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Topic: Mean kids
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Kerosene
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From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 23, 2013 02:14 PM
  
Aspects placements. synastry idk?
You always hear about how mean everyones parents are but what about kids..?
Well I'm not really "mean" to my parents but they can tell I'm usually frustrated with them.. grinding my teeth and a whole ton of attitude.
I can't be around them for too long, only small doses.
I actually I was told I'm much more nice than I was 4 years ago when I was living my parents  . I was usually frustrated most of the time.
Again I think they are good parents but I don't my personality is family oriented if that makes sense. I mean with parents they kind do what they want obviously.. and you can't really say anything....
I much prefer being around friends over family atleast I can choose people that least annoy you.It's Christmas time and I swear I'm slowly going mad.
Like my dad leaves food open until it gets stale.
my moms car has a pungent odor of cigarettes..
So many other things that reminds me of my frustrated adolescence... Oh so tempting...
 I actually have no idea... but if there is an indication of cold distant parents there must be for children too?
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DeepFreeze
Knowflake Posts: 620
From: Pluto
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 23, 2013 02:17 PM
The first thing that I thought of was Uranus/Mars. (???)I can't stand kids who disrespect their parents. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 23, 2013 02:18 PM
I was like that, somewhat, only I never hit anyone. I yelled and talked back a lot. I was rebellious. I resented my mother telling me what to do.
Uranus conjunct ascendant and Mercury in Libra with afflicted Sagittarius Mars in third house. This Mars prefers yelling and talking to any physical contact. IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86
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From: OH, USA
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 23, 2013 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Oh so tempting...
 Wow. We've all been there - wanting to do that haha. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
Knowflake Posts: 620
From: Pluto
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 23, 2013 02:20 PM
I should say that it doesn't need to be like a Military. Kids need to be heard, but name calling or getting physical is crossing the line. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
Knowflake Posts: 620
From: Pluto
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 23, 2013 02:22 PM
Oh s**t.... I'm going to duck out of here actually. This is going to turn into this HUGE, ugly debate (even a fight) about parenting.
I bet you!! Start your stopwatches!! IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 509
From: The Strand
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 23, 2013 02:22 PM
That video is horrific, fat little kid needs to be noosed and half hanged.It's very hard to be a parent. I've come on here and complained about my parents but it's very much a learning experience for the parent. Easily the hardest job in the world. You'd maybe have to look at the parents' chart for hard kids. Look for maybe Mars or Saturn in the 5th or even an afflicted 5th house ruler. As for kids themselves, often easy charts (lots of trines etc) can indicate an unpleasantness due to laziness and knowing they can get away with it. I've had "Bad Kids" by Gaga going through me head now. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 7842
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 23, 2013 02:22 PM
Omg this thread isn't about bratty american kids...This is about people who dislike being around their parents..
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 23, 2013 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Oh s**t.... I'm going to duck out of here actually. This is going to turn into this HUGE, ugly debate (even a fight) about parenting.
I bet you!! Start your stopwatches!!
Let's just keep things astrological, okay? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 23, 2013 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by 23:
That video is horrific, fat little kid needs to be noosed and half hanged.It's very hard to be a parent. I've come on here and complained about my parents but it's very much a learning experience for the parent. Easily the hardest job in the world. You'd maybe have to look at the parents' chart for hard kids. Look for maybe Mars or Saturn in the 5th or even an afflicted 5th house ruler. As for kids themselves, often easy charts (lots of trines etc) can indicate an unpleasantness due to laziness and knowing they can get away with it. I've had "Bad Kids" by Gaga going through me head now.
Excuse me...have you ever been a kid? Are you saying you have never felt that way one time while you were young? Keep in mind it's not always about hitting but I think all of us can remember feeling that way at least ONCE as a child. Please remove the thorn from your own eye before judging others, 'k? IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 509
From: The Strand
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 23, 2013 02:25 PM
Kerosene - a lot of it is not astro based, it is often just caused with familiarity breeding contempt and age differences. With time, most people mend their bridges with parents and then eventually can understand why parents did what they did when the kids were younger.IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 509
From: The Strand
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 23, 2013 02:28 PM
Yeah I kicked my mum once, she hit me back and I deserved it. I used to fantasise about killing my mum too but when you grow up, you realise that your parents were right about a lot of things and you were wrong. Just wrong to hit a parent or even a kid most times, look at the hurt on her face. And now as a parent that wipes two bum a day, watching this is incredibly PAINFUL for me.IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 23, 2013 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by 23:
Yeah I kicked my mum once, she hit me back and I deserved it. I used to fantasise about killing my mum too but when you grow up, you realise that your parents were right about a lot of things and you were wrong. Just wrong to hit a parent or even a kid most times, look at the hurt on her face. And now as a parent that wipes two bum a day, watching this is incredibly PAINFUL for me.
Yes I agree it's wrong to hit. This kid needs boxing lessons or something to get the aggression safely out of his system.
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Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 7842
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 23, 2013 02:31 PM
LOL if you read my post it is not that complex.
it's not the age difference etc.
The things is..they are humans and can possess really annoying traits.My personality is not very patient but I try not to explode on them.. Oh I would never hit my parents... that would be the end of me 0____0
I think the only reason he hit her is because she spares the rod and spoils the child lol. IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 509
From: The Strand
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 23, 2013 02:33 PM
As a child, you are very impatient, demand a lot for yourself and don't think about the consequences of your actions on others or on yourself even. It's the impatience and hormones that kicks in. I just think about the things that I wanted to do and what I believed in then, I had rocks in my head. Parent is Saturn, what is the child? Mars, Uranus, Jupiter? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 6493
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 23, 2013 02:33 PM
Yeah same here, lol. If I would have hit my mom I would have probably gotten my head knocked off and be dead now so I never had the nerve to hit. I did talk back though and ran before I got slapped, lol. I usually ran and hid for a while, until things cooled down. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
Knowflake Posts: 620
From: Pluto
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 23, 2013 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Let's just keep things astrological, okay?
Good luck!
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Knowflake Posts: 509
From: The Strand
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 23, 2013 02:36 PM
Well then it is impatience then, you do have Mars in Aries right? I've seen that come out a lot with you here. Probably have your own very pointed agenda and it doesn't fit in with what a family wants, which is a collective of people and functions/ideas.Kid was probably spoilt as you say which means mum really should put him in his place. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 7842
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 23, 2013 02:39 PM
We can flip this around and say there are tons of people who never should have kids...because they are absolute **** parents..
So yeah you have bratty kids and abusive parents. what else is new...Going on topic 4th house house for the child?
So 5th house for the parents. My dad has saturn in the 5th and I tend to be more colder towards him. Not very affectionate etc.
However his saturn is opp my sun.. So that could be it too. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 23, 2013 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Good luck!
The idea of this thread...why is that kid so aggressive and rebellious? Mars, Uranus, Pluto? Would an afflicted Jupiter indicate a certain reckless boldness? Why not figure it out without the judgments. Most people know this behavior is not proper. Who needs to be reminded? I think having that conjunction on my ascendant with Jupiter and Uranus gave me a lot of nerve verbally. I did have a smart mouth and got slapped a lot. IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 509
From: The Strand
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 23, 2013 02:42 PM
Yes, 4th in kids' chart to describe parents and 5th in parents' chart to describe kids. And voila, dad has Saturn in 5th and so you might not have much of a bond and are you are cold.Another example is that I have Saturn in 4th, my parents were conservative, old and old fashioned and a very hard on me sometimes. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 23, 2013 02:44 PM
The kid can be mean. The parent can be annoying or simply impossible. But when the hitting starts ( no matter if comes from the kid or the parent) GAME OVER. Yell, scream if you feel so but NEVER hit. The kid in the gif has sociopath ic tendencies.IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
Knowflake Posts: 620
From: Pluto
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 23, 2013 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
The idea of this thread...why is that kid so aggressive and rebellious? Mars, Uranus, Pluto? Would an afflicted Jupiter indicate a certain reckless boldness? Why not figure it out without the judgments. Most people know this behavior is not proper. Who needs to be reminded?
You've been on this forum longer than I have and you don't know it's tendencies? My mentioning is neither going to promote it or hinder it. It will happen. I have an Sun square Jupiter. Mars square moon. Pluto conjunct Asc. I was a little rebellious but it was nothing like that. It must be in the synastry. One of my sisters was like that but she has few hard aspects in natal.
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Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 7842
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 23, 2013 02:46 PM
If you saw that video.
He was just very angry with her because maybe she does not listen to him, maybe she neglects his feelings.
He even started crying too out of frustration.He is still a child..It's hard for children because they can always articulate their feelings.
It was unacceptable but it's probably her fault too. That is my psychological analysis of that video.
Assuming this was all real.. the way they react blaming the child made it seem fake to me...
Personally I think everything on that show is just entertainment.
Then again everyone blames it on the mental health of a child.. Psychologists get money that way.. Parents dump their broken children and get out scott free.
You know my cousin is having anger management problems and they are getting professional help.
Look at her family life her mom is abusive and cruel.. of course she's going to have anger problems..
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StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 6493
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 23, 2013 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
The kid can be mean. The parent can be annoying or simply impossible. But when the hitting starts ( no matter if comes from the kid or the parent) GAME OVER. Yell, scream if you feel so but NEVER hit. The kid in the gif has sociopath ic tendencies.
He's not a lost cause. He needs a way to channel his aggression and training so he knows what to do when overwhelmed. He doesn't get enough physical exercise. That helps a lot. IP: Logged |
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