if a man can find happiness in slavery to a bossy, domineering dominatrix who thinks all men are little boys and should be treated accordingly then more power to them as long as they're both happy and don't try to force society to conform to their standards. Just saying as a couple seem to feel defensive over this. IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86
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posted December 20, 2013 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Somebody mentioned "cheap." Please define "cheap." Where is the demarcation between rational/frugal and being "cheap?"
It was me. What do I mean? Guys who complain about buying their own drinks on dates. Or guys who invite a woman out on a date but are to cheap to buy her a drink. Absurd.
As I stated before, I'm in no way saying that ALL Cap males act this way.
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aquaguy91
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posted December 20, 2013 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
It was me. What do I mean? Guys who complain about buying their own drinks on dates. Or guys who invite a woman out on a date but are to cheap to buy her a drink. Absurd.
As I stated before, I'm in no way saying that ALL Cap males act this way.
But wait just a minute..... Isn't a traditional man a chauvinist? But a man who wants to treat a woman as his equal and go Dutch is cheap? Sounds like we (men ) are damned if we do and damned if we don't. If you want my honest opinion on the matter I think all dating should be Dutch. Especially when you consider most women work now and earn as much as men. So why should men pay for everything? I took my lady out for a dinner and a movie and spent over 60 dollars, that's a lot of money! Of course there's nothing I can really do about it because 99% of women feel entitled to this sort of thing and any man who doesn't do it gladly is an azzhat. I wish more men had the guts to rebel against this outdated setup. IP: Logged |
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